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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21982051 - 07/22/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

oh Netflix/Hulu are why there is better TV now. Hannibal was NBC's attempt at making a show on par with Netflix originals.


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21982415 - 07/22/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

the Wire was not the best show ever...close...but no. it's House. best show.


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21982440 - 07/22/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

House is a good show but the best?.. :justno:


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21982444 - 07/22/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

medical drama's turn me on.


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21982461 - 07/22/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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medical drama's turn me on.





Do they still play that show with the female doctor who does nothing but autopsies? Forgot what it is called, been years

I also remember watching a lot of medical dramas where people had really weird shit happen to make them go to the ER, like some old fat dude getting a vibrator stuck in his ass or a huge bug stuck in someone's ear



Strangely, I love watching home improvement shows, like ones where they completely redo landscapes and shows where they film people looking at several homes outside of the US and picking which one is best. I love those the most because they didn't just show nice, expensive homes but cheap, shitty ones to.



Watching those kinds of shows almost made me want to buy a summer house somewhere in between mexico and brazil, but decided it wasn't worth the money and effort


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21982473 - 07/22/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

that shit makes me sick. no offence. my mom watches those, and she's like sick in the head, i think.

fuck retail. philosophy is were it's at.

PS: yeah entertainment is just that, i'm just kidding. but really those reno shows make me sick. flipping houses make market's dive bomb.


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21982524 - 07/22/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

the shitty shows are shitty because they are cheap to make, the good shows are expensive.  Thats basically all it boils down to, that and american's have no standards.  Half of america just have their tv set to 1 or 2 channels and never change it


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21982533 - 07/22/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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that shit makes me sick. no offence. my mom watches those, and she's like sick in the head, i think.

fuck retail. philosophy is were it's at.

PS: yeah entertainment is just that, i'm just kidding. but really those reno shows make me sick. flipping houses make market's dive bomb.





I just like those shows because I love seeing all the different house styles and when they do crazy shit like making a room look like you're in a forest or a cave amuses the shit out of me. Would be cool having some of the rooms they show on renovation shows


So really, I just watch them because some of this stuff is kind of cool to me and I like getting design ideas from seeing all the different houses


I'll be honest, my house is pretty fucking empty and boring aside from my bedroom, but that's just because I spend most of my time in here

For example, my living room is just a couch, table, and a den rug. I have a poster too but nothing else. Most of the other rooms in my house are just as simple. I don't really use most of the rooms in my house and I can never decorate correctly. My room is pretty cool though, I got lots of posters that if you looked at, you would know what I like. I have a big tv and cozy bed, and my whole room takes on a sort of "expensive ranch" look with lots of stained wood furniture, candles,yellow accent lights, etc.

I wouldn't really know what I would have done with it if I didn't watch those shows though. They serve as nice templates, especially when you're clueless about design like me


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21982539 - 07/22/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

oh sure, i get ya. design is an interesting philosophy.

architecture is awesome as well. always loved it.

the shows i've seen though only focus on location and other trivial things like money, so maybe i've just seen the wrong shows.


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21982606 - 07/22/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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oh sure, i get ya. design is an interesting philosophy.

architecture is awesome as well. always loved it.

the shows i've seen though only focus on location and other trivial things like money, so maybe i've just seen the wrong shows.




Nah I know what you mean, a lot of what I saw was multimillion dollar homes on some private beach in costa rica or something.... Some of the people who were buying/renovating/etc those expensive homes were total rich snobs and I didn't like seeing that but I always saw past that crap

If you watch those shows and just ignore all of that shit, there is definitely a bit of eye candy to enjoy



I also loved seeing the process of whatever they were doing/building, it amazes me they can totally destroy a large room with sledgehammers and turn it into a beautiful fully furnished room in just a few days. They add a little bit of drama to it which I didn't care for much, but hey they have to do something to make the show appeal to more people r


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21982614 - 07/22/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

oh sure. i can see that. it's always interesting to see what you can do with a home. but i just really don't see the appeal in it the same way, because i don't care about where i reside, i care more about what i do. maybe in the future, when i run out of ideas on what to care for.


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21982618 - 07/22/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

they should make new tv series in packages of 2 seasons and make a decision after the first season finishes. then if its shit they can have a pre made alternate ending to the second series that closes everything up. then just put it online immediately  whilst people are still interested rather than a year later. then everyones happy :grin:


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: losthunter]
    #21982649 - 07/22/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Having a series end with a cliff hanger sucks, but I'd still be upset when one of my favorite shows was canceled regardless of having a "wrap up" season. I don't really grow bored with a series, as long as they can keep it interesting.

So no, that plan wouldn't make everyone happy.

I know it's not really feasible to keep a show going forever, but there are quite a few I wish were. It's hard to find a show I REALLY REALLY like. So it sucks when it ends. Most of what I watch is out of boredom.

