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Why i do not trip that much anymore
    #21980092 - 07/22/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So yeah...its not like tripping isn't fun anymore or anything like that...its just I always tried to use these chemicals as a teaching tool. It seems as if my mind on psychs knows exactly what my sober self needs to do. I wish at times that I could just trip for fun...but all my trips turn into "OK david...you need to do more of this...more of that...stop doing this so much...quit this habit..." its gotten to the point where I know exactly what I need to do in my life but I just cant seem to bite the bullet and do it. I mean I do it a little bit but I cant make habits out of them.

So really my trips are repetitive because the drugs just keep telling me the same things and refuse to give me the mystical thought-provoking spiritual trips..its like it quit giving me that at one point because it doesn't help me in my real life. the drugs are making me address these things..they are forcing me to grow up. They refuse to let me just enjoy a cool experience.

So now its like I just would rather not go into that headspace because I know the drugs are just going to bitch at me and make me feel even more guilty for not doing the things its told me to do. Its almost as if its saying "ok you don't want to listen to me and get your ass in shape? ok, then I wont give you what you want" which is a cool/enjoyable experience.

Its just so hard to change habits man. Im a lazy fuck, even though I haven't touched weed and have no excuse to be lazy other than me being born with hep C so ive now had it for over 24 years. and hep C's major side-effect is fatigue. Still that's no excuse. for some reason I refuse to eat right, spend more time with family, quit opiates 100%, exercise, and be more of a people-person and just enjoy life. These are all doable things but for some reason im just having a real hard time accomplishing these goals.

people can say "oh well you need a level 5 experience..that will get your ass into shape!" no it wont..these drugs do not change the man, they only show whats needed to be changed. Its up to the person to do the work.

I guess im just a selfish lazy bastard that wants the good stuff about psychs while not wanting to put the work in. But again, its not that simple. I just lack energy big time. Its so hard to change when you hardly have the energy to play with your own son for more than a half hour. Whenever im about to place that acid on my tongue or swallow mushrooms, or hit the DMT, something just makes me stop and think "you know this isn't going to help you, and you know you shouldn't be doing this right now. its not worth dealing with the anxious comeup just to see some stuff you already have for the most part experienced and be told what you need to do for the 100th time" then I just say "forget it" and don't go down the rabit hole.

Its almost as if  I need to force myself to do a psych, rather than wanting to do it because its fun and will benefit me.






Thanks for reading guys, I just needed to vent. Much love to all the supportive and open-minded respectful users on here :mushroom2:


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21980119 - 07/22/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Same thing has been happening to me too..quite frustrating

"look at it as forced conscious expansion"


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21980144 - 07/22/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Dude I know exactly where you're coming from. The only psyche that really motivates me on high doses is LSD but that's just during the afterglow and I only really stay motivated for a day or 2 :lol:

One thing I have found that I have consistently changed is my attitude towards others and how I treat them. So instead of saying "oh yea I could get that cash from them" or if I break something of theirs I could say "well I just won't tell them" now I find that I put myself in their situation and think about how I would want to be treated. That's one thing that drives me to take psychedelics is the compassion it shows me for other people.

I use to steal and all that jazz but now I'm making up for it by being a better me and fixing those wrongs that I did one step at a time.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21980186 - 07/22/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

perhaps micro dosing would be up your alley OP.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21980222 - 07/22/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What your talking  happens to alot of people.
Don't beat yourself up about it.
I have one friend that used to love shrooming every weekend.
His last trip he got obsessed that he really needed to wash
his dog in the middle of a cold night.So he was out in the yard with a hose scrubbing the poor thing. The poor dog was just looking
at him like what is wrong with you?

Another friend Loved shrooms more then anything. He would mention shrooms
in every conversation. Over time they started causing him more and more nausea.
by the end he found it very difficult to eat even a couple grams. Also his trips had changed from being about eternal love. His last trip he was obssesed that he had to clean everything. He was in the yard pulling up random plants, feeling bad thinking he was hurting them between repeated trips to the bathroom to try to vomit, failing, just shoving his finger down his throat to get it to stop.

The magic can wear off in a major may. Sometimes it's good to know when to jump ship.
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21980369 - 07/22/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think you're going too much into the spiritual side of these things

there's a time and place for that but lately I just flat out enjoy being on them.. they make life more fun and enjoyable no matter what you're doing

quit taking it so harshly or stop being a pussy i guess


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: cube talk]
    #21980767 - 07/22/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Dude, its amazing how I much relate to this.

Reading your post was like listening to my life, in your words.

