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when to use heat bath for DMT extraction?
    #21979354 - 07/22/15 08:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Title says it all basically. Exactly at which point do you use the heat bath? During the adding of the lye? Or when adding the naptha for your pulling?


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All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21979375 - 07/22/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It should still be warm from the boils when you add the lye and should be kept that way through the entire process.


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: SpaceWaste]
    #21979397 - 07/22/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Gotcha..so right after i mix the lye in put it in the heat bath. Should the water in the bath be at a simmer? Or is that too hot


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
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Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21979412 - 07/22/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If you cant hold the container to shake it then its to hot so no don't simmer but it should be kept close to the point of being to hot to hold


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21979415 - 07/22/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I use a heat bath during the acid bath and after I add the lye. I try to keep the temp below 140F, otherwise more of the plant fats will get into the finished product (even with a mini a/b). Then when I do my naptha pulls, I wait until the lye solution is at room temp and using HOT naptha (damn near boiling). Increasing the temperature increases the solubility of the solutes.


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: daytripper05]
    #21979423 - 07/22/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

How do you heat your naptha?

And can i just start pulling or is it really important for the lye mix to cool to room temperature?


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21979465 - 07/22/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

you can water bath your naptha as well and your likely to get fats regardless just re-x to clean it up I don't wait for it to cool but to each his own


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21979531 - 07/22/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'v read that by lowing the temp of the lye solution to room temp makes the DMT want to crash out easier. Then when it gets hit with the hot Naptha, it makes the DMT want to jump out of the lye and into the naptha quicker/more efficiently. By heating the naptha (non-polar layer) you are increasing the solubility of the solute (the DMT), and by cooling the lye (polar layer) it has the opposite effect (decreases the solubility of the DMT). Anyway... that's my logical reasoning for doing it.

I heat my naptha with my hotplate magnetic stirrer to be safe. A double boiler or water bath would work on an electric stove though, just don't use a gas stove or any flames.


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: daytripper05]
    #21979625 - 07/22/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If your pouring hot naptha into the soup are you not technically heating the soup? Seems kind of redundant, if you heat the soup with the naptha together you skip a step and heat one less container and effectively get the same outcome. You can also salt your soup to further polarize driving more spice into the nonpolar naptha. However I am no master of extraction and the fine people at the Nexus would surely have the answers your looking for. Good luck and be safe.


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: SpaceWaste]
    #21979667 - 07/22/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I salt my soup as well. And well the temperature does equalize pretty quickly, but from what I read (on Nexus) that this tends to increase your efficiency in each pull. I am pulling a solid 2% from my bark, so I know the process works. I do know for sure though, that more heat is no always better unless you really want to pull the fats out of the bark. 140F seems to be the sweet spot.


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: daytripper05]
    #21979680 - 07/22/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

When u saay "salt" your soup, do u use table salt (sodium chloride)?


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21979688 - 07/22/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No use rocksalt like you would to make ice cream table salt is iodized which is something you don't want in your spice


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21979695 - 07/22/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Non-iodized salt.

so yeah


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21979707 - 07/22/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Gotcha, thanks guys.

So u add the road salt right before pouring naptha into the soup?


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21979790 - 07/22/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

First is the acid phase, then the salt phase, then the defat step, then the lye step, then the pulling.


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21979910 - 07/22/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I guess maybe we should establish if your using mhrb or acrb for this extraction then maybe I could recommend a specific tek


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: SpaceWaste]
    #21979987 - 07/22/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

most of the time people work with ACRB nowadays


hey daytipper..does your DMT come out really fluffy or more condensed? Does 1 weighed out gram look bigger than say, a weighed out gram of cocaine or any other powder? Mine does(haven't used a heat bath yet) and im really trying to get denser crystals so me and others don't need to smoke piles of product for a breakthrough. 50mg of my crystals honestly looks like a .3 :lol:


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If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21980029 - 07/22/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Not that you asked me but yeah huge fluff and if your worried about volume needed just make changa its the answer regardless of the question


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: SpaceWaste]
    #21980062 - 07/22/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

^^ I don't understand what you mean by that...are you saying you get fluffy crystals as well? do you know if heat baths will fix this?


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All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: when to use heat bath for DMT extraction? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21980125 - 07/22/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I always use a heat bath and with acrb I follow thick-lights tek and always end up with huge fluffy crystals but if you make changa with your spice it should solve your problem of volume needed to enter hyperspace plus its more pleasant to smoke


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