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I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation
    #21981022 - 07/22/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

My head is in panic, overthinking the situation that just happened.:confused:

A hour ago i was smoking weed with my friends, i rarely smoke weed anymore (explained in my other post) when everyone that was facing me were starting to feel really bad, confused and awkward for some reason :frown: they are my good friends. it just pains me to see this. This happened before, that's why i don't want to smoke weed anymore.. I just thought okay lets try it again after some time and and see how it goes. anyways, one of my friends had a real panic face, as if he was looking death right in the eyes. other two became extremely silent and i felt them being awkward aswell.. everyone had trouble speaking, their voices were shaking, like they were gasping for air. it's weird cus i know how they acted before (like a year ago when we were smoking together) everything was just cool and mellow. as i said before this never happened:( I don't know why but i feel like i am the cause of this.. Since my bad truffel experienced where i experienced a shock/trauma because of my N dad.

What could be the cause of this? I hate it, that's why i often decide to stay away from such an evening with my friends, since it's happening over and over again.

Does anybody recognize this? please help


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: MarizPeace]
    #21981235 - 07/22/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I feel ya man. Lately a single hit will make me feel that way.
However the first thought that pops into my mind is, is the weed your smoking for sure organic meaning not laced? Just a thought. Also have you ever considered blessing your weed and smoke session? This is done verbally just speaking over the bowl or the session saying "I bless and cleans my sacred space and the sacred space between me and you, and bless this marijuana"

If it seems silly to say (and sometime's it feels that way) say it under your breath if you don't want anyone to hear. I do this daily over my food, substances literally anything your putting into your body.
If you don't feel like that's enough try "smudging" a tightly banded roll of sage or a holy wood stick is perfect for blessing.
Wish you the best bud I hope you get it figured out.

P.S. stay positive try not to let it et you down or bring down your positivity.


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: MarizPeace]
    #21981401 - 07/22/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

this is paranoia, I smoke daily but if I have been without for a few days then have a smoke round my mates I get what ur describing.
key word you used was 'overethinking'...
good weed always fucks up my powers of speech by the end of the 2nd joint.  your more self conscious when stoned so will always think to yourself 'did I sound stupid',  ect..
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MarizPeace said:
everyone that was facing me were starting to feel really bad, confused and awkward for some reason :frown:



how do you know this? or did u just assume this, because these are your feelings? maybe the psychedelic drug that weed is made yor friends selfconcious, gave them a dry mouth and fucked up their powers of speech slightly too. same as you, same as me. I know that any awkwardness that happens between me and my smoking pals is 99.9% weed induced, so either accept this as part of the side effect and shrug it off, or just don't smoke weed.
dictionary definition of paranoia is: an irrational, unjustifiable or unfounded fear of something
I think you have been ground down by your dad and your levels of selfconfidence are low. +you think too much. don't overthink things. Extreme stress caused to you by emotional/ verbal abuse could cause a bit of paranoia, then amplified by the weed, becomes very strong if u know what I mean.  next sesh you have wiv your mates get some molly/E and have some free and easy yet deep and meaningful conversations with them. proper eye opener conversations. dont get paranoia, no point. if you have friends then u must be likable.. like urself more too
This is my mantra for when I start overthinking and over analysing things:
Err...FUCK IT! :wink:

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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: JacobStorm]
    #21981515 - 07/22/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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JacobStorm said:However the first thought that pops into my mind is, is the weed your smoking for sure organic meaning not laced?




This is exactly what popped into my head when I read the post. OP, I have not read the other post you referred to, but this sort of 'looking death in the eyes' feeling is something that screams synthetics to me...

You sure this is actually cannabis and not JWH or something?


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21981539 - 07/22/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I agree with cowsRmeat.
I'm not trying to be offensive but I'm gonna assume your fairly young.
I as a youngin personally never accepted any substance from anyone unless it was family. I never had experiences like that so its hard to relate. I would either take a break from whatever your smoking or thoroughly check your source. Another idea to clean out the smoking device if your using one. I had a time smoking with some buddys and we were using his older brothers DMT pipe and that ended poorly for the other two guys out of ignorance of course.


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: JacobStorm]
    #21981784 - 07/22/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

His weed is not laced. You guys are not helping by going down this road. He clearly has some psychological issues with Cannabis and should probably just abstain from use. Or find new friends who don't act like they are 13 when they smoke weed.