I probably cant tell you something you dont already know. I like that.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: cube talk]
    #21980804 - 07/22/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have the opposite problem.

I trip with hopes to learn something, to get some greater understanding of life, or some kind of spiritual experience.

And every time, the trip says 'nah man, I'm just gonna give you the most intense euphoric pure bliss you could ever experience, with some nice visuals on top, sit back and have a great ride'

Not complaining I guess, I just don't understand why people bang on about psychedelics being spiritual tools and not recreational fun.
I try and use them as spiritual tools and all I get is recreational fun.

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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #21980840 - 07/22/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hey Bill,

I actually stopped reading your post after you said you can't seem to bite the bullet and integrate the psychedelic lessons you get.

I know that feeling.
I was at that exact same point in november.

I haven't tripped since and I started to force myself to change some habits. Habits are incredibly rigid motherfuckers. You need to be on top of them constantly. Not easy. It sort of got me to understand how people could see psychs as a shortcut to enlightenment. A cheat code. It doesn't really work that way. They teach, sure. They really do. But we still have to do the fucking work.

At this stage I have had 20 something therapy sessions and I'm finally seeing new habits and patterns emerge. It takes time. I built my old habits in 28 years. They are starting to fade after seven months. Sounds long, but in the grand scheme of things it's worth it.

I'm taking my first trip in seven months this saturday. Let's see how that goes. Are the new patterns really there? Or will the psychs show me the same lessons I have heard so many times and refused to integrate? I'm quite nervous about it. It will also be my first oral DMT experience.

I think psychs are just an incredible map. You still have to walk to your destination though. But hey, that gets easier the more detailed the map gets!

We'll get there.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21980852 - 07/22/15 04:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

One footnote:

habits = survival mechanisms.

It helps to imprint that they have served their purpose and to thank the habit for its service. Tell it it is no longer needed, but acknowledge that it has served you well for a long time.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21980856 - 07/22/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well my friend David has the same problem. He whent kinda insane and started talking to his computer. He didn't even know he was doing it I think research chemicals messed with his head.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21980873 - 07/22/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I actually think that the afterglow of psychs make it harder to do the work.

You sort of get all these lessons and then you feel like you've been taught a great deal. The afterglow then makes me complacent and makes it harder to take action.

Especially with LSD. It tends to make me laugh at the question instead of giving me an answer. If you know what I mean.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: thewanderer25]
    #21980884 - 07/22/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The mental changes psychedelics provide are easy to change..

The other psychical things yea.. You have to do work. 

So... Go on a walk every day for a week and trip?  Or even 2 days..  If you want to experience other levels of bliss, you must be able to clear this off your plate.  I think as soon as you clear this off your plate, you can then again enjoy.. OR.. Maybe you need to fix the next thing.

Either way, fuck you.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #21980903 - 07/22/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:offtopic: but is that 50 grams of crumble in your signature? Thats a lot of dabs. :asianofapproval:


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: thewanderer25]
    #21980915 - 07/22/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:offtopic: but is that 50 grams of crumble in your signature? Thats a lot of dabs. :asianofapproval:




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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21980941 - 07/22/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Definitely been there too Bill/David.

Its like i have these relevations on psychs about my life and  how i should change it for the better, but when i sober up, i forget about them or just plain dont follow thru like i should.

The message is so clear on LSD and shrooms but to do the change is so much more complex and takes a lot of motivation.

I believe that having high motivation will get you far in many aspects of life. Its the mechanism for sucess. Without motivation, nothing gets done, nothing changes :shrug:


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21980969 - 07/22/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Motivation is not an independent quality.

It is part of something. In some people it is part of compensating for something. It could be part of proving something. It could be part of feelings of injustice...

Probably a lot more.

The point is, you can't just view motivation as something that needs to be acquired in its own right. That's a recipe for disaster.

Viewing it as such will only send you on a massive guilt trip.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21981007 - 07/22/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think the only way to fix this is to listen to the psyches... they know best


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: cube talk]
    #21981107 - 07/22/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Try mixing different plants with whatever Psyche you decide to use. There's much potential in different plant concoctions and can give one different experiences or more consistent experiences. Different plants do different things.

Try perhaps adding some Lemon Balm to the mix, or taking a low/mild dose of a GABA-A agonist with your Psyche. Also one can try Mapacho Tobacco or an e-cig thing to see what Nicotine's effect on the experience would be, to me Tobacco seems to clear up the headspace, while Cannabis seems to make things deeper.

