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SteveRogers
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: Aero]
#22005526 - 07/27/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mike this thread makes me optimistic for the future of this place everytime I look at it.
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insanemike

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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: Aero]
#22005538 - 07/27/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes. I hope those tubs explode like Pompeii. I may not have had any rhizo's on agar or many on grain but I will tell you what Aero, there are some really nice and plentiful rhizo's in those tubs. I will attempt to get a few nice pics of them on friday evening when I open them up for the first and last time, until harvest.
Edited by insanemike (07/27/15 05:05 PM)
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insanemike

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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: Aero]
#22005540 - 07/27/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Double post
Edited by insanemike (07/27/15 05:04 PM)
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Aero
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: insanemike]
#22005550 - 07/27/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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insanemike said: Yes. I hope those tubs explode like Pompeii. I may not have had any rhizo's on agar or many on grain but I will tell you what Aero, there are some really nice and plentiful rhizo's in those tubs. I will attempt to get a few nice pics of them on friday evening when I open them up for the first and last time until harvest.
dude this culture was always really good for me, never had any problems with it, the trip is pretty mental too
ull see, im gonna need a print for sure
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insanemike

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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: Aero]
#22005558 - 07/27/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I got you on the print.
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taGyo
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: insanemike]
#22005954 - 07/27/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lookin' good Mike.
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Alkaloids
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: insanemike]
#22007648 - 07/28/15 12:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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insanemike said: Thanks for the question. I started this thread solely for the purpose of answering questions about my work so the community can learn and have a good understanding of how and why I want to accomplish such goals as a completely maintenance free grow chamber. Take into account that every system has its pro's and con's but dialing in one room out weigh's dialing in 20 tubs any day of the week especially if you have a job that is as demanding as mine.
Those percentages in the spawn mix aren't exact, they are rounded to the nearest whole %. Those ingredients are just what I had lying around at that time. You will definitely be seeing more diverse mixtures than that in the future.
My plan is to study nutrition and how it effects mushroom health and yield. In order for me to be satisfied with my controls for the nutritional experiments, I need an environment that doesn't need to be dialed in like a typical monotub. As long as my grow room conditions stay within my predetermined range and I use a proven set of genetics, I should only be collecting data that pertains to those nutritional effects.
Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. I will be following along. The data and methodology you are using are of interest to me as well.
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cArcace-x
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: Alkaloids]
#22008612 - 07/28/15 09:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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gonna read the whole post later when i can sit peacefully, i look interesting but have you considered testing the co2 level using some type of meter like this?: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Autopilot-Desktop-Co2-Monitor-temperature-humidity-lcd-display-24hr-/130789435431?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e73a86827
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insanemike

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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: cArcace-x]
#22008692 - 07/28/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes. First, I want to conduct a preliminary test run to give my system hard data that I can feed into it to determine whether I need to increase or decrease hole space. Second, I will be conducting another run with the adjustments and I will monitor the same thing I monitored on the first preliminary test run. My third test will be conducted using a co2 meter so that I can monitor ppm. My 4th test will be conducted using this http://www.amazon.com/Seek-LW-AAA-Thermal-Lightning-Connector/dp/B00NYWABAA so I can visually monitor air flow in and out of the tub.
My 5th run, I plan on being the final test run in which I will use a proven isolate. It will be a 4 tub run with one tub set up like a typical monotub and the other 3 tubs built to spec.
EDIT: I want to find a co2 meter that has a probe like set up that is similar to my new hygrometers.
Edited by insanemike (07/28/15 09:48 AM)
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taGyo
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: insanemike]
#22008694 - 07/28/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seriously revolutionary stuff going on here Mike.
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cArcace-x
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: taGyo]
#22008999 - 07/28/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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if you're good with computers and DIY you could build one with an arduino chip http://www.instructables.com/id/Environmental-Mushroom-Control-Arduino-Powered/?ALLSTEPS

indeed, nice stuff here
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36fuckin5
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: cArcace-x]
#22009253 - 07/28/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I stopped reading when you said you were using a MS culture. Your results mean nothing because you have more than one variable. Use an isolate.
-------------------- Redd Foxx said: If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more. Pat The Bunny said: A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me. bodhisatta said: i recommend common sense and figuring it out. These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
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insanemike