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21981816 - 07/22/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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SteveRogers said:
His weed is not laced. You guys are not helping by going down this road. He clearly has some psychological issues with Cannabis and should probably just abstain from use. Or find new friends who don't act like they are 13 when they smoke weed.





Lol okay you obviously know the situation and the person personally.
Please continue to give positive help. That's working.


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: MarizPeace]
    #21981865 - 07/22/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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SteveRogers said:He clearly has some psychological issues with Cannabis



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MarizPeace said:everyone had trouble speaking, their voices were shaking, like they were gasping for air.




You think all of them are having psychological issues?



I'm just speaking from experience here... I've never seen an entire group of people smoking just go into fear and silence from smoking weed together... Sounds like what synthetics do to folks... :shrug:
Just sayin.

But I agree - whatever it is you are smoking OP, I would abstain from it... Real cannabis or not, it doesn't sound like a pleasant experience.


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21982952 - 07/23/15 01:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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cowsRmeat said:
Quote:

SteveRogers said:He clearly has some psychological issues with Cannabis



Quote:

MarizPeace said:everyone had trouble speaking, their voices were shaking, like they were gasping for air.




You think all of them are having psychological issues?



I'm just speaking from experience here... I've never seen an entire group of people smoking just go into fear and silence from smoking weed together... Sounds like what synthetics do to folks... :shrug:
Just sayin.

But I agree - whatever it is you are smoking OP, I would abstain from it... Real cannabis or not, it doesn't sound like a pleasant experience.




I think SteveRogers is implying that these perceptions are a result of the 'psychological issues' themselves.


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: praxadox]
    #21982979 - 07/23/15 02:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Jesus christ way to overshoot the mark everyone. Nobody failed to mention how weed is the most antisocial social drug there is? Its commonly reported by a lot of people to make them anxious, long and short term users, which can easily create awkwardness between people. Far out.

OP, just have a chat to your friends and try to broach the subject with them, if you're comfortable friends they'll probably know what you're talking about, although if they're not you may be met with denial, some people aren't comfortable admitting that stuff...

I commonly have groups go silent/awkward when we're smoking, it's just the way it goes a lot of the time. I find I can usually keep a pretty good conversational flow going as long as I don't get myself too whacked, which is what you guys might be doing.


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: praxadox] * 1
    #21982987 - 07/23/15 02:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I know exactly what you mean man. It all starts off with a vibe that everyone feeds off of and if one person is giving off a weird aquward vibe then some people tend to follow in that. I've been having this happen on certain substances with my friends too. Feels weird as fuck and everyone's just not themselves.


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21983077 - 07/23/15 03:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The chances of weed actually being laced are slim to none. It is however a lot stronger than it used to be, and it effects everyone differently. I think it's most likely that OP's weed induced paranoia is causing him to read into his friends' weed induced disorientation. I recommend just taking a few small tokes or just not smoking at all next time. If you have good friends, they'll understand.


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: Starless]
    #21983099 - 07/23/15 03:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'd be more inclined to agree with the others. Either you're projecting your own discomfort and paranoia on to the others, or it's very strong weed and you're all out of your comfort zone.

If it is strong weed, don't get suckered into keeping up with others. Have a small toke, give it 5 minutes to see where it'll get you, then carry on. The weed high through smoking is super easy to moderate.

The only time I've ever gone a bit crazy on weed was during a long weekend in Amsterdam. We were in a bar and I was very stoned, everyone was laughing, then suddenly their laughter seemed directed at me. I was then momentarily convinced they were all laughing at me. So I jumped up, went for a walk, and shook myself out of it. I knew it was me projecting some monetary anxiety attack onto them.


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: misterjingo]
    #21983108 - 07/23/15 03:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:patlal: cannabis man


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: nuds]
    #21983132 - 07/23/15 04:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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nuds said:
Jesus christ way to overshoot the mark everyone. Nobody failed to mention how weed is the most antisocial social drug there is? Its commonly reported by a lot of people to make them anxious, long and short term users, which can easily create awkwardness between people. Far out.

OP, just have a chat to your friends and try to broach the subject with them, if you're comfortable friends they'll probably know what you're talking about, although if they're not you may be met with denial, some people aren't comfortable admitting that stuff...