Also, something i wanna try sometime soon is adding a low to moderate dose of Amanitas with my Ayahuasca, and see if they're compatible with it. I smoked some Rue extract the other day a couple or so hours after eating 7 grams of dried Washington state Amanitas, and man things got REALLY visual, whereas Amanitas aren't really that visual to me, so far, by themselves, and while Rue does have some visual qualities, they aren't anywhere near the visual activity i saw with Amanitas in the mix.

My thing personally is to over time find plants that can work in synergy with Ayahuasca, to provide me with more of a stable, consistent and side-effect free version of Ayahuasca to use as a Life enhancer. Idk if i'll ever achieve that, idk if it's possible, and idk if it's work like i'd hope it would, but Ayahuasca is the perfect medicine for me (i have high functioning Autism/Aspergers) and on it i just feel better and more alive, so if i could make a user-friendly medicine out of it with little to no undesirable effects, i would no doubt see what it would be capable of doing for me in my life.

As for doing the work on oneself, yes one does have to do that, and it is indeed hard to do when sober compared to while on a Psyche, but it is doable, just go at it one day at a time and change things you think need to be changed, make your life better and healthier. I myself am lazy about things too, and while i haven't done as much work on myself as i should've so far, i have definitely done away with some undesirable things about myself or my life.

As long as ones mindset is in the right spot, and other tools or techniques are used during the experience to account for the variables and the factors that go into making the most of the experience that you can, you should be able to experience a wide variety of experiences, it doesn't have to be the same stuff over and over again. Experiment around, add other plants to the mix, even if it's LSD, Shrooms, Mescaline/Cacti or Ayahuasca, and see what all potential the combos are capable of. You might be surprised at what you may find.

On a side-note though, i can relate because i myself have had some issues with getting things to work properly sometimes, and i have had to pump myself up enough to take Ayahuasca compared to back in 2012 when i was all gung-ho about it and really went at it, but these days i'm really wanting to return to Ayahuasca like i did back in 2012, just re-approach it a bit differently than i did back then.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21981131 - 07/22/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think the experiences that show us we're out of balance are good. I don't trip that often either but on a couple I've felt the message that I don't deserve to be tripping and relaxing and distracting myself with entertainment.

A lot of people become focused on a few aspects of their life and neglect the others in self-destructive ways. For me too it's diet, exercise, family relations. It's hard to will up the power to cook or work out or visit someone, even when we know they'd benefit us in the long run.

Idk what I can say to make it easier, but it's okay to ask for help. I have a friend who's an excellent cook, but his vices keep him from applying himself fully too. So we hang out once a week to make healthy food and talk about stuff. I have another friend who's like 240 pounds of muscle, a body builder. Couple times a week we hang out to play baketball and frisbee, then toke and talk. I think we're meant to work together and share each other's strengths and weaknesses.

Still takes a ton of willpower to cook for yourself or workout alone though. Believe in yourself. :thumbup:


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #21981337 - 07/22/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:offtopic: but is that 50 grams of crumble in your signature? Thats a lot of dabs. :asianofapproval:




http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21901988



How many grams of bud did you run or was it pounds? That looks so tasty :crazy2:


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: thewanderer25]
    #21981351 - 07/22/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:offtopic: but is that 50 grams of crumble in your signature? Thats a lot of dabs. :asianofapproval:




http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21901988



How many grams of bud did you run or was it pounds? That looks so tasty :crazy2:




I will respond to you in a PM, you gotta stop posting on this thread about it.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Icon]
    #21981365 - 07/22/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

All those who have trouble integrating, micro dosing may help you. It has helped me in that department quite a bit.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #21981540 - 07/22/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah Bill, this is exactly why I don't trip much anymore either.


My life was really shit prior to my first trip, but they gave me hope in not just the world, but every single fucking thing on it. Life is too important to have your life be fucked. When I first tripped (was LSD), I went from solely focusing on how boring life is and how uneventful it is. All I ever did was sit on the computer all day, and mostly play fucking video games honestly. I had almost no friends, and I never went out of the house aside from shopping and sometimes restaurants.

When I was tripping though, I was amazed by every little detail there was in the room I was in, I kept asking whyself why the brain chooses to ignore so much visual stimuli...

Then I walked outside, and it was like an emotional orgasm... seeing sunrays through beautiful trees, hearing running water from a local creek, even the clouds... I NEVER noticed any of this before. I cried tears of... joy? sadness? fear? I don't know.... I just felt like I was reborn into the world as a new person.