Also I'd trade 10 of the shows I watch these days just to bring Firefly back. I'm still holding out hope that someday someone will make a new series that has the same chemistry going for it that Firefly did. That show had a lot of promise.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


Edited by Shroomslip (07/23/15 12:02 AM)


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21982669 - 07/23/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i don't understand how a show can be so good that they make a movie but don't keep the fucking show running, it makes no sense


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21982758 - 07/23/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

From what I've read, it wasn't made because the show was popular and they were trying to capitalize off it's popularity, Serenity was supposed to wrap up the show and give some sense of closure for the fans.

I don't really see how that's the case. In some ways it seems like Serenity is set in a completely different universe than the show. Been awhile so I can't remember all the details but I found it hard to establish a level of continuity between the end of Firefly and Serenity.

Only example I can come up with off the top of my head is in the show Simon and Kaylee already admit they have feelings for each other, but Simon and Kaylee are clueless of each other's feelings in Serenity until nearly the end of the movie. Oh, yeah. In the show River's true power becomes known, but then midway into Serenity her power is shown again, and everyone but Simon is absolutely confused by this. I'm also pretty sure Simon in Firefly learns what Reavers are, but he again rediscovers this fact in Serenity.

Just a lot of little things like that make me question how Serenity was meant to be the finale the show never got. A lot of already established facts in the show are again re-established in the movie. I guess maybe it was done so people who had never seen the show would not just be left in the dark, but at the same time it really doesn't explain much. There are plenty of ways to establish these facts without basically erasing the crew's memory for them to completely rediscover them.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


Edited by Shroomslip (07/23/15 12:30 AM)


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21982807 - 07/23/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

guessing they needed plot lines and punch lines, so they added them in to make the movie better for people who didn't see the tv show.  Still if a show is good enough to have a movie, you shouldn't be canceling the show, or ending it

and im watching the first episode of wayward pines and this shit is really good so far, can't believe they canceled this already.  I mean, i bet most people didn't even know about the show yet, not to mention the title for it is kind of stupid, i mean it makes sense but its not a good title to draw you into watching the show easily.  Based on the title alone i had no idea wtf this show was about, and the only reason i am watching it is because i researched new tv shows because i was bored.

i think there's an advertizing problem for some shows, i mean for as good a show this appears to be, you or whoever are the first person on the shroomery to mention it from any threads ive been in, not really mentioned anywhere else i visit on the web either, and there's a shitload of good actors in it too, i just can't believe this shit i already know im going to want a season 2


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Edited by makaveli8x8 (07/23/15 12:44 AM)


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21982829 - 07/23/15 12:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If you're talking about Wayward Pines it wasn't me that mentioned it. Though it is in my list to watch, I have heard about it. I don't have cable anymore and don't keep up with what shows come on what days so I just go by TV Guides 'new tonight' section to let me know what I need to look for. I also pick up new shows this way, see something that looks interesting so I book mark it to check out later.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: Patlal]
    #21982841 - 07/23/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Hannibal: Cancelled.

Most amazing psychological thriller I've ever seen in my life, serial killer and cannibal Hannibal Lecter. Mads Mikkelsson is fucking AMAZING. Superb acting. Intelligent show, great cast, 8.7/10 on IMBD. Same score as Mad Men, Louie, Who's Line, Sns of Anarchy etc..... It gets cancelled. WTF?

Wayward Pines: Cancelled

Another new amazing show, great story, lots of mystery, good acting, very interesting plot, enough of a story to make several seasons; cancelled

And yet they keep shitty shows on the air forever...

Why?




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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21982846 - 07/23/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

well like i said ive only watched the first episode but id rate it 9/10 for entertainment and curiosity value.  I keep wondering where its going to go, and whats going on, in a good way.  i see a bunch of angles it could go, and i havn't read anything about the show before watching, so reading the plot might ruin the show a bit so don't do it.

but if u havn't watched it yet, then do it asap you won't regret it.  its easily the best thing ive watched recently.  all my other shows are inbetween seasons.  ive been trying out a bunch of other shows but most of them are pretty crappy


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Re: Why do studios cancel amazing shows and renew shitty ones? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21983211 - 07/23/15 05:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Hannibal was alright, I'm not really upset it was canceled though. First season was great, but 2 and 3 (so far) just seemed to drag on forever. I could deal with more actual plot/dialog and less of the edgy artsy shit.

As for why good shows get canceled and crap stays on, couldn't tell you. Guess the general public just doesn't have the patience or attention span to support shows with actual plots. It's easier to just plop down and watch some reality bullshit than get emotionally vested in an actual show and follow a plot for more than 5 minutes at a time.




This is exactly my problem with hannibal.  I dont even care to watch this season because its going way overboard on the stupid artsy shit and less on the plot.  They had one episode that felt like I was watching some art film shit at some pretentious french show or some shit.  Ugh.

Surprised it got cancelled though.  The previous seasons were great.  The artst crap was there, but not dragged out and in your face non stop.  I dunno, sometimes I think the general populace is just too stupid for shows that require a bit more higher thinking then family guy antics to ever get good enough ratings to stay on air.


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