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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22009443 - 07/28/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Maybe you should try reading the entire thread and if you are really feeling confident, go a head and read my journal also. Don't come in here unprepared and half interested and throw crap like that at me. At this point the isolate is not a big concern. When I run my real test it will be with a proven mono culture. I know what I'm doing and have laid out my plans in detail throughout this thread. If you are too lazy to even read my work than I can certainly make the assumption that you will be too lazy to replicate my work when It's finished. So don't waste your time and please do not waste mine.
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36fuckin5
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: insanemike] 1
#22009668 - 07/28/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do the experiment, then post results. You're wasting all of our time with this crap. This is exactly how bad info gets started. Some half-assed experiment happens to work, but not because of the factor you're trying to test, then we get to read about failures for the next 3 years until it's proven that whatever was done didn't work in the first place.
-------------------- Redd Foxx said: If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more. Pat The Bunny said: A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me. bodhisatta said: i recommend common sense and figuring it out. These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
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taGyo
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22009674 - 07/28/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said: Do the experiment, then post results. You're wasting all of our time with this crap. This is exactly how bad info gets started. Some half-assed experiment happens to work, but not because of the factor you're trying to test, then we get to read about failures for the next 3 years until it's proven that whatever was done didn't work in the first place.
Why are you coming into his thread and starting drama?
This is what's wrong with this forum. If you have a problem then politely state it, he'll politely respond and then go about your separate ways. Some of us are very interested and if it fails or succeeds we all get to learn.
You're a TC, don't get into a pissing match with someone just trying to change things around.
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insanemike

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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: taGyo]
#22009709 - 07/28/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't want this crap in my thread. If you have a problem with me or my work, please take it up with an administrator. Otherwise, put my thread on hide so you don't have to see it pop up anymore.
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36fuckin5
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: taGyo] 1
#22009788 - 07/28/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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taGyo said: You're a TC, don't get into a pissing match with someone just trying to change things around.
How does that matter? It's not a paid position. I'm not a mod. This isn't my job. There are no special rules to being a TC.
You hippies just can't take people being blunt. And most of you would be laughed out of any real commercial mushroom op.
-------------------- Redd Foxx said: If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more. Pat The Bunny said: A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me. bodhisatta said: i recommend common sense and figuring it out. These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
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taGyo
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22009840 - 07/28/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said:
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taGyo said: You're a TC, don't get into a pissing match with someone just trying to change things around.
How does that matter? It's not a paid position. I'm not a mod. This isn't my job. There are no special rules to being a TC.
You hippies just can't take people being blunt. And most of you would be laughed out of any real commercial mushroom op.
Keep it out of the thread as requested by OP.
Thanks!
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22009897 - 07/28/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said: Do the experiment, then post results. You're wasting all of our time with this crap. This is exactly how bad info gets started. Some half-assed experiment happens to work, but not because of the factor you're trying to test, then we get to read about failures for the next 3 years until it's proven that whatever was done didn't work in the first place.
Why would he do an experiment yet? He is not finished his observation. He is right that at this point he doesn't need an isolated strain. All he really needs right now is an organism that breathes air, puts out CO2, and generates heat within a bulk substrate. Once he starts to dial in fine detail he will need an isolate or proven clone but at this stage he doesn't even need to be using cubes. Unless I have completely missed the mark on what the intent is at this stage.
Once he starts testing and fine tuning his prototype is when experiments and side by sides come into play. Right now he doesn't even have enough raw data to complete the build of the prototype.
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maddchef
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22009992 - 07/28/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I really really like turtles
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