My first trip was the most helpful one I had. It was the one that showed me just how magical and beautiful life can be, even at the worst of times. No longer was I a computer addicted, hopeless person that never found joy in anythig, rather I had a spark ignite in me that made me realize that life is so fucking incredible...


Every trip after that, the psychedelics helped me with smaller problems I still had to work on, some were subtle and some made me change my lifestyle, but at the end of the day it all made me a better person.



But now when I trip (noticed this the past 2-3 trips), I no longer come back afterwords with any insight or learning. I would spend these trips just listening to music and using other drugs to turn a once helpful psychedelic into a fun drug.





Right now, I can't imagine being happier with how I am living. Simple things like conversations with new faces and watching the sunset overload my brain with joy to the point where it can be overwhelming. Really everything makes me happy, and I love it. Some people would call it being fried, but I am in good mental health and I do not feel fried at all.


I love when shit hits the fan in life now too, because I love testing just how well I can cope with whatever is happening. When I come out of turmoil in the same positive mindset, it is reassuring to know that I can deal with problems appropiately now.












All that said, I doubt it will all be perminate. As time goes on, my brain will start to adjust back to the way it used to be, as it is in our genes. We humans have no evolutionary rivals, so the need for genes that cause us to be aggressive, fearful, and hateful no longer have a place.





I mean just look at the people who use psychedelics/weed and even MDMA. They aren't fucking junkies who want to numb life.... they are people who are expanding their mind and things such as the hippie culture and music culture are all because of it. I mean fuck, music fesitvals are the closest thing to a utopia that we have.... Everyone is watching each others back, everyone came for similar reasons, and everyone is happy. The ones who come to get drunk or are angry people to begin with quickly faze out as no one wants to be near someone like that when in a place as magical as a festival. I find simply going to a music festival (even sober) can cure even severe social anxiety, because the things that cause it in the first place aren't there. The people who go to these things have experienced the same mind expansion as you have, so you can rest assured there is no one judging you, pissing you off, killing the vibe, whatever might make a person feel bad.

If you go to a country festival or even a rock concert, it is totally different. The people there are usually drunk assholes who haven't tried any drug aside from maybe coke or meth.... Which is a reflection of normal society.






I feel like once people experience mind expanding drugs like psychedelics, they are forever changed.



There is a reason why the tv series "weeds" has the intro it does. The whole point of it is that weed is causing all the tv characters to break out of normal society's reigns and life an eventful life.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21981561 - 07/22/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i made it as far as washed dog in the middle of the night and then I lost my shit.. :lmafo: bbl..


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21981626 - 07/22/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
perhaps micro dosing would be up your alley OP.




:thumbup:

You don't need to be melting every time you dose.  If you know what you need to do and refuse to do it, perhaps microdosing a few days a week can get you in a routine and give you the motivation needed to better yourself.


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    #21981634 - 07/22/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #21981708 - 07/22/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Even low dose mushroom trips or acid are just screaming to me "get your shit together, look at all the room for improvement...stop being lazy...etc"...the low doses are actually worse because the whole entire trip is like that, not just 1/2 of or 3/4s.

atleast when I do big doses when im at the peak im not completely thinking of how I can better myself


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21981743 - 07/22/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You couldn't have put your post in better words gottaloveacid :raisemyglass:  enthogens won't fix everything in your life you ask them to do but if you even make ONE small change for the better it has made you an overall better person. There's no one quick fix with psychedelics.

Small things can make a great change in your life. Pick a piece of trash every day, say hello to one person that looks lonely, tell your mom/dad/family you love them, go for a walk and find 3 things you love about yourself instead of only looking at the bad.

There's beauty in the small things, don't try to become a monk and save the entire universe because you'll drive yourself absolutely mad like you're semi doing now just focusing on your faults. Think about the good brother


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21981766 - 07/22/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

^^ I see the truth in that..thank you


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21981850 - 07/22/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You couldn't have put your post in better words gottaloveacid :raisemyglass:  enthogens won't fix everything in your life you ask them to do but if you even make ONE small change for the better it has made you an overall better person. There's no one quick fix with psychedelics.

Small things can make a great change in your life. Pick a piece of trash every day, say hello to one person that looks lonely, tell your mom/dad/family you love them, go for a walk and find 3 things you love about yourself instead of only looking at the bad.

There's beauty in the small things, don't try to become a monk and save the entire universe because you'll drive yourself absolutely mad like you're semi doing now just focusing on your faults. Think about the good brother




Yeah, never forget: psychedelics are a tool for healing, not a magical fix-all cure.

