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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Cant deal with pansies [Re: Hippocampus]
    #22000303 - 07/26/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Cant deal with pansies [Re: saenchai]
    #22000521 - 07/26/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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saenchai said:
Yes, I understand you were not originally writing about me but I disagreed with your position. You were definitely addressing me in your last post.

If you can justify any capacity for effective self defense you have, you can't criticize anybody for developing that capacity within themselves to whatever level of effectiveness they choose to develop. Refusing to think about fighting and violence isn't a moral high ground, neither is dealing with the reality of its existence in the world.




I have not criticized you or anyone else who practices martial arts. I am simply not interested. But I disagree with you on the morality of it. It is a higher moral ground to participate in a non-combative life. I embrace non-violence, ahimsa, as a very high moral principle. I did not develop my personality imprinting Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris films. I know a Krav Maga expert (Moti Horenstein)*, and I know an Aikido expert locally, which of all the martial arts I find that one to be the most humane, but I certainly am not going to spend the time and money to become adept at it. I visited the Aikido teacher at his home once, and we used to be FB friends, but I do not mesh well with those whose personality is constellated around the Manipura chakra/Hara/Lower Tan T'ien, whether they are martial artists or aggressive lawyers, sports fanatics or cops. The entire Adlerian Will-to-Power trip, and a trip that seeks to cultivate Bodhicitta (Heart-Mind) or whatever one wishes to call being centered on Compassion, is like oil and water. I also notice a direct correlation with conservative politics (Republican and Libertarian) in many instances and this particular personality type.

A martial spirit also tends to be a way more extraverted stance than I embody. One might be reserved in one's actions, yet one always considers violent confrontation to be a real option. Obviously, if someone is coming at you, I find it acceptable to take evasive action just as I would on the highway if a car was coming at me. But I don't go into empty parking lots to practice swerving techniques in case a drunk or a cell-phone zombie crosses the white line. I do my thing, you do your thing. I have no thought to criticize you or anyone else about being martial. This is recognized in India, but unfortunately it became fossilized into the notion of caste. There ARE warrior types, and I do not identify as being one, even if I possess some potential for it. Only a grievously unfortunate event would elicit violent behavior for the defense of self or other. It is better for a psychopath to perish than a non-psychopath. :shrug:



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