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thewanderer25
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: MikeBearPig]
#21981337 - 07/22/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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but is that 50 grams of crumble in your signature? Thats a lot of dabs. 
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21901988
How many grams of bud did you run or was it pounds? That looks so tasty
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: thewanderer25]
#21981351 - 07/22/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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but is that 50 grams of crumble in your signature? Thats a lot of dabs. 
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21901988
How many grams of bud did you run or was it pounds? That looks so tasty 
I will respond to you in a PM, you gotta stop posting on this thread about it.
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Icon]
#21981365 - 07/22/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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All those who have trouble integrating, micro dosing may help you. It has helped me in that department quite a bit.
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly] 1
#21981540 - 07/22/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah Bill, this is exactly why I don't trip much anymore either.
My life was really shit prior to my first trip, but they gave me hope in not just the world, but every single fucking thing on it. Life is too important to have your life be fucked. When I first tripped (was LSD), I went from solely focusing on how boring life is and how uneventful it is. All I ever did was sit on the computer all day, and mostly play fucking video games honestly. I had almost no friends, and I never went out of the house aside from shopping and sometimes restaurants.
When I was tripping though, I was amazed by every little detail there was in the room I was in, I kept asking whyself why the brain chooses to ignore so much visual stimuli...
Then I walked outside, and it was like an emotional orgasm... seeing sunrays through beautiful trees, hearing running water from a local creek, even the clouds... I NEVER noticed any of this before. I cried tears of... joy? sadness? fear? I don't know.... I just felt like I was reborn into the world as a new person.
My first trip was the most helpful one I had. It was the one that showed me just how magical and beautiful life can be, even at the worst of times. No longer was I a computer addicted, hopeless person that never found joy in anythig, rather I had a spark ignite in me that made me realize that life is so fucking incredible...
Every trip after that, the psychedelics helped me with smaller problems I still had to work on, some were subtle and some made me change my lifestyle, but at the end of the day it all made me a better person.
But now when I trip (noticed this the past 2-3 trips), I no longer come back afterwords with any insight or learning. I would spend these trips just listening to music and using other drugs to turn a once helpful psychedelic into a fun drug.
Right now, I can't imagine being happier with how I am living. Simple things like conversations with new faces and watching the sunset overload my brain with joy to the point where it can be overwhelming. Really everything makes me happy, and I love it. Some people would call it being fried, but I am in good mental health and I do not feel fried at all.
I love when shit hits the fan in life now too, because I love testing just how well I can cope with whatever is happening. When I come out of turmoil in the same positive mindset, it is reassuring to know that I can deal with problems appropiately now.
All that said, I doubt it will all be perminate. As time goes on, my brain will start to adjust back to the way it used to be, as it is in our genes. We humans have no evolutionary rivals, so the need for genes that cause us to be aggressive, fearful, and hateful no longer have a place.
I mean just look at the people who use psychedelics/weed and even MDMA. They aren't fucking junkies who want to numb life.... they are people who are expanding their mind and things such as the hippie culture and music culture are all because of it. I mean fuck, music fesitvals are the closest thing to a utopia that we have.... Everyone is watching each others back, everyone came for similar reasons, and everyone is happy. The ones who come to get drunk or are angry people to begin with quickly faze out as no one wants to be near someone like that when in a place as magical as a festival. I find simply going to a music festival (even sober) can cure even severe social anxiety, because the things that cause it in the first place aren't there. The people who go to these things have experienced the same mind expansion as you have, so you can rest assured there is no one judging you, pissing you off, killing the vibe, whatever might make a person feel bad.
If you go to a country festival or even a rock concert, it is totally different. The people there are usually drunk assholes who haven't tried any drug aside from maybe coke or meth.... Which is a reflection of normal society.
I feel like once people experience mind expanding drugs like psychedelics, they are forever changed.
There is a reason why the tv series "weeds" has the intro it does. The whole point of it is that weed is causing all the tv characters to break out of normal society's reigns and life an eventful life.
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Edited by Gottaloveacid (07/22/15 07:16 PM)
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21981561 - 07/22/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i made it as far as washed dog in the middle of the night and then I lost my shit.. bbl..
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21981626 - 07/22/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: perhaps micro dosing would be up your alley OP.

You don't need to be melting every time you dose. If you know what you need to do and refuse to do it, perhaps microdosing a few days a week can get you in a routine and give you the motivation needed to better yourself.
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: cez]
#21981634 - 07/22/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: tryptkaloids]
#21981708 - 07/22/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Even low dose mushroom trips or acid are just screaming to me "get your shit together, look at all the room for improvement...stop being lazy...etc"...the low doses are actually worse because the whole entire trip is like that, not just 1/2 of or 3/4s.
atleast when I do big doses when im at the peak im not completely thinking of how I can better myself
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21981743 - 07/22/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You couldn't have put your post in better words gottaloveacid enthogens won't fix everything in your life you ask them to do but if you even make ONE small change for the better it has made you an overall better person. There's no one quick fix with psychedelics.
