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insanemike

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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: tripdawg420]
#21994533 - 07/25/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Update on the tubs. They are moving along nicely. The tub I have on the bottom shelf is about a day behind the tub on the shelf above it. I'm wondering if it's just because it's ms or if it's because the light source is closer to the tub up above? Either way the top tub should be done in another 3-4 days and the bottom tub should be done in 4-5.
Top Tub
 Bottom Tub

I don't plan on introducing fruiting conditions until next Friday anyway. That will give me my 24 hour window to extensively monitor and record conditions. I think I may bump up the recording of data from every 3 hours to every 1 hour for the entire 24 hours. My compisition book ran out of pages the other day, so I need to buy a new one. That last one was exclusively my plugging in of numbers into my system. I can't wait to introduce my other fruiting chamber designs aswell. They will all be built on the same principals and can suit the needs of many types of cultivating methods.
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Buck513
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: insanemike]
#21994556 - 07/25/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: Buck513]
#21994574 - 07/25/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: taGyo]
#21994616 - 07/25/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Direct light can cause bursts of colonization speed. Tmethyl observed this a few years back in his cultures. I myself don't go out of my way to add direct light but it can be a beneficial thing for colonization.
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insanemike

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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21994670 - 07/25/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Interesting. I may have to look further into that. I will put it on my list for future experiments. I will definitely look up Tmethyl's work. Thanks for the lead also, pasty.
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: insanemike]
#21996218 - 07/25/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your tubs look nice, like a beautiful christmas morning.
I wonder why a direct light source would speed up colonization. Something more to research.
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: insanemike]
#21997865 - 07/25/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those tubs look great insanemike. One thing that got my attention is your spawn mix. Do you have specific reasons to run those ingredients in those ratios? Very interesting work.
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insanemike

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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: Alkaloids]
#21998504 - 07/26/15 05:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the question. I started this thread solely for the purpose of answering questions about my work so the community can learn and have a good understanding of how and why I want to accomplish such goals as a completely maintenance free grow chamber. Take into account that every system has its pro's and con's but dialing in one room out weigh's dialing in 20 tubs any day of the week especially if you have a job that is as demanding as mine.
Those percentages in the spawn mix aren't exact, they are rounded to the nearest whole %. Those ingredients are just what I had lying around at that time. You will definitely be seeing more diverse mixtures than that in the future.
My plan is to study nutrition and how it effects mushroom health and yield. In order for me to be satisfied with my controls for the nutritional experiments, I need an environment that doesn't need to be dialed in like a typical monotub. As long as my grow room conditions stay within my predetermined range and I use a proven set of genetics, I should only be collecting data that pertains to those nutritional effects.
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: Buck513]
#21998537 - 07/26/15 06:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: insanemike]
#22003054 - 07/27/15 06:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mike
I hadn't commented, but have been following your project since it was first posted. Just wanted to sincerely thank you for doing this work. A few situations have occurred recently where guys didn't want to listen to the advice being given because there was no analysis. No math. They wanted data. What you are doing here is invaluable not only for the maximization of efficiency, but for incontrovertible evidence of why we do what we do.
Thank you for embarking on this. I will be staying tuned.
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insanemike

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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: SteveRogers]
#22003335 - 07/27/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you Steve, for showing your interest. It really does mean a lot to me. Are you or anyone else interested in seeing my data, trends and graphs? I plan on posting pretty pics of course, I'm just not sure if anyone is interestes in any of the technical shit that goes along with it.
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: insanemike]
#22003349 - 07/27/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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insanemike said: Are you or anyone else interested in seeing my data, trends and graphs?
pics are nice, but I for one most certainly want the data. whatever you got, even the failed stuff or speculative prework. I don't want to make more work for you, but it would be beneficial at least for me.
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: insanemike]
#22003350 - 07/27/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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you should post it, Mike. For the lurkers. People are learning from your postings, and if they aren't currently then the information will be there for future genertions and you never know. This could be the next big thing that's just a head of it's time.
Furthermore, is that a "frosting layer" you've got there on those tubs above??
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: hamloaf]
#22003445 - 07/27/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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insanemike

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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: hamloaf] 1
#22003459 - 07/27/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SteveRogers said:
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insanemike said: Are you or anyone else interested in seeing my data, trends and graphs?
pics are nice, but I for one most certainly want the data. whatever you got, even the failed stuff or speculative prework. I don't want to make more work for you, but it would be beneficial at least for me.
It really won't be a problem showing the technical side of my work. I just want to make sure I'm not wasting my time doing so. Since now I know atleast one poster is interested then I will go a head and present everything I record.
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hamloaf said: you should post it, Mike. For the lurkers. People are learning from your postings, and if they aren't currently then the information will be there for future genertions and you never know. This could be the next big thing that's just a head of it's time.
Furthermore, is that a "frosting layer" you've got there on those tubs above??
I really do hope people are interested in the science behind it because if they don't want to do the leg work to replicate my design than I might be spending quite a bit of time designing tubs that fit these cultivators specific grow conditions which are based on region and climate control. I am however, beginning to see that there are growers atleast interested in the outcome. I'm glad they are finally starting to show me that they care. This work may or may not be a head of it's time but I suppose that is for others to decide. I just feel like this has to be done before I can move onto other projects that are on my to do list.
For some reason I can not remember what I read that a frosting layer is. Just to clear up any confusion, I just mixed all the substrate and all my spawn in those turkey roasting bags and then dumped and spread it into the tubs, leaving grain kernels exposed until recovery.
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: insanemike]
#22003986 - 07/27/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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any update?
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MagicInMichigan
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: Aero]
#22004137 - 07/27/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Very interested in this thread. Did a few cakes to start and moved onto V-Tek with a great improvement on yields and ease over pointless cakes, can't wait to see if this improves mono yields/efficiency altogether. I'll have to wait for some results before doing my third tub, first two were nice for multispore and ass easy. Keep us updated!
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insanemike

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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: MagicInMichigan]
#22004193 - 07/27/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I could take another pic of each tub when I get home tonight, if you like? But there really isn't anything going on as of right now. The two thermometer/ hygrometers with probes that I ordered last week are being delivered in the mail today. Friday I plan on introducing FAE and monitoring conditions every hour for 24 hours. If there is anything that I should be presenting to you all, that I'm forgetting, please let me know.
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insanemike

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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: insanemike]
#22005274 - 07/27/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Since someone asked so politely earlier today, I have an update for you all. These are the tubs (best side view pics I could get)
Top Tub

Bottom Tub

These are my hygrometers, they just came in the mail today. They are very sensitive. The further apart those probes are, the more the readings begin to differ. This is the closest I could get them and they are still slighly off but that is expected. I will positively account for that in my data entries of course. I will use my acurite digital hygrometer to monitor grow room conditions and the two probe types for the two tubs.
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Re: Monotub Improvement Project preliminary test run #1 [Re: insanemike]
#22005459 - 07/27/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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they be ready soon
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