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moehd
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so i ordered spore
#21978266 - 07/21/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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they are now in transit delay they were supposed to be here 20th but it looks like its gonna take two more days
will the spores go bad not being cooled for that long
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21978272 - 07/21/15 11:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No they won't go bad. Search feature
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21978278 - 07/21/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No dude you're fine.
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21978279 - 07/21/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I never cool mine at all during storage. They're just sitting in a dark drawer.
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: Inocuole]
#21978287 - 07/21/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: I never cool mine at all during storage. They're just sitting in a dark drawer.
Same here.
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moehd
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: Inocuole]
#21978294 - 07/21/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh great now lets just hope theyre not crushed
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Inocuole
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21978299 - 07/21/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That... also probably wouldn't matter.
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: Inocuole]
#21978327 - 07/22/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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First time I bought a spore syringe the temps got up close to 110 degrees the day it was delivered. God knows how high the temps got sitting in my metallic mail box in the full sun. No germination whatsoever on the 10 jars I inoculated.
Maybe a bad syringe but that's the only time I've had a 100% failure rate from ms.
Unless you have a similar situation I wouldn't stress
Edited by ShroominMe (07/22/15 12:05 AM)
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Inocuole
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Well, okay, it's possible that if it sits in your mailbox all day at temps like that, it could be made significantly less viable. Not too many parts of the world get temps that high though. Granted, it's happened here, I just don't order heat-sensitive things in the summer. No spores or chocolate or mail order brides.
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Quote:
ShroominMe said: First time I bought a spore syringe the temps got up close to 110 degrees the day it was delivered. God knows how high the temps got sitting in my metallic mail box in the full sun. No germination whatsoever on the 10 jars I inoculated.
Maybe a bad syringe but that's the only time I've had a 100% failure rate from ms.
Unless you have a similar situation I wouldn't stress 
Damn sun
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Rebelutionsssss
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: nobody83]
#21978531 - 07/22/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You just ordered one "spore"
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moehd
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nah im watching the mail box like a hawk lol
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moehd
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21978865 - 07/22/15 03:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i thought itd come yesterday but i was at work so i put a frozen water bottle at the bottom of the mailbox when i came back my mail was cool XD
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21978872 - 07/22/15 03:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your spores will be fine without all that man unless you live on the surface of the sun
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moehd
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surprisingly today is the coolest day all week
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21979022 - 07/22/15 05:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The mushroom gods are smiling on you
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moehd
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Re: so i ordered spore *DELETED* [Re: ShroominMe]
#21979039 - 07/22/15 05:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21979306 - 07/22/15 08:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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moehd said: i thought itd come yesterday but i was at work so i put a frozen water bottle at the bottom of the mailbox when i came back my mail was cool XD
That's pretty slick idea there Mr.
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moehd
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: Matt87]
#21979349 - 07/22/15 08:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ty sir
Edited by moehd (07/22/15 08:18 AM)
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moehd
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21979592 - 07/22/15 09:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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and they are here
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21979631 - 07/22/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hope you got a still air box. Also, get some agar going. You'll have 10x more fun.
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moehd
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: Inocuole]
#21979637 - 07/22/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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too late i did it in a small room sprayed lysol everywhere
i fked up tho didnt leave enough spores for the last jar
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21979655 - 07/22/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah... I recommended that so that you could make that syringe last forever instead of running into problems like "not enough for the last jar". My AA+ syringe from last year has one drop missing from it and I've produced about 50-60 quarts of grain spawn with it in that timeframe. Not that I couldn't have done 200 quarts or 2000 if I wanted, but that's wayyyy more than I want to mess with.
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: Inocuole]
#21979671 - 07/22/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Or 20000
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moehd
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: nobody83]
#21979690 - 07/22/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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yea in the past i ordered from a sponsor his syringes were okay
but this guy is awesome he left a giant mass of spores and a high quality syringe ill try to refill it with my own spores and who know i might go on to grain but right now we play the waiting game
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21979700 - 07/22/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The waiting game AND the "will it contaminate due to the spores being dirty?" game.
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moehd
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: Inocuole]
#21979720 - 07/22/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: The waiting game AND the "will it contaminate due to the spores being dirty?" game.
annnndd im paranoid again
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21979745 - 07/22/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, nothing you can do now, no use worrying about what can't be helped. It's never too late to get into agar, you can take a single colonized grain from a finished jar and use that to keep your culture alive and continue expanding it, and then you can still use the jar to spawn to bulk.
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: Inocuole]
#21979934 - 07/22/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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not enough spores for the last jar sounds like a pf-tek OP to me. but common, you gotta believe you'll get at least 1 mushroom so you can take your own print op. I believe in ya!
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moehd
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im gonna try to get a print my im kinda of confused how is the print itself steril the fc inst sterile and after the spores drop whats stopping mold spores from falling ontop of it
does it gotta be under flowing sterile air?
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21979977 - 07/22/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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the print isnt sterile, that's why you're paranoid now re; the waiting and hoping game.
take prints inside your sab or at least cover with something. use very little spores each time = less chance of picking up a contam spore.
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21979983 - 07/22/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, you take the prints inside a still air box. They can still be dirty but if you expose the sterile foil for the first time inside the box, and then place the cap on there carefully, you can get a good print. You could pick a mushroom where the veil hasn't torn yet and tear the veil off inside the still air box so that the underside is fresh and clean before you print it. It still runs the chance of being dirty, of course, even doing all that. I don't know if there's such thing as a 100% clean print. Maybe if it's done entirely invitro but that would still rely on sterile technique for the printing itself.
Best way to handle the cap is probably to stab through it with something and hold it like that while you position it, just make sure you don't stab into the gills.
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: Inocuole]
#21980000 - 07/22/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: No, you take the prints inside a still air box. They can still be dirty but if you expose the sterile foil for the first time inside the box, and then place the cap on there carefully, you can get a good print. You could pick a mushroom where the veil hasn't torn yet and tear the veil off inside the still air box so that the underside is fresh and clean before you print it. It still runs the chance of being dirty, of course, even doing all that. I don't know if there's such thing as a 100% clean print. Maybe if it's done entirely invitro but that would still rely on sterile technique for the printing itself.
seems stright forward allright ill give it a go
now i cant wait to get some fruites
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moehd
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21980013 - 07/22/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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this was my last grow
b+ pf tek spawned to straw and horse poo
any one know that those white puffs forming at the bottom
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21980025 - 07/22/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks granular like trich to me. Fuzzy feet from low FAE is well...fuzzy lol. Maybe someone a little more wise than I will chime in though, I'm still pretty noobish so I could be wrong.
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Inocuole
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That looks like how mycelium sometimes reacts when you have a bad bacterial infection. Emphasis on bad.
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moehd
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: Inocuole]
#21980110 - 07/22/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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yea thats what i get for misting it when it wasnt even poking out
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moehd
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21980115 - 07/22/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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plus i opened it in the attic while i misted it
looking back now im surprised it lived
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21980143 - 07/22/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah that would cause the mist to grab every spore on the way down. Growing in the attic is bad news..
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moehd
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: Inocuole]
#21980185 - 07/22/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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hmm so even when i mist the pf cakes i should expect somthing like this
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21980204 - 07/22/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, not really, they should be resistant for the most part, just grow in the cleanest room in the house if you can.
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moehd
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: Inocuole]
#21980227 - 07/22/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ill try
thx for the help man
thx everyone
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: moehd]
#21980274 - 07/22/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you can catch up
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moehd
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Re: so i ordered spore [Re: nobody83]
#21980294 - 07/22/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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one month to go 
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