Small things can make a great change in your life. Pick a piece of trash every day, say hello to one person that looks lonely, tell your mom/dad/family you love them, go for a walk and find 3 things you love about yourself instead of only looking at the bad.
There's beauty in the small things, don't try to become a monk and save the entire universe because you'll drive yourself absolutely mad like you're semi doing now just focusing on your faults. Think about the good brother
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^^ I see the truth in that..thank you
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Rebelutionsssss said: You couldn't have put your post in better words gottaloveacid enthogens won't fix everything in your life you ask them to do but if you even make ONE small change for the better it has made you an overall better person. There's no one quick fix with psychedelics.
Small things can make a great change in your life. Pick a piece of trash every day, say hello to one person that looks lonely, tell your mom/dad/family you love them, go for a walk and find 3 things you love about yourself instead of only looking at the bad.
There's beauty in the small things, don't try to become a monk and save the entire universe because you'll drive yourself absolutely mad like you're semi doing now just focusing on your faults. Think about the good brother
Yeah, never forget: psychedelics are a tool for healing, not a magical fix-all cure.
As with all tools, you have to use them correctly to make them beneficial. Using a hammer to solder iron just doesn't work...
I do believe psychedelics help you most the first time you take it, so all it may take to change your life around is a little piece of paper or some weird mushrooms once, that is only 6-12 hours of your life, to solve even the most difficult and challenging issues you may face.
I hope in the future, psychologists figure out how to safely use these substances to guide even mentally ill people in such a manner that there is no risk to experience such a strong medicine. Right now our current understanding of these drugs is very little, so it is EXTREMELY important to take them in the correct mindset and location. If you are mentally unstable, just cross your fingers for hope that these drugs unpredictability can be overcome.
And yeah, don't fool yourself into thinking you have solved life's mysteries and think you are somehow a superior being, I have seen it happen quite often. These drugs can and if used right, will help you overcome the worst problems life has to offer. Don't think that since you finally fixed yourself of a huge issue that you are a god or something... It feels good to solve these problems but I highly doubt it is magic.
I know at times I have felt spiritually gifted after taking psychedelics and if I am tripping hard I might tell people crazy stuff like how I am some shaman here to save the world, but even though feeling cleansed within a few hours is really impressive, don't fool yourself - You took a drug, a pretty amazing and useful one, but a drug. Anyone can feel like you are enlightened with the correct setting and all, so even though it feels like it - you are not the first to experience that haha! There are hundreds of thousand of enlightened minds out there, trust me
I know it is stupid to say the whole world needs to do LSD once, but I hope in the next few years, those who need help the most will know by then of psychedelic's potential. Imagine how much less pharms would be prescribed, and how much more peaceful the world would be.... hopefully this dream comes true
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21982814 - 07/23/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's not stupid to say that at all man. Shit tons of people took LSD in the 60's and almost started a new world. I think we owe it to the chemical to give it another chance
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I used to think, psychedelics were the be all and end all of life, until I got a strong slap from psychedelic themselves. I then figured out there were plenty of things to do other than popping a psychedelic or smoking weed. You don't need to do them very often, to benefit from them, with drugs the less is more. If the drugs keep telling you to do the same thing and refuse to give you a mystical experience, why are you not doing the things you have to do? Too many people get stuck on drug experiences and fail to look at other parts of their lives. Humans are obsessive in nature and tend to get stuck in only one part of life, there are plenty of amazing things to experience in life.
Take a good, long break from all drugs, and focus on the other aspects of life
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21983488 - 07/23/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: So yeah...its not like tripping isn't fun anymore or anything like that...its just I always tried to use these chemicals as a teaching tool. It seems as if my mind on psychs knows exactly what my sober self needs to do. I wish at times that I could just trip for fun...but all my trips turn into "OK david...you need to do more of this...more of that...stop doing this so much...quit this habit..." its gotten to the point where I know exactly what I need to do in my life but I just cant seem to bite the bullet and do it. I mean I do it a little bit but I cant make habits out of them.
What the OP says is true: Take mushroom and it will pick up on everything you don't like about yourself, magnify it, and present it to you in living technicolor for your viewing enjoyment. Thing is, you probably won't enjoy it too much.
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21984131 - 07/23/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It seems as if my mind on psychs knows exactly what my sober self needs to do
I know that feeling when the trip becomes all "we're not angry, we're just disappointed..." and starts to feel like a lecture from your inner self.
I find (with shrooms) that this usually restricts itself to the comeup, as part of the general anxiety. Instead of trying to make unrealistic promises to myself, I just try accept the way I am....and leave the self-improvement to when I'm sober. Like.... "OK, so I make some mistakes, I could do better, what's new?". I try to tell myself that I'm just human......I shouldn't be too hard on myself over trivial things. Then the trip moves on...
Also, if it's a hefty dose, it helps shift me out of this mindstate because day-to-day life soon becomes a kind of abstract notion. If the dose is right it takes me completely away from any consideration of my personal life into some kind of delusional sci-fi / mystical story. If I'm still thinking "I should exercise more" during the peak then I didn't take enough 
There's no harm in tripping less often if you are getting the same insights every time and the whole thing is starting to feel less magical.
