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Fruiting problems
    #21974214 - 07/21/15 04:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So this has been in fruiting chamber for 10 day no pins,is everything looking good ??



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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: gljivur]
    #21974237 - 07/21/15 05:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I see orange in the red tray....but I'm not sure if it's a contam :confused:.And what temperature did you incubate at and did you drop it by ten degrees?Also what's your FAE technique,and is the humidity high enough?


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: mushieking]
    #21974243 - 07/21/15 05:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I fan it like 10 times a day,also that orange color in one tray i think thats what mycelium produce,nice shroomery smell.


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: gljivur]
    #21974247 - 07/21/15 05:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe too much Fae and not enough humidity use perlite,and fan 2-4 times a day because ten times seems quite excessive imo.


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: mushieking]
    #21974251 - 07/21/15 05:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ok i will try,i thought that fanning is the n1 pin trigger i could be wrong though


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: gljivur]
    #21974252 - 07/21/15 05:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well fanning does trigger but your substrate could dry out and make sure the temp is about ten degrees lower than inncubation temps.Next time you could try a cold shock maybe.


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: mushieking]
    #21974257 - 07/21/15 05:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

oh yes i forgot to say,its summer here and know temps are like 30 celzius and i really cant lower them,but they usually live in tropical and hot places  ?


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: gljivur]
    #21974278 - 07/21/15 05:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm you should be fine ....I'd invest in a new mini fridge for coldshocks and lcs.


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: mushieking]
    #21974282 - 07/21/15 05:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i heard about cold shocks,my strain is matias romero and itsays that it benefits from cold shocking also i heard that coldshocks are myth and notworking.Can i out whole terrarium in fridge or just trays ?


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: gljivur]
    #21974308 - 07/21/15 05:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Your FC doesn't look like it has any holes, try making a SGFC or minimono, no need for perlite and cold shocking is a myth no fridge needed.


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: motherchimp]
    #21974430 - 07/21/15 06:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's not needed and yup you always should go with sgfc...only reason I mentioned fridge was because he can't lower his temps.


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: mushieking]
    #21974657 - 07/21/15 08:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i cantreally make any holes but i do fan alot trough day and then i moist too not lose humidity


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: motherchimp]
    #21974678 - 07/21/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Your FC doesn't look like it has any holes, try making a SGFC or minimono, no need for perlite and cold shocking is a myth no fridge needed.




Coldshocking isn't a myth, it's just not needed for any standard cubensis. I believe UK liberty caps require (/benefit from) a cold shock to fruit.


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: nwalker248]
    #21974684 - 07/21/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

True its not myth but for cubies cold shock=no good


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: gljivur]
    #21974812 - 07/21/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah it is a myth. It was developed because you have to cold shock other edible species, as well as other cooler temperature mushrooms. Cubensis is a tropical species. In the wild it is always warm, so they don't need a cold shock. Anything tropical doesn't need a cold shock and won't benefit from one.

You also should have a proper sgfc. It's a chamber meant for maximum fae and less humidity (100s of holes) because you don't need high humidity. When the surface of the substrate looks dry/not damp, it needs to be misted. The key is proper hydration with misting and lots of fae.

Fanning doesn't replace fae. Tbh I don't fan ever. Fanning is ONLY done after misting to help evaporate the water you just added. If you had proper fae, it'll evaporate without the need of fanning.

Mushie was on the right track saying it is probably dried out, just saying humidity isn't the answer. When it's dry hit it with a mist

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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: Mad Season]
    #21974851 - 07/21/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ok i get it but how does azarius grow kit makes fae in bag with just holes on top and they still produce nice shrooms


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: gljivur]
    #21974886 - 07/21/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: Mad Season]
    #21974902 - 07/21/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Tnx very much i get it,can i poke bottom and side holes and leave lid opened a little ?If i dont poke holes will they still fruit ?


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: gljivur]
    #21974935 - 07/21/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

A small amount of holes near the surface of the tray/the lip of it and a large amount on top. That's the hole placement I recommend. If things are drying up too quickly or the kit feels too light when you pick it up, tape some holes up. That's why I like bag chambers. It's pretty easy to poke holes and use tape.

Mist when the tray isn't damp/shimmering anymore. After poking holes it'll dry out quicker too, so you will probably have to mist at least once a day


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: Mad Season]
    #21974966 - 07/21/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Tnx ,will see what i can do
Will update with picture if i see any pins.


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Re: Fruiting problems [Re: gljivur]
    #21975023 - 07/21/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds good :smile: key thing when misting is no pooling water. You don't want to over mist. It's better to undermist, and need to mist again in 6 hours, over having pooled water, and having to wait 2 days for it to evaporate.


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