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http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/martin-omalley-all-lives-matter/
"Democratic presidential candidate Martin O'Malley apologized on Saturday for saying "All lives matter" while discussing police violence against African-Americans with liberal demonstrators. The demonstrators, who were mostly black, responded by booing him and shouting him down."
O'Malley said, "I meant no disrespect. That was a mistake on my part. I did not mean to be insensitive in any way or communicate that I did not understand the tremendous passion, commitment and feeling and depth of feeling that all of us should be attaching to the issue"
The whole fucking place turned into a wild zoo with demonstrators going on the stage and this guy was probably fearing for is own life, and now he apologizes too them for being insensitive. 
The biggest PC Pussy Moron of the year award goes to you Martin O'Malley, if he was in charge of a dog kennel the animals would be ruling the place while he sits in the cage waiting for his next meal.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: qman]
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: qman]
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It was an idiotic move for somebody who is trying to build a coalition with black and brown people. I facepalmed even harder when Hillary said it, though. And now Bernie is struggling with it too. I expect this sort of colorblind naivete from dim liberals and conservatives, not presidential candidates. These people are not filling me with hope.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: zappaisgod]
#21980608 - 07/22/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Who the fuck is this guy Wtf why would he let people charge in an interrupt whatever the fuck that was. Is there no order at all nemore? No room for polite society in today's world? Ohhhhh I know who Bernie sanders is now that dewds ight he prob shouldn't run for pres tho
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Sophistic Radiance] 4
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Sophistic Radiance] 4
#21980622 - 07/22/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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BlindSophist said: It was an idiotic move for somebody who is trying to build a coalition with black and brown people. I facepalmed even harder when Hillary said it, though. And now Bernie is struggling with it too. I expect this sort of colorblind naivete from dim liberals and conservatives, not presidential candidates. These people are not filling me with hope.
So it's "idiotic" to say "all lives matter"? So only black lives matter and everyone else should just go fuck themselves?
I don't think so, he should of had those lunatics arrested instead of apologizing to them, O'Malley is just as stupid as the "demonstrators".
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: qman] 6
#21980629 - 07/22/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Black people need to calm down its embarrassing for everyone
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 4
#21980639 - 07/22/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: Who the fuck is this guy Wtf why would he let people charge in an interrupt whatever the fuck that was. Is there no order at all nemore? No room for polite society in today's world? Ohhhhh I know who Bernie sanders is now that dewds ight he prob shouldn't run for pres tho
Screaming, yelling at people, complaining and charging the stage is what these people do best. Guess what it got them? An apology.
When you reward uncivilized behavior, guess what you get more of down the road? More uncivilized behavior.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: qman]
#21980659 - 07/22/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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qman said:
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BlindSophist said: It was an idiotic move for somebody who is trying to build a coalition with black and brown people. I facepalmed even harder when Hillary said it, though. And now Bernie is struggling with it too. I expect this sort of colorblind naivete from dim liberals and conservatives, not presidential candidates. These people are not filling me with hope.
So it's "idiotic" to say "all lives matter"?
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So only black lives matter and everyone else should just go fuck themselves?
That's not what #BlackLivesMatter actually means at all. It means that black lives matter as much as white lives, not that they matter more.
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I don't think so, he should of had those lunatics arrested instead of apologizing to them, O'Malley is just as stupid as the "demonstrators".
He's not trying to appeal to people who think like you
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: qman] 2
#21980674 - 07/22/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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qman said: So it's "idiotic" to say "all lives matter"? So only black lives matter and everyone else should just go fuck themselves?
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Imagine that you're sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don't get any. So you say "I should get my fair share." And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, "everyone should get their fair share." Now, that's a wonderful sentiment -- indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad's smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn't solve the problem that you still haven't gotten any!
The problem is that the statement "I should get my fair share" had an implicit "too" at the end: "I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else." But your dad's response treated your statement as though you meant "only I should get my fair share", which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that "everyone should get their fair share," while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.