I commonly have groups go silent/awkward when we're smoking, it's just the way it goes a lot of the time. I find I can usually keep a pretty good conversational flow going as long as I don't get myself too whacked, which is what you guys might be doing.






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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21983328 - 07/23/15 06:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

so i just woke up, feeling absolutely tired drained and unmotivated, i have decided that i stay away from weed forever :frown:

Can't really say if the weed was laced, it was me getting paranoid pretty much. what i also feel is that i indeed think i projected my uncomfortable and paranoid emotions to my friends, tho i asked them about it and they assured me everything was fine:confused: even when it really did feel like it was the case :/ when i felt like i did that i became even more self conscious and uncomfortable :frown: i didn't know where to look at anymore, so i just thought 'look down, don't look at them. I hate it so much, I've always been a giver and much rather contribute a good vibe to my friends, then make them feel bad! :frown: How can i stop projecting my bullshit onto others?? I don't do it intentionally.. It might be my stoner face, as i noticed some of my facial muscles relaxed while others tensed up really bad, i didn't had the chance to look at my facial expression at that moment but i feel like i looked really sad or something. Also could my body language has to do something with it? I never had this problem before, i am really back into the old fog where i just left my dad, now it feels like i have to recover completely new again..  :confused:

Just since my trauma experience on truffels where i had a mega shock while tripping on truffels (dragon dynamite 10grams) something in me has changed.
I know i have been abused by my N dad and still suffer from it, currently going to a therapist.

Thanks for replying everyone :smile:


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: MarizPeace]
    #21983342 - 07/23/15 06:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Dude you are a perfect candidate for MDMA if you haven't tried it yet. It could demolish those barriers with your friends and bring you a sense of friendship and acceptance that you never thought possible. It's by far one of my favorite chemicals and could really help any PTSD or social anxiety you might carry with you.


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21983351 - 07/23/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Does the positive effects of MDMA last longer than the actual high itself?

I have never tried MDMA..yet I have taken "rolls" 3 or 4 times but I guess they were all bunk because I never got high off any of them. 1 was "blue buddah's" another were called "yellow smiley's"...etc..but I never got off on any of them.


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
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It's just a shot away..


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21983369 - 07/23/15 07:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If used in the right setting hell yea. I've had the deepest conversations with my friends on MDMA where we all just lay everything on the table, doesn't matter how deep a secret or how painful it is when you're sober to think about, you can just talk freely about it and get your emotions out there without the fear of being judged. That's why it's making such a big difference in PTSD patients, 80% of suicidal victims that take MDMA come out of the experience better and without the feeling that they need to take their own life.

Trust me man the connections that you can make on this substance are something you've never felt before. You can bond with friends, family, lovers on a level that you never thought possible.


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21983373 - 07/23/15 07:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

This might sound weird to some of you, but i am at a point where i actually believe in this.

It's about my energy/vibe/chakra however you want to call it. Since that moment when my N dad entered the room while we were tripping and had his typical Narccistic/psychopatic rage attack to me, i felt complete doom and sorry for saying it again shocked.. Like something bad of him had entered my body/energy.. cus i read that while tripping your more open to good aswell as bad.. I have talked about this to other people, some say you could be right, some say it's complete bullshit. After each time this happens with my friends i really do think my energy is bad. When i didn't smoke weed this wouldn't be the case or atleast not to such a degree while i was with my friends. I really start to believe in it more and more. Please help, how can i cleanse my energy? I don't want to be my old self again, just my new self with good vibes and contributing good things to my friends, and don't drain them :frown: Just like the old days where i would laugh and people around me, aswell as friends would start laughing instantly aswell. I much rather do that then make them feel bad!

if anyone can pull some info out of my other thread if their interested, i am really thankful here is the link http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21946325/vc/1#21946325

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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: MarizPeace]
    #21983384 - 07/23/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Whew, MDMA sounds pretty good! i have heard of it before, some said it is similar to xtc? I am just not sure if doing MDMA in my condition is a good idea? i really can't say cus i have alot to recover from, should i discuss this with my therapist? he is really open about everything but i am just not sure..

Thanks again for bearing with my stuff guys, i really appreciate it! :smile:


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: MarizPeace]
    #21983398 - 07/23/15 07:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

MDMA is ecstasy. I would suggest doing some research on the therapeutic uses for the chemical other than just the rave/party side. I really think this beautiful substance can help a lot of people including yourself.


