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BigPoppaNix
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Size of B+ at harvest 1
#21976430 - 07/21/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey guys! I am going through my first grow experience and just have a quick question. What is the average size of B+ when they are ready to harvest? Its pretty hard for me to tell in other peoples pictures but from what I can tell is that they are ready to pick right before the veil breaks. Mine little guys just seem so...little.
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TravelAgency
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You have no holes in your fruiting chamber. It needs holes in all 6 sides in a 2" grid. The lack FAE- and probably don't benefit from humidity fluctuations. Also, did you let them consolidat for 7 days after 100% colonization ?
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Those arent out of the ordinary for multispore cakes. A little on the small side, yes. But still acceptable.
Make sure your cakes stay hydrated and you provide plenty of fresh air. Most other factors will be attributed to genetics.
I bet the fruits on the next flush are a little bigger, they usually are.
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TravelAgency said: You have no holes in your fruiting chamber. It needs holes in all 6 sides in a 2" grid. The lack FAE- and probably don't benefit from humidity fluctuations. Also, did you let them consolidat for 7 days after 100% colonization ?
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Re: Size of B+ at harvest [Re: meowshroom]
#21976532 - 07/21/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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B+ can be anywhere from 1inch to over 12 has 0% to do with the name and everything to do with conditions and strain. Every two successful spores to mate is a strain. A cake has 100s if not 1000s of strains working together if you clone or isolate you can get a very good performance strain of the variety b+ but the name of a variety hardly means shit.
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BigPoppaNix
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Re: Size of B+ at harvest [Re: bodhisatta]
#21976564 - 07/21/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I did not let them sit after the jars were fully colonized! I guess I missed that step =/ I realize I need holes in the sides but I don't have a drill at the moment. This was pretty much just a fun little experiment that I have been thinking of doing for awhile! =)
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TravelAgency
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If you have a screwdriver and a flame you can get holes.
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Not bad for an experiment, just imagine what you can do when you're really working at it
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Re: Size of B+ at harvest [Re: Debob]
#21976629 - 07/21/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not to bad for what you had going on there
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BigPoppaNix
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Re: Size of B+ at harvest [Re: nobody83]
#21976651 - 07/21/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cool thanks guys =) I know I rushed a bit but I was trying to time it to have some fresh ones for my camping trip this weekend! I did not think of that with the screwdriver. I have blow torch sitting right in front of me to lol. Im on it!
Edited by BigPoppaNix (07/21/15 05:35 PM)
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nobody83
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Doing your self a favor
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Re: Size of B+ at harvest [Re: nobody83]
#21976793 - 07/21/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I always seen skinny little premature ejaculator mushrooms like that come up in the presence of bacterial contamination. Some of the other mushrooms that are developing look healthier.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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BigPoppaNix
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Here's a picture before I move them to make the holes.
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BigPoppaNix
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Wait so my stuff is contaminated?
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BigPoppaNix said: Wait so my stuff is contaminated?
Doesn't look like it contaminated yet, but you are lucky to get fruits in a setup like that. Try your best to get the holes like a true SGFC setup and you can expect to see a good second flush!
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BigPoppaNix said: Wait so my stuff is contaminated?
Doesn't look like it contaminated yet, but you are lucky to get fruits in a setup like that
agree he's crazy, he doesnt even have a drip shield!
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BigPoppaNix said: Wait so my stuff is contaminated?
Doesn't look like it contaminated yet, but you are lucky to get fruits in a setup like that
agree he's crazy, he doesnt even have a drip shield! 
NO DRIP SHEILED!!! 
Is that a temp gauge or hydrometer?
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Re: Size of B+ at harvest [Re: nobody83]
#21977050 - 07/21/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Woah woah! Now I dont have a drip shield?! The kits instructions were not very good im starting to realize... It is a both a thermo/hydro
Edited by BigPoppaNix (07/21/15 08:01 PM)
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Here is the instructions I followed. Sorry guys I didn't mean to do such a bad job! I didn't know!
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spacechildo
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heh, lol no it was a joke. back in the days we used aquariums and drip shields. mushrooms still grow even without holes in the chamber they just grow so much better with fae.
Basic principles of the sgfc the chmber with holes you gonna build
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The drip shield thing was a joke... At least i believe it was...
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I'm not saying OMG ur cakes are contamzorz throw away before your whole city is covered in green spores. Just that a small amount of bacterial growth somewhere in the cakes may have triggered them to produce gimpy fruit early.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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spacechildo said: heh, lol no it was a joke. back in the days we used aquariums and drip shields. mushrooms still grow even without holes in the chamber they just grow so much better with fae.
Basic principles of the sgfc the chmber with holes you gonna build 
Aaahhhhh the glory days
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Re: Size of B+ at harvest [Re: nobody83]
#21977165 - 07/21/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Grow kits are frowned upon. They are often prone to contamination and have outdated instructions. Don't worry about the drip shield thing, it's not needed. Just get the holes in the tub ASAP. Mist/fan and you're golden.
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Psilosoulful said: Grow kits are frowned upon.
LOL I swear sometimes the Shroomery is like MLB with all their unwritten 'rules'.
Don't bean me
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meowshroom
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Re: Size of B+ at harvest [Re: ShroominMe]
#21980503 - 07/22/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psilosoulful said: Grow kits are frowned upon.
LOL I swear sometimes the Shroomery is like MLB with all their unwritten 'rules'.
Don't bean me 

I don't know why people would frown on grow kits... Probably because it's just a lot cheaper to do it yourself... and so easy. PF tech tells you exactly what to do...
Grab a screw driver, and every 2 inches or so, get that sucker hot and punch a hole. Your small fruits are a direct results of bad FAE. They like still moist air that has O2 replacement. a SGFC works on the principle that one gas is heavier than the other, so the heavier gas pulls out the bottom, and fresh air gets sucked in through the top.
Or is it the other way around? Doesn't matter... it's what you need to do.
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Re: Size of B+ at harvest [Re: meowshroom]
#21980576 - 07/22/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Grab a screw driver, and every 2 inches or so, get that sucker hot and punch a hole. Your small fruits are a direct results of bad FAE. They like still moist air that has O2 replacement. a SGFC works on the principle that one gas is heavier than the other, so the heavier gas pulls out the bottom, and fresh air gets sucked in through the top.
Or is it the other way around? Doesn't matter... it's what you need to do.
They really don't look oxygen starved too me. Those fruits tend to have fuzzy disproportionately large stems with small, underdeveloped caps. These mushrooms are to scale, just small. Had two bacterial trays, both spat out tons of tiny fruits, refused to colonize the casing, and had soggy overhydrated stems. Genetics is another possibility.
OP, did the stems feel mushy and weak? This is another factor I noticed with bacterial fruits.
Not to say it's not a bad idea to finish his SGFC.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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jbaby007
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Get into agar and monotubs and you'll see some thickums for sure.
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Re: Size of B+ at harvest [Re: jbaby007]
#21980745 - 07/22/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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a SGFC works on the principle that one gas is heavier than the other,
wrong, gasses are infinitely miscible an in open atmospheric conditions no gasses we are concerned with settle out. co2 doesn't even settle out in inclosed 2500gallon fermentation tanks nor does it kill everyone working in a brewery from all of the active fermentation. co2 mixes, but does form a concentration gradient from the source. co2 in very high concentrations will "pour" out of a container but mixes extremely quickly with the surrounding air.
the principles of SGFC physics are in the second link in my signature.
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