That's the situation of the "black lives matter" movement. Culture, laws, the arts, religion, and everyone else repeatedly suggest that all lives should matter. Clearly, that message already abounds in our society.
The problem is that, in practice, the world doesn't work the way. You see the film Nightcrawler? You know the part where Renee Russo tells Jake Gyllenhal that she doesn't want footage of a black or latino person dying, she wants news stories about affluent white people being killed? That's not made up out of whole cloth -- there is a news bias toward stories that the majority of the audience (who are white) can identify with. So when a young black man gets killed (prior to the recent police shootings), it's generally not considered "news", while a middle-aged white woman being killed is treated as news. And to a large degree, that is accurate -- young black men are killed in significantly disproportionate numbers, which is why we don't treat it as anything new. But the result is that, societally, we don't pay as much attention to certain people's deaths as we do to others. So, currently, we don't treat all lives as though they matter equally.
Just like asking dad for your fair share, the phrase "black lives matter" also has an implicit "too" at the end: it's saying that black lives should also matter. But responding to this by saying "all lives matter" is willfully going back to ignoring the problem. It's a way of dismissing the statement by falsely suggesting that it means "only black lives matter," when that is obviously not the case. And so saying "all lives matter" as a direct response to "black lives matter" is essentially saying that we should just go back to ignoring the problem.
TL;DR: The phrase "Black lives matter" carries an implicit "too" at the end; it's saying that black lives should also matter. Saying "all lives matter" is dismissing the very problems that the phrase is trying to draw attention to.
Quote source: https://np.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3du1qm/eli5_why_is_it_so_controversial_when_someone_says/ct8pei1
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Good quote.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Alan Rockefeller] 4
#21980685 - 07/22/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow that person has a twisted way of looking at things and is blatantly racist
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Sophistic Radiance] 2
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BlindSophist said: It was an idiotic move for somebody who is trying to build a coalition with black and brown people. I facepalmed even harder when Hillary said it, though. And now Bernie is struggling with it too. I expect this sort of colorblind naivete from dim liberals and conservatives, not presidential candidates. These people are not filling me with hope.
So it's "idiotic" to say "all lives matter"?
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So only black lives matter and everyone else should just go fuck themselves?
That's not what #BlackLivesMatter actually means at all. It means that black lives matter as much as white lives, not that they matter more.
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I don't think so, he should of had those lunatics arrested instead of apologizing to them, O'Malley is just as stupid as the "demonstrators".
He's not trying to appeal to people who think like you 
"It means that black lives matter as much as white lives"
Why did they almost start a riot when they he said all lives matter? Doesn't that mean that black and white lives BOTH matter? Yes it does, the fact of the matter is they are promoting the idea that ONLY black lives matter and everyone else can go fuck themselves.
"He's not trying to appeal to people who think (like you)"
That's an understatement.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying [Re: qman]
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qman said:
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qman said:
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BlindSophist said: It was an idiotic move for somebody who is trying to build a coalition with black and brown people. I facepalmed even harder when Hillary said it, though. And now Bernie is struggling with it too. I expect this sort of colorblind naivete from dim liberals and conservatives, not presidential candidates. These people are not filling me with hope.
So it's "idiotic" to say "all lives matter"?
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So only black lives matter and everyone else should just go fuck themselves?
That's not what #BlackLivesMatter actually means at all. It means that black lives matter as much as white lives, not that they matter more.
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I don't think so, he should of had those lunatics arrested instead of apologizing to them, O'Malley is just as stupid as the "demonstrators".
He's not trying to appeal to people who think like you 
"It means that black lives matter as much as white lives"
Why did they almost start a riot when they he said all lives matter? Doesn't that mean that black and white lives BOTH matter? Yes it does, the fact of the matter is they are promoting the idea that ONLY black lives matter and everyone else can go fuck themselves.
