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Re: Would you vote for Hillary? [Re: Le_Canard]
#21984072 - 07/23/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Le_Canard said: Considering what the Repubs are fielding, it's more than likely. I don't like her, but I like her more than I would a Bush or a Walker...
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Patlal
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Quewstion about Hilary.
What was her thing when Bill was President?
Right now Michelle's thing is fat kids and obesity
What was Hilary's?
What was Bush's wife thing now that I think of it?
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Re: Would you vote for Hillary? [Re: Patlal]
#22000620 - 07/26/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hillary's thing was single payer healthcare(if I remember right). I wish she would let us know what her current "thing" is instead of her thing just being campaigning.
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Patlal
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Re: Would you vote for Hillary? [Re: spock]
#22000837 - 07/26/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh yeah right, she was going for universal...
Sucks that she failed right?
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Re: Would you vote for Hillary? [Re: Patlal]
#22000886 - 07/26/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah, hillary was healthcare, laura bush was education, barbara bush was literacy, nancy reagan was drugs(just say no)
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Re: Would you vote for Hillary? [Re: ballsalsa]
#22000990 - 07/26/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: yeah, hillary was healthcare, laura bush was education, barbara bush was literacy, nancy reagan was drugs(just say no)
Hillary's healthcare push bombed by 1994 and played a big role in Gingrich taking control of Congress. After that, she was pretty much all about being the wife of a president that kept on cheating on her.
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Re: Would you vote for Hillary? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22001054 - 07/26/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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There's not a chance Hillary will go for single player now after the 8 year struggle for the ACA.
Who knows what her (fake) agenda will be? Maybe she'll ride the women pay equality wagon to secure the election for herself, then just fuck around for 8 years like Obama did.
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The Ecstatic said: There's not a chance Hillary will go for single player now after the 8 year struggle for the ACA.
Who knows what her (fake) agenda will be? Maybe she'll ride the women pay equality wagon to secure the election for herself, then just fuck around for 8 years like Obama did.
Obama would never of gotten single payer. The ACA was a first step right direction. People like having healthcare. The push for single payer will be easier. But yeah, I forgot about equal pay for women. Good cause but that is what hillary will try to ride for all it's worth. Peace Spock
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Re: Would you vote for Hillary? [Re: spock]
#22001598 - 07/26/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've been looking around trying to find out what she stands for. I know nothing about this sight but it gives an interesting story about hillary meeting Elizabeth Warren. " Clinton: Clinton has, at times, been critical of Wall Street, and she has slammed Republican attempts to roll back certain provisions of the Dodd-Frank financial reform law. But the candidate has had a long history of being cozy with America's financial elite: In fact, the top donors to her campaigns, from 1999 until 2014, include Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, and JP Morgan Chase.
The dollar figures do no, however, paint the full picture. And an anecdote Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) recounted to PBS's Bill Moyers in 2004 is likely instructive. Warren recalled how an op-ed she wrote about a proposed bankruptcy bill in the late 1990s impressed the then-first lady so much that she invited Warren to a meeting. Warren explained to Clinton the myriad problems with the legislation that swung power away from individual bankruptcy filers and toward big banks. At the end of the discussion, Clinton told Warren that they had to do whatever they could to kill the bill and, when it reached her husband's desk in shortly thereafter, it was slapped with a presidential veto. Warren was heartened, at least until the bill came up again in 2001 and Clinton, now a senator, voted for it. " http://www.dailydot.com/politics/clinton-sanders-2016-issues/
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Re: Would you vote for Hillary? [Re: spock]
#22017389 - 07/29/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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the idiotic thing is Hillary is a wealthy elitist who lives the very life that liberals "claim" to be against, yet she supports abortion on demand without limits, so the libtards will vote for her...FACT
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And the Teapublican they run will want to outlaw abortion altogether, along with contraception, etc., so the conservacrazies will no doubt vote for him. Fact yet again!
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Re: Would you vote for Hillary? [Re: Le_Canard] 1
#22018399 - 07/30/15 05:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Obamacare is a tax. Forcing healthy people to buy government mandated healthcare or face a penalty is not a step in the right direction. And good luck finding a job over 32 hours a week if you're unfortunate enough to not have one.
Hilary's "thing" was playing a good politician for future interests; and pretending herself and her husband aren't corrupt criminals.
The circle jerk in here is laughably ridiculous.
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Re: Would you vote for Hillary? [Re: El Torcho]
#22019072 - 07/30/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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El Torcho said: Obamacare is a tax. Forcing healthy people to buy government mandated healthcare or face a penalty is not a step in the right direction. And good luck finding a job over 32 hours a week if you're unfortunate enough to not have one.
