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voodoochild1000
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Re: R u doing it Properly?........ [Re: Psilosoulful]
#21976854 - 07/21/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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..... straight up I'm no f****** genius that's for sure! People of course are entitled to do what they want for the most part.
... if love and having good intent and protecting nature are Dogma then I'm totally into that dogmatic b*******. I would have wrote those cuss words but voice to text wants to edit them....lol
... the entheogenic potential needs to be explored properly because there is great insight to be gained perhaps something far beyond our comprehension currently! The work of Rick Strassman excetra.
.....Plant teachers.....
.... I trip twice a month full moon and no moon. I smoke a little bit of weed and enjoy a lot of hiking! Not really into drugs or drug addiction and definitely not into RC's...... maybe some rare L if it's super high quality.... not sure if I'm falling into your classic drug addiction role model or not? Lol
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-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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Psilosoulful

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voodoochild1000 said: .... I trip twice a month full moon and no moon. I smoke a little bit of weed and enjoy a lot of hiking! Not really into drugs or drug addiction and definitely not into RC's...... maybe some rare L if it's super high quality.... not sure if I'm falling into your classic drug addiction role model or not? Lol
Shrooms and weed is all I need!!! Good job bro, stay away from the RC's, they are bad news.
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voodoochild1000
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Re: R u doing it Properly?........ [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21976884 - 07/21/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bigfeely123 said: I don't know if you realize this but you come off very arrogant honestly. Who are you to say what means something to others & what doesn't? You have your reasons as to why you trip just like I or anyone else have theirs. No one way is wrong because these substances effect everyone differently.
I've discussed the exact topic of ego death in a couple other recent threads when it was brought up. The process of getting to ego death is anything but fun. I am one in life who strongly identifies with my ego. I've tripped through the highs & lows of my life. I've had some difficult trips but my one & only bad trip that I ever had involved ego death & I can say with 100% certainty that it was the absolute scariest, most traumatic experience of my life. It literally feels like your dying. People who brag about ego death being fun or grand most likely have never experienced anything close to it.
It sounds like maybe your hanging out with the wrong crowd. If someone were to tell me how I should feel or what mindset I should have going into a trip I'd tell them to worry about themselves. Tripping for me is a very personal experience & I could honestly care less why or how you're tripping.
.....fair enough.... but I'm not backing off an inch on the nature thing!.... that part of the message was extremely clear! It comes from the earth!
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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Bigfeely123
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Re: R u doing it Properly?........ [Re: Psilosoulful]
#21976885 - 07/21/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't care what your position is on the subject but you seem to contradict yourself & that you're sort of on your high horse. First you say it's important to remember it's just an altered state of mind & you leave it at that. Then you talk about how the next day, when you're obviously not tripping still, that you have a more positive outlook on life & that it is very therapeutic.
How is that outlook any different from someone like me or anyone else who believes psychedelics have a higher meaning?
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Bigfeely123
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Voodoo, my comment that you quoted was directed towards ZeroBoyWD. Not you.
I like this thread but me personally I would've chose a different title.
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ZeroBoyWD
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Re: R u doing it Properly?........ [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21976904 - 07/21/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bigfeely123 said: I don't know if you realize this but you come off very arrogant honestly. Who are you to say what means something to others & what doesn't?
That depends on if we are talking about objective reality or subjective perceptions.
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I've discussed the exact topic of ego death in a couple other recent threads when it was brought up. The process of getting to ego death is anything but fun. I am one in life who strongly identifies with my ego. I've tripped through the highs & lows of my life. I've had some difficult trips but my one & only bad trip that I ever had involved ego death & I can say with 100% certainty that it was the absolute scariest, most traumatic experience of my life. It literally feels like your dying. People who brag about ego death being fun or grand most likely have never experienced anything close to it.
Claims of personal perceptions or experiences as being universal events.
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It sounds like maybe your hanging out with the wrong crowd. If someone were to tell me how I should feel or what mindset I should have going into a trip I'd tell them to worry about themselves. Tripping for me is a very personal experience & I could honestly care less why or how you're tripping.
Not people I'm hanging out with. People who discuss how to trip "right" or "correctly" or try to push any of that generic spirituality nonsense, thats who I was referring too.
And taking my general commentary this personally reaffirms you do let your ego run the show 
I don't buy into that bullshit that anyone is eating mushrooms "Just to learn about myself" Tripping is fucking fun.
-------------------- I'm done trying to be "right." I want the exchange of ideas to be the currency of my economy. If you have something I can use, great. I'll try it out. If you think my methods are shit, great. Don't use it. We all want yields.
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ZeroBoyWD
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voodoochild1000 said:
.... I trip twice a month full moon and no moon. I smoke a little bit of weed and enjoy a lot of hiking! Not really into drugs or drug addiction and definitely not into RC's...... maybe some rare L if it's super high quality.... not sure if I'm falling into your classic drug addiction role model or not? Lol
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You like McKenna, so probably
-------------------- I'm done trying to be "right." I want the exchange of ideas to be the currency of my economy. If you have something I can use, great. I'll try it out. If you think my methods are shit, great. Don't use it. We all want yields.
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voodoochild1000
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Re: R u doing it Properly?........ [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21976930 - 07/21/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bigfeely123 said: Voodoo, my comment that you quoted was directed towards ZeroBoyWD. Not you.
I like this thread but me personally I would've chose a different title.
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voodoochild1000 said:
.... I trip twice a month full moon and no moon. I smoke a little bit of weed and enjoy a lot of hiking! Not really into drugs or drug addiction and definitely not into RC's...... maybe some rare L if it's super high quality.... not sure if I'm falling into your classic drug addiction role model or not? Lol
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You like McKenna, so probably
.... a lot of McKenna bashing lately? He's no good for you but he had some really good quotes for sure! :-) I also believe in Led Zeppelin!