As with all tools, you have to use them correctly to make them beneficial. Using a hammer to solder iron just doesn't work...

I do believe psychedelics help you most the first time you take it, so all it may take to change your life around is a little piece of paper or some weird mushrooms once, that is only 6-12 hours of your life, to solve even the most difficult and challenging issues you may face.


I hope in the future, psychologists figure out how to safely use these substances to guide even mentally ill people in such a manner that there is no risk to experience such a strong medicine. Right now our current understanding of these drugs is very little, so it is EXTREMELY important to take them in the correct mindset and location. If you are mentally unstable, just cross your fingers for hope that these drugs unpredictability can be overcome.

And yeah, don't fool yourself into thinking you have solved life's mysteries and think you are somehow a superior being, I have seen it happen quite often. These drugs can and if used right, will help you overcome the worst problems life has to offer. Don't think that since you finally fixed yourself of a huge issue that you are a god or something... It feels good to solve these problems but I highly doubt it is magic.

I know at times I have felt spiritually gifted after taking psychedelics and if I am tripping hard I might tell people crazy stuff like how I am some shaman here to save the world, but even though feeling cleansed within a few hours is really impressive, don't fool yourself - You took a drug, a pretty amazing and useful one, but a drug. Anyone can feel like you are enlightened with the correct setting and all, so even though it feels like it - you are not the first to experience that haha! There are hundreds of thousand of enlightened minds out there, trust me




I know it is stupid to say the whole world needs to do LSD once, but I hope in the next few years, those who need help the most will know by then of psychedelic's potential. Imagine how much less pharms would be prescribed, and how much more peaceful the world would be.... hopefully this dream comes true


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21982814 - 07/23/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's not stupid to say that at all man. Shit tons of people took LSD in the 60's and almost started a new world. I think we owe it to the chemical to give it another chance :heart:  :lsdabc:


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21982950 - 07/23/15 01:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I used to think, psychedelics were the be all and end all of life, until I got a strong slap from psychedelic themselves. I then figured out there were plenty of things to do other than popping a psychedelic or smoking weed. You don't need to do them very often, to benefit from them, with drugs the less is more. If the drugs keep telling you to do the same thing and refuse to give you a mystical experience, why are you not doing the things you have to do? Too many people get stuck on drug experiences and fail to look at other parts of their lives. Humans are obsessive in nature and tend to get stuck in only one part of life, there are plenty of amazing things to experience in life.

Take a good, long break from all drugs, and focus on the other aspects of life


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21983488 - 07/23/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So yeah...its not like tripping isn't fun anymore or anything like that...its just I always tried to use these chemicals as a teaching tool. It seems as if my mind on psychs knows exactly what my sober self needs to do. I wish at times that I could just trip for fun...but all my trips turn into "OK david...you need to do more of this...more of that...stop doing this so much...quit this habit..." its gotten to the point where I know exactly what I need to do in my life but I just cant seem to bite the bullet and do it. I mean I do it a little bit but I cant make habits out of them.

What the OP says is true: Take mushroom and it will pick up on everything you don't like about yourself, magnify it, and present it to you in living technicolor for your viewing enjoyment. Thing is, you probably won't enjoy it too much.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21984131 - 07/23/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It seems as if my mind on psychs knows exactly what my sober self needs to do




I know that feeling when the trip becomes all "we're not angry, we're just disappointed..." and starts to feel like a lecture from your inner self.

I find (with shrooms) that this usually restricts itself to the comeup, as part of the general anxiety. Instead of trying to make unrealistic promises to myself, I just try accept the way I am....and leave the self-improvement to when I'm sober. Like.... "OK, so I make some mistakes, I could do better, what's new?". I try to tell myself that I'm just human......I shouldn't be too hard on myself over trivial things. Then the trip moves on...

Also, if it's a hefty dose, it helps shift me out of this mindstate because day-to-day life soon becomes a kind of abstract notion. If the dose is right it takes me completely away from any consideration of my personal life into some kind of delusional sci-fi / mystical story. If I'm still thinking "I should exercise more" during the peak then I didn't take enough :lol:

There's no harm in tripping less often if you are getting the same insights every time and the whole thing is starting to feel less magical.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21984144 - 07/23/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I took a break from psychedelics for a few years. A good 5-6 years went by without eating LSD of any kind. I ate mushrooms a couple times during that time, but then quit eating those too. What you said is pretty much dead on. During my time off, I focussed on my career. I have a great trade and career, and I am self employed. I use to have the same thought patterns.

