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Dr.Satan
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Are magic mushies legal anywhere?
#21974315 - 07/21/15 05:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've been surfing the web to try and find a country where they are legal, but I can't find any. I know there has to be a few out there. Anybody know of any countries where they are legal? I refuse to believe every country in the world has the same ignorant stance towards them.
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Spartan103
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Re: Are magic mushies legal anywhere? [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21974327 - 07/21/15 06:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Magic truffles are legal some places
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Leviticus969



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Re: Are magic mushies legal anywhere? [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21974499 - 07/21/15 06:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Theyre all good in Brazil
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Dr.Satan
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Re: Are magic mushies legal anywhere? [Re: Leviticus969]
#21974532 - 07/21/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Damn at least brazil is on point. I guess I should be happy spores are legal here, but it's hard to be when people are getting slapped with hefty sentences for cultivation in my country. It's truly ridiculous how drug laws get applied to plants like weed or a fungus like p. cubensis. I mean weed isn't dangerous and shrooms are only dangerous if you eat them and try to fly a plane or some shit
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Leviticus969



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Re: Are magic mushies legal anywhere? [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21974552 - 07/21/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its dangerous because society wants to make money off of you dieing and paying for man made chemicals that arent supposed to heal you but keep u dependent on said chemicals. In short, they want to be your local drug dealer and dont want any real natural competition that'll actually help you out.
Still, not saying all man made things are garbage but you get the jist of it. Oh yeah and they like making money off of non violent weed n shroom users for their corrupt system.
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Dr.Satan
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Re: Are magic mushies legal anywhere? [Re: Leviticus969]
#21974566 - 07/21/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
6Silent9Knight6 said: Its dangerous because society wants to make money off of you dieing and paying for man made chemicals that arent supposed to heal you but keep u dependent on said chemicals. In short, they want to be your local drug dealer and dont want any real natural competition that'll actually help you out.
Still, not saying all man made things are garbage but you get the jist of it. Oh yeah and they like making money off of non violent weed n shroom users for their corrupt system.
So true.
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rxb
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Re: Are magic mushies legal anywhere? [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21974587 - 07/21/15 07:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Coincidentiaoppositorum
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Re: Are magic mushies legal anywhere? [Re: rxb]
#21974625 - 07/21/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here's the thing, no species of mushroom is listed as illegal in the United states...
Stropharia cubensis, psilocybe semilanceata,etc...not listed or covered by any law.
However, psilocin and psilocybin are schedule I compounds and the mushrooms are considered the "container"
...here's what's messed up, all humans produce DMT, so are humans considered containers for scheduled substances as well?
If you take stropharia cubensis mycellium and inoculate the substrate with let's say, DET, the mycellium will produce 4-ho-DET, or say MET, they mushrooms would contain 4-ho-MET....if you could find a way to get the stropharia cubensis to only contain 4-ho-DET or some other 4-hydroxylated tryptamine, they would be LEGAL psychedelic mushrooms, as stropharia cubensis are not illegal...
Jochen gartz has a patent on this process, but I'm sure if it was a viable way for producing legal psychedelic mushrooms people would be exploiting it...it's probably an issue of the fungi still producing psilocybin along with the introduced tryptamines...
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Thayendanegea
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They're legal in my living room.
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T-Funkadelic
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Re: Are magic mushies legal anywhere? [Re: Thayendanegea]
#21974973 - 07/21/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thayendanegea said: They're legal in my living room.
Yep, pretty much everything I do they say is illegal, is legal to me. Just don't get caught.
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Coincidentiaoppositorum
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Re: Are magic mushies legal anywhere? [Re: Thayendanegea]
#21975036 - 07/21/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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*4-acetoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (4-aco-DMT) metabolizes into 4-hydroxy-N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (psilocin) in the body.
 4-aco-DMT is available for purchase online, and because it metabolizes to psilocin, May as well be seen as legal mushrooms...well legal psilocin anyway...
(*Though this has yet to be confirmed, there's really no other logical pathway for the compound to be following and there should be no surprises once the tests can be performed)
psilocybin is a pro-drug, meaning it's not active, but is metabolized into an active compound, psilocin being the active metabolite. 4-aco-DMT is speculated to be active to begin with and is then metabolized into another active compound, psilocin being the active metabolite in this case as well, which may explain the subtle differences between 4-aco-DMT and psilocybin...
(Any such ester, be it the phosphate, the sulfate, or the acetate, would all be easily split to the archetypal indolol by the ubiquitous esterases in the body -A. Shulgin; TIHKAL; 1997
Meaning that the sulfate ester of DMT should convert to 4-hydroxy-DMT (psilocin) just as easily as the phosphate or acetate ester.
Does a 4 substituted sulfate ester of DMT exist?
I don't know, but I can bet that it would metabolize into psilocin just as readily as 4-po-DMT or 4-ACO-DMT.
I'm willing to bet a propionyl ester of DMT, or some variation of it may metabolize to psilocin as well.
...all would be considered legal forms of psilocin)
I'm getting too far off topic though...
If you want legal psilocin, 4-aco-DMT would be your best option.
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Coincidentiaoppositorum
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4-hydroxy-n-methyl-n-ethyl-tryptamine (4-ho-MET) can be very psilocin like as well...
-E. Borodin
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