Yes, it is a tax, and a market based solution to the healthcare problem. And if you qualify, you get government subsidies. And healthy people can sometimes get sick or injured. Be that as it may, who has gotten turned down for a full time job because of Obamacare? Next, you'll be trotting out the old "death-panel" argument. Obamacare sure beats the republican plan of "go die somewhere before you stink up the place".
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Hilary's "thing" was playing a good politician for future interests; and pretending herself and her husband aren't corrupt criminals.
Yeah, I really don't like like Hilary either. But hopefully we can get Bernie nominated.
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The circle jerk in here is laughably ridiculous. 
Why don't you go over to Fox "News" and join their little circle jerk then? And while you're there, you can pick up your Freedumb fries by the oven door.
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Re: Would you vote for Hillary? [Re: Le_Canard]
#22021701 - 07/30/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Le_Canard said: Yes, it is a tax, and a market based solution to the healthcare problem. And if you qualify, you get government subsidies. And healthy people can sometimes get sick or injured. Be that as it may, who has gotten turned down for a full time job because of Obamacare? Next, you'll be trotting out the old "death-panel" argument. Obamacare sure beats the republican plan of "go die somewhere before you stink up the place".
Lots of people don't have full-time jobs because of Obamacare. Lots of people have 'temporary' jobs because of Obamacare. Most retail and lower paying places don't hire full-time positions anymore. Lots of my friends, who supported Obama, are finding that out the hard way currently.
I shouldn't be forced to subsidize your healthcare.
Everyone dies. No doctor saves your life, they simply delay your death. Obamacare was written by the health insurance industry. They want business, therefore there will be no 'death panels'. Our healthcare is by far the most expensive, yet we are the sickest of the industrialized countries.
I don't utilize western, allopathic, treat the symptom doctors. I shouldn't be forced to buy insurance to cover such nonsense.
Obamacare made 'catastrophic' insurance illegal. It limits choice and freedom.
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Yeah, I really don't like like Hilary either. But hopefully we can get Bernie nominated.
I'd vote for Bernie over Jeb.
I'd vote for Rand over Hillary.
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Why don't you go over to Fox "News" and join their little circle jerk then? And while you're there, you can pick up your Freedumb fries by the oven door.
I visit many news sources.
If you get your news from a single source, or from a single bias, or even from a single country, you are a fool.
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Re: Would you vote for Hillary? [Re: El Torcho]
#22023353 - 07/31/15 07:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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El Torcho said:
If you get your news from a single source, or from a single bias, or even from a single country, you are a fool.
This is so TRUE! More Americans should seek out foreign news websites to get a feeling for how the rest of the world sees issues and stories.
I'm amazed how many people look for an echo chamber to tell them over and over and over what they already believe. You've got the Fox/Breitbart/Drudge tribe and the MSNBC/CNN/HuffPo crowd too ...
We live in a global world and you have a hard time understanding that if your entire world view is America Centric.
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El Torcho
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Re: Would you vote for Hillary? [Re: KauaiOrca]
#22044147 - 08/04/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's funny how the Dems are starting to realize how scandalous and toxic Hillary is to the general voter.
Better get dipshit Biden ready .... quick!
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Re: Would you vote for Hillary? [Re: El Torcho]
#22050255 - 08/05/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Le_Canard said: Yes, it is a tax, and a market based solution to the healthcare problem. And if you qualify, you get government subsidies. And healthy people can sometimes get sick or injured. Be that as it may, who has gotten turned down for a full time job because of Obamacare? Next, you'll be trotting out the old "death-panel" argument. Obamacare sure beats the republican plan of "go die somewhere before you stink up the place".
Lots of people don't have full-time jobs because of Obamacare. Lots of people have 'temporary' jobs because of Obamacare. Most retail and lower paying places don't hire full-time positions anymore. Lots of my friends, who supported Obama, are finding that out the hard way currently.
I shouldn't be forced to subsidize your healthcare.
Everyone dies. No doctor saves your life, they simply delay your death. Obamacare was written by the health insurance industry. They want business, therefore there will be no 'death panels'. Our healthcare is by far the most expensive, yet we are the sickest of the industrialized countries.
I don't utilize western, allopathic, treat the symptom doctors. I shouldn't be forced to buy insurance to cover such nonsense.
Obamacare made 'catastrophic' insurance illegal. It limits choice and freedom.
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Yeah, I really don't like like Hilary either. But hopefully we can get Bernie nominated.
I'd vote for Bernie over Jeb.
I'd vote for Rand over Hillary.
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Why don't you go over to Fox "News" and join their little circle jerk then? And while you're there, you can pick up your Freedumb fries by the oven door.
I visit many news sources.
If you get your news from a single source, or from a single bias, or even from a single country, you are a fool.
Agreed Paul>Trump>Cruz>Bernie>Bush>Clinton for me anyway
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