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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ZeroBoyWD
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Yeah McKenna babbled enough, a few of them were bound to sound good.
-------------------- I'm done trying to be "right." I want the exchange of ideas to be the currency of my economy. If you have something I can use, great. I'll try it out. If you think my methods are shit, great. Don't use it. We all want yields.
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voodoochild1000
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Yeah..... the title could have been worded a little more succinctly!
....oh yeah....I'm not a genius.....this is a good philosophical discussion! Namaste!
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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Re: R u doing it Properly?........ [Re: ZeroBoyWD] 1
#21976988 - 07/21/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're right, I should've never made it sound like it is all-inclusive perception. I just think a lot of times what people are referring to when they talk about ego DEATH is actually ego LOSS. Two different things.
WHO are all these people who discuss how to trip? You are obviously generalizing. & Where are you going that subjects you to such high volumes of "THIS IS THE RULES OF TRIPPING" propaganda? I think you're the one with the inflated ego that wants to "run the show". Remember... you were the one in the first place who, to put it shortly, claimed there is only one way & one way only to trip & that is for recreational purposes only.
Then don't fucking buy into it... Holy shit, no one is force feeding it to you you big baby.
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voodoochild1000
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Re: R u doing it Properly?........ [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21976995 - 07/21/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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ZeroBoyWD
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Re: R u doing it Properly?........ [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21977068 - 07/21/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bigfeely123 said: You're right, I should've never made it sound like it is all-inclusive perception. I just think a lot of times what people are referring to when they talk about ego DEATH is actually ego LOSS. Two different things.
Again, neither is accurate, your ego also makes up your personality. Without it you are basically catatonic.
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WHO are all these people who discuss how to trip? You are obviously generalizing. & Where are you going that subjects you to such high volumes of "THIS IS THE RULES OF TRIPPING" propaganda?
This is what I mean:
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Bigfeely123 said: I do treat the mushrooms with love & the utmost respect. I am not a religious person-as in I do not belong to any specific religion but I consider myself sort of "spiritual" if you want to call it that. A lot of times I will get down on my knees in a prayer-type stance before I dose & talk to the mushrooms/mushroom god(s) (whatever you wish to call them) & ask "them" to give me strength & knowledge during my adventure to the other side. .
You talk to fungus. Positive thoughtforms, sure, ok. But to get into a prayer stance and talk to dry mushrooms?
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Bigfeely123 said: I think you're the one with the inflated ego that wants to "run the show". Remember... you were the one in the first place who, to put it shortly, claimed there is only one way & one way only to trip & that is for recreational purposes
I said no such thing, I just said I believe claims that its a 'tool' are misguided.
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Bigfeely123 said: Then don't fucking buy into it... Holy shit, no one is force feeding it to you you big baby.
You seem to be very upset that I think your views on tripping are a load of shit. Instead of using ad hominem, do you want to discuss your actual viewpoint?
-------------------- I'm done trying to be "right." I want the exchange of ideas to be the currency of my economy. If you have something I can use, great. I'll try it out. If you think my methods are shit, great. Don't use it. We all want yields.
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Re: R u doing it Properly?........ [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21977091 - 07/21/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It is a Tool.....fuck yeah I pray to the mush before!...
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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Replace mushroom with heroin. Is it still an ok viewpoint to have?
-------------------- I'm done trying to be "right." I want the exchange of ideas to be the currency of my economy. If you have something I can use, great. I'll try it out. If you think my methods are shit, great. Don't use it. We all want yields.
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Re: R u doing it Properly?........ [Re: ZeroBoyWD] 2
#21977162 - 07/21/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Candle lit, lights off, 5 grams of cubes, headphones on
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Rebelutionsssss said: Candle lit, lights off, 5 grams of cubes, headphones on 
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Re: R u doing it Properly?........ [Re: Psilosoulful]
#21977195 - 07/21/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you haven't seen House of 1000 Corpses while tripping, do yourself a huge favor
-------------------- I'm done trying to be "right." I want the exchange of ideas to be the currency of my economy. If you have something I can use, great. I'll try it out. If you think my methods are shit, great. Don't use it. We all want yields.
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Re: R u doing it Properly?........ [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21977201 - 07/21/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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"This is what I mean" In what you quoted me saying, never once did I say it was the correct way to prepare. I was not preaching or telling people what to do. I was talking about what I do-simply answering one of the questions to the OP. NO... You misunderstood me by a long shot. I did not mean that I pray to the mushrooms as in the literal, tangible dried mushrooms.
This entire time I've been discussing my viewpoint your just too busy trying to prove why everyone else's way of doing things is wrong but yours. Which is impossible because its a subjective discussion. Your entire stance is tripping is for fun & recreational purposes only & anything else that is gained from the experience is a load of shit. How you are acting is the definition of arrogant.
I'm going to stop debating with you because all this has turned into is a pissing match. You have your way of doing things & I have mine. I apologize OP. Let's get the thread back on topic.
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Re: R u doing it Properly?........ [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21977246 - 07/21/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ZeroBoyWD said: If you haven't seen House of 1000 Corpses while tripping, do yourself a huge favor
I've heard of that movie, I saw The Devil's Rejects recently (i believe that's the sequel). It was intense and very gory, but nonetheless entertaining. I couldn't imagine seeing all that violence while under the influence of the mushroom, i feel like it would bring on a terrible trip instantly. Helll nooo. But while drinking, I couldn't give less of a fuck what I'm watching.
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