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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#21980828 - 07/22/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: It is almost always other young Negro men. The police are trying to save the lives of innocent Negroes by culling the predators who prey on them who are almost always young male Negroes.
Young black men kill many more than the police, but that is not what this movement is about.
The black lives matter movement is about police killing black people. Black on black violence is a separate issue.
The reason police killings make people so angry while black-on-black violence doesn't is that the police are in a position of trust. They are paid by the public to keep people safe - and when they do the opposite for no good reason, people are justifiably upset.
Unnecessary black on black violence is a very hard problem to solve. Unnecessary police on black violence is a solvable problem.
"people are justifiably upset"
No they're not, the use of police force was been proven justifiable in the court of law. Remember Michael Brown? They were all upset over a violent thug sucker punching a cop and trying to steal his gun, and then getting killed, that's a pretty stupid reason to get upset.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: qman]
#21980829 - 07/22/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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BlindSophist said: "We" are Americans, a multiracial grouping.
Go up to those people and say "transsexuals lives matter", I got news for you, it wouldn't turn out very well.
QFT.
FUCK BLACK LIVES MATTER!!!!
ALL lives matter,
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#21980834 - 07/22/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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BlindSophist said: "We" are Americans, a multiracial grouping.
Go up to those people and say "transsexuals lives matter", I got news for you, it wouldn't turn out very well.
QFT.
FUCK BLACK LIVES MATTER!!!!
ALL lives matter,
I sense that my rebuttal will be selectively ignored by the all lives matter crowd, so I'm going to keep posting it every time somebody agrees that it was a good idea to discredit my argument on the basis of me being a transsexual.
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qman said: Go up to those people and say "transsexuals lives matter", I got news for you, it wouldn't turn out very well.
Do you realize how cheap it is to use this as a way to discredit my position?
Did I say something untrue? You have to realize that they are the professionals of victimization in the US, your struggles and life are meaningless to them.
Do you think black trans women are treated fairly by the authorities just because there may be more victimization of trans women within their own communities?
http://www.advocate.com/transgender/2015/07/17/black-woman-who-claims-iowa-police-arrested-her-being-trans-now-placed-isolat
The only victimization I see here is being perpetrated by citizens and police who implicitly agree that black women, and trans women, are both inclined to be prostitutes, therefore a black trans woman is definitely a prostitute.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Sophistic Radiance] 5
#21980859 - 07/22/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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BlindSophist said: "We" are Americans, a multiracial grouping.
Go up to those people and say "transsexuals lives matter", I got news for you, it wouldn't turn out very well.
Do you realize how cheap it is to use this as a way to discredit my position?
Nowhere near as cheap as the butthurt you display each time someone says something you don't like.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#21980872 - 07/22/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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See above post
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Sophistic Radiance] 6
#21980888 - 07/22/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I sense that my rebuttal will be selectively ignored by the all lives matter crowd, so I'm going to keep posting it every time somebody agrees that it was a good idea to discredit my argument on the basis of me being a transsexual.
As you well know I am not saying you are full of shit because you are trans. I'm saying you are full of shit because you are full of shit.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: zappaisgod] 2
#21980897 - 07/22/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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People are right to ignore what you post. Your butthurt precludes posts with common sense.
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As you well know I am not saying you are full of shit because you are trans. I'm saying you are full of shit because you are full of shit.
That.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: zappaisgod]
#21980898 - 07/22/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I sense that my rebuttal will be selectively ignored by the all lives matter crowd, so I'm going to keep posting it every time somebody agrees that it was a good idea to discredit my argument on the basis of me being a transsexual.
As you well know I am not saying you are full of shit because you are trans. I'm saying you are full of shit because you are full of shit.
I strongly disagree with your opinion but I see that and can respect that. But so far we have at least three people who disagree with you, and seem to think that I am full of shit because I am trans.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#21980902 - 07/22/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: People are right to ignore what you post. Your butthurt precludes posts with common sense.
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As you well know I am not saying you are full of shit because you are trans. I'm saying you are full of shit because you are full of shit.
That.
Your projection of butthurt onto me precludes your ability to read posts with common sense, apparently
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Sophistic Radiance] 4
#21980908 - 07/22/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Except, it's not a projection. It's the impression you leave. I suspect it's an accurate one.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: zappaisgod]
#21980910 - 07/22/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: I Dont think its a separate issue at all. I mean where are we to draw the line. Whitey is to blame for all of it.
Police violence against blacks and black on black violence are very separate issues.
The causes and solutions are extremely different.
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zappaisgod said: Michael Brown was a thug. Trayvon Martin was a thug. Eric Garner was a thug and died of a heart attack because he was an obese asthmatic, not choked to death.
Agreed. However police racism is a real issue in this country. The way black people are treated by the police is very different from the way white people are treated. Blacks are much more likely to be detained, searched and arrested. There are many reasons for this - and it's an issue that needs to be addressed.