But now after spending to much time and energy on those things that I learned during my experiencing, I started eating LSD again this year after my hiatus. It's been amazing to the least. I have fun, it's light hearted, and therapeutic at the same time.

Perhaps really take the time to fix the things in your life. Spend a couple years doing it, and then come back to the psychedelics.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21984164 - 07/23/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Rebelutionsssss said:
Dude I know exactly where you're coming from. The only psyche that really motivates me on high doses is LSD but that's just during the afterglow and I only really stay motivated for a day or 2 :lol:

One thing I have found that I have consistently changed is my attitude towards others and how I treat them. So instead of saying "oh yea I could get that cash from them" or if I break something of theirs I could say "well I just won't tell them" now I find that I put myself in their situation and think about how I would want to be treated. That's one thing that drives me to take psychedelics is the compassion it shows me for other people.

I use to steal and all that jazz but now I'm making up for it by being a better me and fixing those wrongs that I did one step at a time.





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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21984182 - 07/23/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So yeah...its not like tripping isn't fun anymore or anything like that...its just I always tried to use these chemicals as a teaching tool. It seems as if my mind on psychs knows exactly what my sober self needs to do. I wish at times that I could just trip for fun...but all my trips turn into "OK david...you need to do more of this...more of that...stop doing this so much...quit this habit..." its gotten to the point where I know exactly what I need to do in my life but I just cant seem to bite the bullet and do it. I mean I do it a little bit but I cant make habits out of them.

So really my trips are repetitive because the drugs just keep telling me the same things and refuse to give me the mystical thought-provoking spiritual trips..its like it quit giving me that at one point because it doesn't help me in my real life. the drugs are making me address these things..they are forcing me to grow up. They refuse to let me just enjoy a cool experience.

So now its like I just would rather not go into that headspace because I know the drugs are just going to bitch at me and make me feel even more guilty for not doing the things its told me to do. Its almost as if its saying "ok you don't want to listen to me and get your ass in shape? ok, then I wont give you what you want" which is a cool/enjoyable experience.

Its just so hard to change habits man. Im a lazy fuck, even though I haven't touched weed and have no excuse to be lazy other than me being born with hep C so ive now had it for over 24 years. and hep C's major side-effect is fatigue. Still that's no excuse. for some reason I refuse to eat right, spend more time with family, quit opiates 100%, exercise, and be more of a people-person and just enjoy life. These are all doable things but for some reason im just having a real hard time accomplishing these goals.

people can say "oh well you need a level 5 experience..that will get your ass into shape!" no it wont..these drugs do not change the man, they only show whats needed to be changed. Its up to the person to do the work.

I guess im just a selfish lazy bastard that wants the good stuff about psychs while not wanting to put the work in. But again, its not that simple. I just lack energy big time. Its so hard to change when you hardly have the energy to play with your own son for more than a half hour. Whenever im about to place that acid on my tongue or swallow mushrooms, or hit the DMT, something just makes me stop and think "you know this isn't going to help you, and you know you shouldn't be doing this right now. its not worth dealing with the anxious comeup just to see some stuff you already have for the most part experienced and be told what you need to do for the 100th time" then I just say "forget it" and don't go down the rabit hole.

Its almost as if  I need to force myself to do a psych, rather than wanting to do it because its fun and will benefit me.






Thanks for reading guys, I just needed to vent. Much love to all the supportive and open-minded respectful users on here :mushroom2:





....... have you looked into the cure? I believe there's a new six-month treatment that something like 70% effective. If its your lethargy that's holding you back.

...... I feel absolutely horrible about tying you to the whipping post earlier! I really feel like you have some cool insights and would love to see you get healthy brother!

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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21984183 - 07/23/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I feel ya man,change is hard but its possible and it all starts by taking those small baby steps

I have to make certain changes in my life too, there are not easy, but i'm finally ready to make those changes towards progression and until then I have decided not to trip, you can too man, just don't be too hard on yourself, small realistic goals are very liberating when acheived,I wish ya well Bill :smile:


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: cube talk]
    #21984195 - 07/23/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I think you're going too much into the spiritual side of these things

there's a time and place for that but lately I just flat out enjoy being on them.. they make life more fun and enjoyable no matter what you're doing

quit taking it so harshly or stop being a pussy i guess





.... I think you're not going enough into the spiritual side of things! Keep it spiritual!


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: voodoochild1000] * 1
    #21984214 - 07/23/15 11:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

the past 2 years I have literally not smoked dmt once...mushrooms twice, and lsd once.