"He's not trying to appeal to people who think (like you)"
That's an understatement.
"All Lives Matter" is a shallow ploy to dilute the message of "Black Lives Matter" and to re-center dialogue on the supposed equality (which does not exist) with which all people are recognized and treated by institutions of power in the US. Democrats (mistakenly) use it to cut perceptions of racial discord within their coalition, and Republicans use it to actively deny that racial inequality exists at all.
In all cases, all use of the slogan "all lives matter" are reactionary bullshit. Nobody was going around saying "all lives matter" before #BlackLivesMatter was a thing because it's implicitly true of a civil society. It would be completely meaningless in any context other than downplaying, mitigating or attacking black outrage from the position of colorblind naivete (either genuine or affected) regarding white supremacy.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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qman said: So it's "idiotic" to say "all lives matter"? So only black lives matter and everyone else should just go fuck themselves?
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Imagine that you're sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don't get any. So you say "I should get my fair share." And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, "everyone should get their fair share." Now, that's a wonderful sentiment -- indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad's smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn't solve the problem that you still haven't gotten any!
The problem is that the statement "I should get my fair share" had an implicit "too" at the end: "I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else." But your dad's response treated your statement as though you meant "only I should get my fair share", which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that "everyone should get their fair share," while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.
That's the situation of the "black lives matter" movement. Culture, laws, the arts, religion, and everyone else repeatedly suggest that all lives should matter. Clearly, that message already abounds in our society.
The problem is that, in practice, the world doesn't work the way. You see the film Nightcrawler? You know the part where Renee Russo tells Jake Gyllenhal that she doesn't want footage of a black or latino person dying, she wants news stories about affluent white people being killed? That's not made up out of whole cloth -- there is a news bias toward stories that the majority of the audience (who are white) can identify with. So when a young black man gets killed (prior to the recent police shootings), it's generally not considered "news", while a middle-aged white woman being killed is treated as news. And to a large degree, that is accurate -- young black men are killed in significantly disproportionate numbers, which is why we don't treat it as anything new. But the result is that, societally, we don't pay as much attention to certain people's deaths as we do to others. So, currently, we don't treat all lives as though they matter equally.
Just like asking dad for your fair share, the phrase "black lives matter" also has an implicit "too" at the end: it's saying that black lives should also matter. But responding to this by saying "all lives matter" is willfully going back to ignoring the problem. It's a way of dismissing the statement by falsely suggesting that it means "only black lives matter," when that is obviously not the case. And so saying "all lives matter" as a direct response to "black lives matter" is essentially saying that we should just go back to ignoring the problem.
TL;DR: The phrase "Black lives matter" carries an implicit "too" at the end; it's saying that black lives should also matter. Saying "all lives matter" is dismissing the very problems that the phrase is trying to draw attention to.
Quote source: https://np.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3du1qm/eli5_why_is_it_so_controversial_when_someone_says/ct8pei1
"young black men are killed in significantly disproportional numbers...we don't treat all lives as though they matter equally"
Oh really, who's this "we" stuff? Who kills of all of these "young black men"? You got it, BLACK MALES.
"is trying to draw attention to"
No they're not, does the movement EVER focus on who's really killing young black males? No, instead they blame whitey and law enforcement, pathetic.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: Sophistic Radiance] 1
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BlindSophist said: It was an idiotic move for somebody who is trying to build a coalition with black and brown people. I facepalmed even harder when Hillary said it, though. And now Bernie is struggling with it too. I expect this sort of colorblind naivete from dim liberals and conservatives, not presidential candidates. These people are not filling me with hope.
So it's "idiotic" to say "all lives matter"?
Yes.
No it is not and the fact of the matter is that this saying came from a lie, i.e. that the scumbag Michael Brown was innocent and not a threat. Total lie. "Black lives matter" is racist.
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Re: Dem. Presidential Candidate Martin O'Malley apologized for saying "All lives matter" [Re: qman]
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