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crf3437
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what would cause this
#21980367 - 07/22/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: what would cause this [Re: crf3437]
#21980418 - 07/22/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Low humidity. And so the cake pins against the perlite where humidity is ideal. Instead of pinning on all sides like with a proper SGFC
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Don't mist so often either. If you have humidity issues you need to build a proper SGFC and soak your perlite more thoroughly before putting it in the chamber. It can take an hour or so to make a proper SGFC.
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I have about 100 pins and thats the only one like that. All other cakes are pinning from all sides and bottom. And this is a "proper sgfc" and there is 5 and a half inches on wet perlite in the bottom with no blocked holes.
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Re: what would cause this [Re: crf3437]
#21980514 - 07/22/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I mist 3 times a day only also.
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Re: what would cause this [Re: crf3437]
#21980518 - 07/22/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I took a garden hose to the perlite, its wet even now its damp to the touch
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Re: what would cause this [Re: crf3437]
#21980631 - 07/22/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The holes in your sgfc look wonky. They should be 2 inches apart in a grid like pattern on all 6 sides. Also, it looks too damp in there. That would explain why your mushy looks that way because it's not getting proper fae.
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As long as the holes are every 2 inches on all 6 sides, he'll be fine. Doesn't have to be super anal about it. Also the bottom holes should get poked to make sure they're not plugged.
They fruited down there because of the high surface humidity, not relative humidity. Surface humidity is what is important, if it gets dried up a bit, it needs to be misted. It must be dark and glistening at all times. Otherwise it'll just pin on the bottom where it'll have higher surface humidity. This is an indication you didn't mist it and the perlite enough. Not too much.
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Re: what would cause this [Re: Mad Season]
#21981068 - 07/22/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dripping water on the mushrooms and on the walls and you say he didnt spray enough? I think not.
If you have a proper SGFC the humidity will be at 95-100% and they will fruit everywhere. Not just by the perlite. That's what I've experienced anyway. Maybe the op's cake was just thirsty and needed a dunking.
Edited by impatientguy (07/22/15 05:05 PM)
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well he obviously took a picture of it when he just misted. I'm saying for the whole time it was in fruiting it wasn't misted enough. If it had proper surface hydration/humidity, it'd be pinning on the surface of it. I fruited these guys in literally 1-10% humidity. They just had good surface hydration.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21856836
obviously they're cracked from being dry, but that's because they're subjected to such harsh conditions. A proper sgfc can dip down to 50% relative humidity at times based on the rooms air currents. What truly matters is a constant surface humidity/hydration (replaced with misting) with a lower humidity around it. This with a maximum fae will cause a constant evaporation. Any info from 5 years to now will completely agree with this statement. What matters most is the eyes to know when it needs to be misted or not.
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Re: what would cause this [Re: Mad Season]
#21981136 - 07/22/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If your fc is at a constant 95 to 100 humidity then there is no need to worry about the "surface humidity" and in a properly constructed SGFC with no fans or windows open in the room the humidity will be at a constant 95 -100. So why the faceslap. Bro everything I've posted has been spot on. And your not suppose to mist until your shrooms are literally dripping. And yes they will grow in very low humidity environments but like I said in a proper SGFC you'll never have a low humidity environment.
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Its not splitting like that from dryness. Splitting like that is usually from fluctuating humidity. If its summer in your area and the AC is kicking on every 30 min that could be causing the FC RH to drop suddenly and then it comes back up fast once the AC shuts off. Same with winter and the heat.
Ensure that the SGFC is not near any vents and possibly close one of them if the room has several. Also ensure no fans are running as they interfere with the function of the chamber.
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You don't get it. With 95-100% humidity how will there be evaporation? Just think about it. Just saying a real sgfc is like rarely above 90%. 65-80 normally. This is why they dry out a lot and need misting a lot. This is their principle.
Just read this:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19279962#19279962 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542
Also in Florida it's not constantly 95%-100%. That is actually ridiculously beneficial for bacteria and as said before slows down evaporation. Also the fruits might be a bit wet, but the cakes look like they still need more. Still not even at the right darkness of proper hydration
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Re: what would cause this [Re: Mad Season]
#21981209 - 07/22/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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There will be evaporation when I take the lid off and mist and fan it. I live in dry-ass south dakota. And my SGFC is at a constant 95-100% humitity. That's why we mist and fan is for evaporation. I'm done nit picking now lol just feeling cranky. Have a good day
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Re: what would cause this [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21981212 - 07/22/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Its not splitting like that from dryness. Splitting like that is usually from fluctuating humidity.
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Re: what would cause this [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21981819 - 07/22/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said:
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Pastywhyte said: Its not splitting like that from dryness. Splitting like that is usually from fluctuating humidity.
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agar said: Split stems is most often caused by RAPID fluctuations in air temp & humidity. High humidity, then low humidity is what most often does it. You want to shoot for CONSTANT humidity.
The above quote from another TC was in this thread:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6229529
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Quote:
impatientguy said: There will be evaporation when I take the lid off and mist and fan it. I live in dry-ass south dakota. And my SGFC is at a constant 95-100% humitity. That's why we mist and fan is for evaporation. I'm done nit picking now lol just feeling cranky. Have a good day
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Re: what would cause this [Re: Buck513]
#21981867 - 07/22/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seriously buck.. it makes no sense right? How would you have evaporation just when you take off the lid? You especially wouldn't if you're misting it when you do LOL. It should have constant evaporation.
What makes you so certain it's 95-100 in "dry-ass south Dakota?"
Edited by Mad Season (07/22/15 08:24 PM)
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Re: what would cause this [Re: Mad Season]
#21981883 - 07/22/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I seriously doubt his humidity is 100%, or even close to it.
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Re: what would cause this [Re: Buck513]
#21981895 - 07/22/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah. Maybe 90 tops.
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