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TXenlightenment


Registered: 07/20/15
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My first BRF grow...a couple of questions please
#21980820 - 07/22/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I found the following TEK on YouTube using BRF cakes -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHJQrsZFQdE It’s from Roadkill...I’m new to this community so I apologize that I am unfamiliar with him. And after a little searching I see he was/is a true legend but hasn’t been on the board for about a year and a half. Anyway, this is my first shot at growing and it seems like an easy to follow TEK. I am a little OCD though...so as I watched the videos I wrote down his instructions in chronological order. I am doing my shopping today so I have a few questions before I begin. I am sincerely appreciative for any guidance y’all can provide.
1. Is this TEK still up to date or are there any steps I should tweak/change? 2. I promise I used the search function for this next question and found LOTS of threads but not one that explains it to a dumbass newbie like me. What the hell is honey water used for? And should I try using it my first time? 3. Are there any strains that seem to stay healthier and yield more using the BFR substrate? I'm thinking of Golden Teacher for sure...any other specific recommendations? 4. Do most of the sponsors include needles with their syringes?
Creating substrate for 20 ½ pint jar cakes
8 cups Vermiculite 4 cups Brown Rice Flour 4 cups spring or mineral water
-- Take the lids to your jars and punch 4 small holes for inoculation sites...wipe with alcohol and then cover the holes with micro-spore tape....set to the side -- Mix water with vermiculite first. Then add brown rice. Mix very well...make sure it’s fluffy -- Fill jars...don’t pack but flatten lightly. Needs to be loose and airy -- dry the inside of the lip of the jar very well -- lightly top off the jar with dry vermiculite -- place lids on the jars rubber ring side up -- place foil over the jar lids
Sterilizing the substrate
-- place a layer of jar rings on the bottom of a large pot -- cover the rings with foil -- place a second layer of jar rings on the foil -- place enough water in the pot to come up to the top layer of rings (make sure the bottom of the jars are not touching the water) -- Place a lid on the pot and bring to a boil then reduce heat to a slow rolling simmer for 90 minutes -- Make sure you don’t let the pot boil dry...you may need to add a bit of water throughout the steaming process.
Inoculation process
-- prior to handling jars, cut holes in the front of the Rubbermaid container for your arms -- place alcohol lamp to the side for -- wipe down the entire inside of the container with rubbing alcohol and place the jars inside, close lid tightly -- sanitize gloves with alcohol soaked paper towel -- shake syringes well -- flame sterilize the needle (make sure this is done between inoculating every jar...let it cool -- shoot the liquid at an angle towards the glass side of the jar -- Place jars at approx 82-83 degrees for 2-3 weeks to fully colonize (the inside of the jars actually need to be around 86 degrees but some het is generated in the jar from growth and lack of air flow)...ambient light will benefit the mycelium -- keep checking for green mold (trichoderma)...if you see it, trash the jar without opening it. -- you want full 100% colonization..all white!
Fruiting your chamber ------Birthing and Dunk & Roll
-- wait 1 week after full colonization to birth – this gives the mycelium a chance to really get a hold of the substrate
-- Take your Rubbermaid containers and drill ¼” inch holes, evenly spaced holes in all 6 sides -- soak enough perlite to cover the bottom of the fruiting chamber 4-5 inches thick...you are also rinsing it to remove dust...allow to drain well. Make sure it remains light and fluffy...don’t pack it down
-- remove the cakes from the jar and brush all loose vermiculite for the cake...go ahead and sniff to make sure it has that nice mushroom smell -- rinse well under running water -- place cakes in a pot of cold distilled water -- weight cakes down and soak for 24 hours in a cool location -- rinse cake well and roll in DRY vermiculite (prior to rolling your cakes it may be a good idea to put this vermiculite on a cookie sheet in the oven at 350 degrees for about an hour...just to kill anything that might have landed on it.) -- place cake and place them in the fruiting chamber on foil squares -- let them sit for about 30 minutes with the lid on then come back and mist them very well a few times over the next 2 hours. Make sure it’s nice and moist
-- Make sure you open the lid a few times a day and mist the cakes and perlite directly...then use the lid to circulate the air...this removes the Co2
-- After each flush re-dunk the cakes for the next growth
Edited by TXenlightenment (07/22/15 04:06 PM)
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bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent


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Re: My first BRF grow...a couple of questions please [Re: TXenlightenment]
#21980837 - 07/22/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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1. it's fine but check out the second link in my signature too.
2. don't worry about it until you know about it you'll find out when you're skilled enough to make a LC but if you have to ask questions about it you're not ready
3. no a variety really means almost nothing. there's a few exceptions like Penis Envy and a few others. however two spores mating successfully = a strain. the name on a syringe is not a strain, it's a variety. if you use agar and get 100 isolates (product of just two spores) and test them out maybe a handful of them will be amazing strains. you can have amazing strains of any variety. if you grow from spores you literally have 100s if not 1000s of strains working together as a single organism in your grow. your mushrooms will actually be multiple strains, you get lucky when you clone a mushroom grown from a spore syringe and it's an isolate on the first shot, most often the mushrooms you get when you grow from spores are a few strains. clones are the best way to get good performance since you know you have good strains. a variety is just a name, the spores have no idea they have a name attached to them. you can actually mix every variety of cubes together in one jar and be just fine.
4. probably but you can ask
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TXenlightenment


Registered: 07/20/15
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Re: My first BRF grow...a couple of questions please [Re: bodhisatta]
#21980889 - 07/22/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
bodhisatta said: 1. it's fine but check out the second link in my signature too.
2. don't worry about it until you know about it you'll find out when you're skilled enough to make a LC but if you have to ask questions about it you're not ready
3. no a variety really means almost nothing. there's a few exceptions like Penis Envy and a few others. however two spores mating successfully = a strain. the name on a syringe is not a strain, it's a variety. if you use agar and get 100 isolates (product of just two spores) and test them out maybe a handful of them will be amazing strains. you can have amazing strains of any variety. if you grow from spores you literally have 100s if not 1000s of strains working together as a single organism in your grow. your mushrooms will actually be multiple strains, you get lucky when you clone a mushroom grown from a spore syringe and it's an isolate on the first shot, most often the mushrooms you get when you grow from spores are a few strains. clones are the best way to get good performance since you know you have good strains. a variety is just a name, the spores have no idea they have a name attached to them. you can actually mix every variety of cubes together in one jar and be just fine.
4. probably but you can ask
Thanks bod...I will read your links as well...although my eyes are so sore from reading I'm just ready to start growing at this point. I think I will just go with a couple of varieties for the time being and see which seems to give me the least amount of problems and largest yield. Can I assume that different sponsors may have better quality genetics? Or just pick one with a good rep and run with it? I was a very successful grower of the green some years ago. And I was anal about knowing everything then as well. I realize I'm going to screw up a few times, that's how knowledge is gained. Appreciate the feedback...
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bodhisatta 
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Re: My first BRF grow...a couple of questions please [Re: TXenlightenment]
#21980973 - 07/22/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Most vendors get their prints from people on this website.. Pick any vendor avoid spores101
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TXenlightenment


Registered: 07/20/15
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Re: My first BRF grow...a couple of questions please [Re: bodhisatta]
#21981922 - 07/22/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks again...I went with a known sponsor and decided on Golden Teacher and Equador. Just hope the heat wave we're having doesn't hurt the spores. I did pay extra for priority shipping and can see my mailbox from my office window...so I can get them out of the box as soon as they arrive. And all my equipment and supplies are on their way via Amazon Prime. Ain't technology great?! Wish me luck!!
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