I think I may be running into this problem because when I trip I just sit and think. For instance, like above how I said I did LSD once during the past 2 years...I did it for the Super Bowl and had such a fucking fun time. I wasn't thinking about what I should do and didn't feel guilt. Had a pure recreational trip. I think I need to start doing mushrooms in nature and just start actually doing things while tripping. Maybe that will help solve my issues.

But yes, the past 2 years i have seriously only tripped 3 times. So im considering this my psychedelic hiatus. I mean its not like the magic is gone or anything...its just i tend to really dwell on the negative things because the shrooms are just yelling "dude life is so short what are you doing? you are going to regret wasting your 20s and eventually your 30s if you don't get off your ass" and im like "yes i know i know i know but i just don't have energy and hanging out with family gets boring because they don't like doing the things i like doing" then the mushroom starts getting on me about how everything isn't about me and i need to start living for others..etc.

damn mushroom...always has an answer for everything :lol:


thanks guys for all the feedback. damn i love this place..






edit: oh ya and voodoo...you want to hear how stupid i am? i actually had my fucking hep C cured because i did 1 full year of the interferon(the medicine youre talking about) but i relapsed on heroin and eventually re-infected myself. Im currently on the waiting list for the new hep c medicine which is like 90% effective and instead of needing to shoot up the drug in a muscle, you just take some pills


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21984231 - 07/23/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

Rebelutionsssss said:
You couldn't have put your post in better words gottaloveacid :raisemyglass:  enthogens won't fix everything in your life you ask them to do but if you even make ONE small change for the better it has made you an overall better person. There's no one quick fix with psychedelics.

Small things can make a great change in your life. Pick a piece of trash every day, say hello to one person that looks lonely, tell your mom/dad/family you love them, go for a walk and find 3 things you love about yourself instead of only looking at the bad.

There's beauty in the small things, don't try to become a monk and save the entire universe because you'll drive yourself absolutely mad like you're semi doing now just focusing on your faults. Think about the good brother




Yeah, never forget: psychedelics are a tool for healing, not a magical fix-all cure.

As with all tools, you have to use them correctly to make them beneficial. Using a hammer to solder iron just doesn't work...

I do believe psychedelics help you most the first time you take it, so all it may take to change your life around is a little piece of paper or some weird mushrooms once, that is only 6-12 hours of your life, to solve even the most difficult and challenging issues you may face.


I hope in the future, psychologists figure out how to safely use these substances to guide even mentally ill people in such a manner that there is no risk to experience such a strong medicine. Right now our current understanding of these drugs is very little, so it is EXTREMELY important to take them in the correct mindset and location. If you are mentally unstable, just cross your fingers for hope that these drugs unpredictability can be overcome.

And yeah, don't fool yourself into thinking you have solved life's mysteries and think you are somehow a superior being, I have seen it happen quite often. These drugs can and if used right, will help you overcome the worst problems life has to offer. Don't think that since you finally fixed yourself of a huge issue that you are a god or something... It feels good to solve these problems but I highly doubt it is magic.

I know at times I have felt spiritually gifted after taking psychedelics and if I am tripping hard I might tell people crazy stuff like how I am some shaman here to save the world, but even though feeling cleansed within a few hours is really impressive, don't fool yourself - You took a drug, a pretty amazing and useful one, but a drug. Anyone can feel like you are enlightened with the correct setting and all, so even though it feels like it - you are not the first to experience that haha! There are hundreds of thousand of enlightened minds out there, trust me




I know it is stupid to say the whole world needs to do LSD once, but I hope in the next few years, those who need help the most will know by then of psychedelic's potential. Imagine how much less pharms would be prescribed, and how much more peaceful the world would be.... hopefully this dream comes true





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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21984241 - 07/23/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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One footnote:

habits = survival mechanisms.

It helps to imprint that they have served their purpose and to thank the habit for its service. Tell it it is no longer needed, but acknowledge that it has served you well for a long time.





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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21984373 - 07/23/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I think I need to start doing mushrooms in nature and just start actually doing things while tripping. Maybe that will help solve my issues.




IMO, LSD or Mushrooms in nature for entire trip is so healing and therapeutic it's unreal. I wouldn't expect just one trip out in nature to sort things out (it may). But if you are like me, you need multiple doses in the woods before any real headway can be made.

Don't underestimate the power of music and the healing from vibrations. Checkout some tribal drumming, the kinda shit Mickey Hart (from the Grateful Dead) transcends into. I find this stuff immensely rewarding.