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21984144 - 07/23/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I took a break from psychedelics for a few years. A good 5-6 years went by without eating LSD of any kind. I ate mushrooms a couple times during that time, but then quit eating those too. What you said is pretty much dead on. During my time off, I focussed on my career. I have a great trade and career, and I am self employed. I use to have the same thought patterns.
But now after spending to much time and energy on those things that I learned during my experiencing, I started eating LSD again this year after my hiatus. It's been amazing to the least. I have fun, it's light hearted, and therapeutic at the same time.
Perhaps really take the time to fix the things in your life. Spend a couple years doing it, and then come back to the psychedelics.
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Rebelutionsssss said: Dude I know exactly where you're coming from. The only psyche that really motivates me on high doses is LSD but that's just during the afterglow and I only really stay motivated for a day or 2 
One thing I have found that I have consistently changed is my attitude towards others and how I treat them. So instead of saying "oh yea I could get that cash from them" or if I break something of theirs I could say "well I just won't tell them" now I find that I put myself in their situation and think about how I would want to be treated. That's one thing that drives me to take psychedelics is the compassion it shows me for other people.
I use to steal and all that jazz but now I'm making up for it by being a better me and fixing those wrongs that I did one step at a time.
.....fuck yeah bro.....that's powerful!
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21984182 - 07/23/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: So yeah...its not like tripping isn't fun anymore or anything like that...its just I always tried to use these chemicals as a teaching tool. It seems as if my mind on psychs knows exactly what my sober self needs to do. I wish at times that I could just trip for fun...but all my trips turn into "OK david...you need to do more of this...more of that...stop doing this so much...quit this habit..." its gotten to the point where I know exactly what I need to do in my life but I just cant seem to bite the bullet and do it. I mean I do it a little bit but I cant make habits out of them.
So really my trips are repetitive because the drugs just keep telling me the same things and refuse to give me the mystical thought-provoking spiritual trips..its like it quit giving me that at one point because it doesn't help me in my real life. the drugs are making me address these things..they are forcing me to grow up. They refuse to let me just enjoy a cool experience.
So now its like I just would rather not go into that headspace because I know the drugs are just going to bitch at me and make me feel even more guilty for not doing the things its told me to do. Its almost as if its saying "ok you don't want to listen to me and get your ass in shape? ok, then I wont give you what you want" which is a cool/enjoyable experience.
Its just so hard to change habits man. Im a lazy fuck, even though I haven't touched weed and have no excuse to be lazy other than me being born with hep C so ive now had it for over 24 years. and hep C's major side-effect is fatigue. Still that's no excuse. for some reason I refuse to eat right, spend more time with family, quit opiates 100%, exercise, and be more of a people-person and just enjoy life. These are all doable things but for some reason im just having a real hard time accomplishing these goals.
people can say "oh well you need a level 5 experience..that will get your ass into shape!" no it wont..these drugs do not change the man, they only show whats needed to be changed. Its up to the person to do the work.
I guess im just a selfish lazy bastard that wants the good stuff about psychs while not wanting to put the work in. But again, its not that simple. I just lack energy big time. Its so hard to change when you hardly have the energy to play with your own son for more than a half hour. Whenever im about to place that acid on my tongue or swallow mushrooms, or hit the DMT, something just makes me stop and think "you know this isn't going to help you, and you know you shouldn't be doing this right now. its not worth dealing with the anxious comeup just to see some stuff you already have for the most part experienced and be told what you need to do for the 100th time" then I just say "forget it" and don't go down the rabit hole.
Its almost as if I need to force myself to do a psych, rather than wanting to do it because its fun and will benefit me.
Thanks for reading guys, I just needed to vent. Much love to all the supportive and open-minded respectful users on here 
....... have you looked into the cure? I believe there's a new six-month treatment that something like 70% effective. If its your lethargy that's holding you back.
...... I feel absolutely horrible about tying you to the whipping post earlier! I really feel like you have some cool insights and would love to see you get healthy brother!
.....get to Maine or NH....MT.WASHINGTON area.....let nature begin to clense.....best wishes man!
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21984183 - 07/23/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I feel ya man,change is hard but its possible and it all starts by taking those small baby steps
I have to make certain changes in my life too, there are not easy, but i'm finally ready to make those changes towards progression and until then I have decided not to trip, you can too man, just don't be too hard on yourself, small realistic goals are very liberating when acheived,I wish ya well Bill
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Re: Why i do not trip that much anymore [Re: cube talk]
#21984195 - 07/23/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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cube talk said: I think you're going too much into the spiritual side of these things
there's a time and place for that but lately I just flat out enjoy being on them.. they make life more fun and enjoyable no matter what you're doing
quit taking it so harshly or stop being a pussy i guess
.... I think you're not going enough into the spiritual side of things! Keep it spiritual!
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