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: MarizPeace]
    #21983900 - 07/23/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hi MarizPeace, in my opinion, those who said that you're probably projecting your anxiety on your friends are probably right. It's fairly common to become very self conscious when smoking weed. If there are unresolved emotional issues, this heightened self conscience may very well make you feel anxious, bad about yourself, etc., which could make you interpret your friends reactions from that "Something's wrong with me, I'm causing this awkward situation" point of view.

I would strongly suggest talking to your therapist about this, especially if he is open minded and you have a good connection with him. It could help you a lot in order to look together for the reason that's causing this difficult experiences. That reason is probably related to your personal history and you could discover a lot about yourself, which would help you become less limited and more autonomous (by autonomous I mean less conditioned by your previous history and able to make new choices about who you want to be from now on, if that makes any sense).

Personally, weed often makes me overthink everything too much which sometimes makes me feel insecure and anxious, but I interpret it as a more intense manifestation of personality traits that are already there and that can be looked at to understand why they are there. It's quite common to see those symptoms decrease or fade away just by contemplating them and understanding their function (on an emotional level first).

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MarizPeace said:
This might sound weird to some of you, but i am at a point where i actually believe in this.

It's about my energy/vibe/chakra however you want to call it. Since that moment when my N dad entered the room while we were tripping and had his typical Narccistic/psychopatic rage attack to me, i felt complete doom and sorry for saying it again shocked.. Like something bad of him had entered my body/energy.. cus i read that while tripping your more open to good aswell as bad..




It doesn't sound weird at all. However, instead of interpreting it as "bad" energy that has entered, I interpret what happened to you (although you are the only one who can find the best interpretation that suits you) as a strong emotional experience, where you have introjected what your dad thought/said/felt about you and made it your own. This can easily lead to not feeling completely happy about what kind of person you are (especially considering it's your father and not just some random person), even though it's something that probably had more to do with that person than with yourself in the first place. If you're interested in this psychological mechanism, I suggest you read about the Gestalt Therapy cycle of experience :wink:

Don't be so hard on yourself, try to not overthink and give yourself permission to define yourself by your own present experience. Oh, and never forget that a relationship involves more than a person and you're not the only one responsible for other people's reactions and well-being. Of course all of this takes a lot of time, but I'm sure you can do it and don't hesitate to ask your therapist for help anytime you need it :smile:

PD: I hope what I wrote makes sense, English is not my first language lol

Peace:thumbup:


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21984701 - 07/23/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

MDMA is incredibly therapeutic given the right setting and mind frame.
I've never taken MDMA at a party or too rave ect.. I've always taken it and stared into a mirror (literally self reflecting) it can be brutal but the end results are always magic. That's just me of course but I'd recommend it to anyone.


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: JacobStorm]
    #21986446 - 07/23/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

A an aside, pure MDMA in uncompressible, so if you run into compressed ecstasy pills, they're cut with something. It could be something harmless, but it could also be something fucked like fentinyl. E pills have a much higher chance of being laced than most other drugs. I urge anyone who wants to try MDMA to only buy it in it's pure form (a white to light brown powder) in gel caps. It's stronger, safer, and doesn't make you feel like absolute shit the next day.

OP, if you can find the good stuff, I highly recommend trying it with your friends. I think it could help you resolve a lot of issues.


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Substances I have allegedly taken: Cannabis (bud, edibles, and concentrates), Mushrooms (P. Cubensis), LSD, ETH-LAD, ALD-52, DMT, MDMA, Mescaline (Peruvian Torch), 25I-NBOMe, Salvia Divinorum (10x), Syrian Rue, Amanita Muscaria (10x), Cocaine, Nightshade (Henbane).

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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: Starless]
    #21986836 - 07/23/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You can always look up the mg contents of what's in the pill in Europe. There's a lot of really good pressed pills going around with just a binder and the MDMA


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Re: I feel guilty/smoked weed with friends/awkward situation [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22164575 - 08/30/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

In my opinion I don't think you need any drugs to get through this tough time. Especially ones that are so illegal. You don't need that extra stress! MDMA is a very therapeutic chemical, but I find myself feeling very down in the days following consumption. If pot makes you nervous and self-conscious, then try to sty away from it, especially at social events. It is a very introspective drug and can potentiate your anxiety.


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