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: daytripper05]
    #21984377 - 07/23/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I took a break from psychedelics for a few years. A good 5-6 years went by without eating LSD of any kind. I ate mushrooms a couple times during that time, but then quit eating those too. What you said is pretty much dead on. During my time off, I focussed on my career. I have a great trade and career, and I am self employed. I use to have the same thought patterns.

But now after spending to much time and energy on those things that I learned during my experiencing, I started eating LSD again this year after my hiatus. It's been amazing to the least. I have fun, it's light hearted, and therapeutic at the same time.

Perhaps really take the time to fix the things in your life. Spend a couple years doing it, and then come back to the psychedelics.



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I took a break from psychedelics for a few years. A good 5-6 years went by without eating LSD of any kind. I ate mushrooms a couple times during that time, but then quit eating those too. What you said is pretty much dead on. During my time off, I focussed on my career. I have a great trade and career, and I am self employed. I use to have the same thought patterns.

But now after spending to much time and energy on those things that I learned during my experiencing, I started eating LSD again this year after my hiatus. It's been amazing to the least. I have fun, it's light hearted, and therapeutic at the same time.

Perhaps really take the time to fix the things in your life. Spend a couple years doing it, and then come back to the psychedelics.





...... totally bro! I went through a s***** part of my life and didn't do psychedelics for a decade! It's like they didn't make themselves available to me because they knew I didn't need them during that part of my life. It took years to get things straightened out psychologically and with my relationships! Then all of a sudden they showed up on my doorstep last November! My life is in a pretty good place now and feel relatively happy and comfortable! I have a great lady who I love very much and has made my life so much better! I feel that my psychedelic Renaissance is directly related to her love and caring!


..... I have then enjoying ritualistic focused mushroom trips every 2 weeks full moon and no moon since November. I feel like I've learned so much and continue to learn! I have also shepherded several people new to the experience! I've tried to teach them well and they are now lovers of the experience and psychedelic music! Especially the classic s*** like Floyd, Zeppelin, Grateful Dead! I've just totally watch these kids change before my eyes! From somewhat ignorant kids listening to their trap music! Too kind and caring thinking individuals with a great love and respect for the experience and its companion music!


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: daytripper05]
    #21984398 - 07/23/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I think I need to start doing mushrooms in nature and just start actually doing things while tripping. Maybe that will help solve my issues.




IMO, LSD or Mushrooms in nature for entire trip is so healing and therapeutic it's unreal. I wouldn't expect just one trip out in nature to sort things out (it may). But if you are like me, you need multiple doses in the woods before any real headway can be made.

Don't underestimate the power of music and the healing from vibrations. Checkout some tribal drumming, the kinda shit Mickey Hart (from the Grateful Dead) transcends into. I find this stuff immensely rewarding.





......nature..and Mickey...hell yeah!:bigyesnod:


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #21984404 - 07/23/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

any difference between moon and no moon??


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21984457 - 07/23/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Meditation singing bowls also basically turn up the volume on the trip. Visuals, mind fuck, all of it just amplifies with the bowls going. I have 2 bowls and tried to bring one out last weekend during my trip in a state park. We had to put that shit away cause it was going to get too weird too quickly for public eyes.


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    #21984786 - 07/23/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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any difference between moon and no moon??





.....good ?!.....hmmmmmm. ... to be honest I don't hit the exact date every time but I try! This last one was a couple days after the New Moon but I never saw it cuz it was behind the mountain all night! My god the Milky Way was so f****** beautiful! Right through the middle of the sky! On a remote hillside looking straight at a cascade peak!

... I can't say there is a definitive difference between the two. The moon trips maybe feel a bit more energetic and the moon life itself always had a really interesting touch. And then of course the stars during no moon are pretty fantastic especially this last one being at altitude! The sky was so clear and dark! This might just be me coming up with something but the moon seems more energetic and no moon seems more contemplative? Another thing might be it's a lot easier to bushwhack around and do s*** with the moonlight then when it's totally dark and you have to use your flashlight or move slowly in the dark but I tripped over a f****** rock last time and fell on my ass! Lol:vibin:


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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: daytripper05]
    #21984793 - 07/23/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Meditation singing bowls also basically turn up the volume on the trip. Visuals, mind fuck, all of it just amplifies with the bowls going. I have 2 bowls and tried to bring one out last weekend during my trip in a state park. We had to put that shit away cause it was going to get too weird too quickly for public eyes.





.....singing bowls!...gotta get 1...hang drum would be cool.....:bigyesnod:


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    #21985110 - 07/23/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21986614 - 07/23/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Have you tried 2cb?


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