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What makes you think it is easier to prevent police violence than Negro violence.
Because the police are not anonymous thugs. We hold them to a higher standard since they have formal training and we pay them with our tax dollars.
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Complaining about somebody retorting with "all lives matter" Is racist. All lives do matter.
All lives do matter, but that's not the point. Saying "all lives matter" is dismissive of an important point which needs to be addressed.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#21980914 - 07/22/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: Except, it's not a projection. It's the impression you leave. I suspect it's an accurate one.
Not that you'd ever check that by, say, for example, reading posts I make which are appropriate to the discussion and which follow a logical train of reasoning.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Sophistic Radiance] 2
#21980936 - 07/22/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's exactly what I do. I read every post in any thread that I enter. I don't focus on yours.
It's just that the stupidity of your posts and the butthurt you display is too obvious to miss, even if I wanted to.
Take heart though... I only point out the egregiously stupid things you say. Most of your comments merely elicit a laugh.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Sophistic Radiance] 1
#21980947 - 07/22/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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you see this is what happens when you let those goddamn irish try to do nything important. He's got black people jumping up going outta fucking control. Ive def learned from this black lives matter thing. Racism is a real thing that everyone should be aware of and teach it to our children. If we ignore elephant in the room of racism black people may never be to go to college or not live in a place where other black people and police kill them randomly for no just reason. Its important to recognize specifically that black lives matter above all other races and give them special treatment because that helps racism grow which society has deemed good. so glad these are the values young people see today as improtant issues. Also trans peoples opinions are moot.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#21980961 - 07/22/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I sense that my rebuttal will be selectively ignored by the all lives matter crowd, so I'm going to keep posting it every time somebody agrees that it was a good idea to discredit my argument on the basis of me being a transsexual.
As you well know I am not saying you are full of shit because you are trans. I'm saying you are full of shit because you are full of shit.
I strongly disagree with your opinion but I see that and can respect that. But so far we have at least three people who disagree with you, and seem to think that I am full of shit because I am trans.
Moi? You know damn well I don't give a shit about that. You and the other ladies haven't had a better champion than me and you know it. I disagree with you because you are a liberal. Your orientation is completely irrelevant to my disdain for your lack of a realistic view of the world.
"Black Lives Matter" is racist. If you really thought black lives mattered you'd be encouraging the police. Instead you glom on to some false narrative that sprouted from a lie. I really don't think you have thought this through at all.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#21980968 - 07/22/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: I Dont think its a separate issue at all. I mean where are we to draw the line. Whitey is to blame for all of it.
Police violence against blacks and black on black violence are very separate issues.
The causes and solutions are extremely different.
Maybe if the government didnt defund innercity schools and teach a prodominatly white curriculum while at the same time funnling in cheap guns and drugs and manipulating traffic patterns to keep un desesirables in the ghetto the young black male wouldnt be forced to resort to violence to puchase the neccesities that food stamps and welfare cannot afford but yet the privileged white males are entitled too, its not fair.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#21980971 - 07/22/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ZiG, I think you misread my post. I was saying that I acknowledge that you disagree with me on the basis of my statements, themselves. However, the count is now up to four people who feel my opinions don't matter in the first place because of my gender:
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: Also trans peoples opinions are moot.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#21980980 - 07/22/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: I Dont think its a separate issue at all. I mean where are we to draw the line. Whitey is to blame for all of it.
Police violence against blacks and black on black violence are very separate issues.
The causes and solutions are extremely different.
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zappaisgod said: Michael Brown was a thug. Trayvon Martin was a thug. Eric Garner was a thug and died of a heart attack because he was an obese asthmatic, not choked to death.
Agreed. However police racism is a real issue in this country. The way black people are treated by the police is very different from the way white people are treated. Blacks are much more likely to be detained, searched and arrested. There are many reasons for this - and it's an issue that needs to be addressed.
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What makes you think it is easier to prevent police violence than Negro violence.
Because the police are not anonymous thugs. We hold them to a higher standard since they have formal training and we pay them with our tax dollars.
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Complaining about somebody retorting with "all lives matter" Is racist. All lives do matter.
All lives do matter, but that's not the point. Saying "all lives matter" is dismissive of an important point which needs to be addressed.
The point that needs to be addressed, Alan, is the behavior of young Negro males. The fact of the matter is that they should be profiled. All young males should be profiled. They constitute the majority of douchebags
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#21980982 - 07/22/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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BlindSophist said: ZiG, I think you misread my post. I was saying that I acknowledge that you disagree with me on the basis of my statements, themselves. However, the count is now up to four people who feel my opinions don't matter in the first place because of my gender:
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: Also trans peoples opinions are moot.
I'm not one of them
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: zappaisgod]
#21980984 - 07/22/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: The point that needs to be addressed, Alan, is the behavior of young Negro males. The fact of the matter is that they should be profiled. All young males should be profiled. They constitute the majority of douchebags
But that's not what's happening
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