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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Shining Cosmos]
    #21980724 - 07/22/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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That lawyers for multi-million dollar companies don't understand the law?




Apparently not.


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You're being quite confrontational and insulting my character. You've used more words to insult me rather than proving me wrong.




I assumed you could use Google.

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Are Police Allowed to Lie?
The question of whether or not the police may lie during the course of their work goes hand in hand with the question of entrapment.

It is well accepted that deception is often "necessary" to catch those who break the law. There is no question that police officers are allowed to directly mislead and/or deceive others about their identity, their law enforcement status, their history, and just about anything else, without breaking the law or compromising their case.5 Conversely, it is illegal for an ordinary citizen to lie to the police in many jurisdictions.

Are Police Allowed to Break The Law?
Police officers working undercover have exceptions from certain criminal laws. For instance, law enforcement officers directly engaged in the enforcement of controlled substance laws are exempt from laws surrounding the purchase, possession, sales or use of illegal substances.7

This means that there's no way to identify an undercover officer based on their willingness or refusal to use an illegal drug. Reverse stings are common in the enforcement of controlled substance laws. In a reverse sting operation, a police officer sells drugs that have previously been confiscated and then arrest the buyer.




https://www.erowid.org/freedom/police/police_info6.shtml


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21980734 - 07/22/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, you're right. My employers are wrong. There was no need to be a dick about it, though.


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Shining Cosmos]
    #21980737 - 07/22/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If you think that's me being a dick, you haven't read many of my posts.

The replies to you would constitute "dick extra-extra-lite".


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21980750 - 07/22/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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That lawyers for multi-million dollar companies don't understand the law?

You're being quite confrontational, insulting my character, and acting like this...:luvdemshrooms:



fixed...:peace:


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21980773 - 07/22/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

True. I should've guessed there was a good reason you had 30,000 posts


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21981371 - 07/22/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So it doesn't matter then if the person buying the beer also was a credit card thief and used that to buy it?

Do I say that he showed ID but it was fake ID? Wtf do I say or do?
He was still underage... and even tho the cameras aren't good that's still what they're gonna use in court. I did card him but his ID must have been fake. The other person with him had a fake ID too.




You said in the OP you didn't card him.

And no it doesn't matter the person buying the beer was a credit card thief, that is his deal. You sold to a minor.
Just because the person was shady or committed other crimes doesn't get you out of that.


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This isn't even the crux of the investigation. The phone number thing has LITTLE to do with anything at all. Its not important.




Yeah probably not. But still, what the fuck man. You gave him your number because you were scared? I cannot even comprehend.
What the fuck did he even want your number for? And why the fuck would you just give your number to a random drunken stranger who is buying beer in your store. It literally makes zero sense.


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Shroomism]
    #21981406 - 07/22/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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SpiritualWarrior said:
So it doesn't matter then if the person buying the beer also was a credit card thief and used that to buy it?

Do I say that he showed ID but it was fake ID? Wtf do I say or do?
He was still underage... and even tho the cameras aren't good that's still what they're gonna use in court. I did card him but his ID must have been fake. The other person with him had a fake ID too.




You said in the OP you didn't card him.

And no it doesn't matter the person buying the beer was a credit card thief, that is his deal. You sold to a minor.
Just because the person was shady or committed other crimes doesn't get you out of that.


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SpiritualWarrior said:
This isn't even the crux of the investigation. The phone number thing has LITTLE to do with anything at all. Its not important.




Yeah probably not. But still, what the fuck man. You gave him your number because you were scared? I cannot even comprehend.
What the fuck did he even want your number for? And why the fuck would you just give your number to a random drunken stranger who is buying beer in your store. It literally makes zero sense.



This whole thing reminds me of the scene in Goodfellas where they hijack
the truck and take the guys licsense.


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Shroomism]
    #21983159 - 07/23/15 05:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

SpiritualWarrior said:
So it doesn't matter then if the person buying the beer also was a credit card thief and used that to buy it?

Do I say that he showed ID but it was fake ID? Wtf do I say or do?
He was still underage... and even tho the cameras aren't good that's still what they're gonna use in court. I did card him but his ID must have been fake. The other person with him had a fake ID too.




You said in the OP you didn't card him.

And no it doesn't matter the person buying the beer was a credit card thief, that is his deal. You sold to a minor.
Just because the person was shady or committed other crimes doesn't get you out of that.


Quote:

SpiritualWarrior said:
This isn't even the crux of the investigation. The phone number thing has LITTLE to do with anything at all. Its not important.




Yeah probably not. But still, what the fuck man. You gave him your number because you were scared? I cannot even comprehend.
What the fuck did he even want your number for? And why the fuck would you just give your number to a random drunken stranger who is buying beer in your store. It literally makes zero sense.





They told me they had parties I could go to, and I was drawn into what he was saying. He was very seductive. I am also stupid and let them walk all over me like I usually do with people.

Honestly what I think needs to happen is they need to become more strict at how they teach people to card.


Edited by SpiritualWarrior (07/23/15 05:20 AM)


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21983202 - 07/23/15 05:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I get proofed every time I buy tobacco.
Store policy, so I have my DL in hand when I go in.:shrug:
(I don't buy alcohol anymore)

When in doubt, card the MFer.
And no more giving out Ph.# to random strangers, mmkay?

:goodluck: with this, and take this as lesson learned.
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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: vinsue]
    #21983240 - 07/23/15 06:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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vinsue said:
I get proofed every time I buy tobacco.
Store policy, so I have my DL in hand when I go in.:shrug:
(I don't buy alcohol anymore)

When in doubt, card the MFer.
And no more giving out Ph.# to random strangers, mmkay?

:goodluck: with this, and take this as lesson learned.
:moneyeyes: ...:peace:




Dude yeah, strangers are fucking bad news. I went into a strangers home yesterday an saw first hand just how fucking crazy they are. Dude, I'm not lying this guy had hand guns and showed me. He just wanted me to hang out with him and smoke some weed which I hit once or twice. I probably shouldn't have but oh well. My other store employee there said that guy was creepy. He didn't really come off that way to me at first but he certainly is. He was talking abotu how one of the new cashiers was and how she never was there when he walks in. Then he showed me what he does on his phone is look at "big tits". I'm like damn man. Then he had what looked like psyche medication on his couch side table. It was just a very uncomfortable experience.


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21983262 - 07/23/15 06:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry man but you sound like you're a little off and the people that you assosicate with sound psychotic. Do you by chance live in some bum fuck southern state like Louisiana or Georgia or some place like that? :lol:


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21983281 - 07/23/15 06:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No...Its near there tho. Its a southern part of a state... But yeah I didn't know the guy was like that, had no idea. He just drove a newer car and I followed him home after he asked me if I wanted to chill. I was at the store as he was buying something... I'm just a bored ass dude with nothing to do I couldn't help it.


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21983285 - 07/23/15 06:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What do you mean I'm a little off? Like wtf does that mean?


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21983307 - 07/23/15 06:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Don't go home with strangers. :nono:


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Sun King]
    #21983311 - 07/23/15 06:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I knew it. There drug scene down there is so strange compared to northern states. Bunch of cranked up hicks looking for the next oxy or line of meth. Be careful down there man, and don't go home with strangers


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21983355 - 07/23/15 07:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I know man its fucked up the ppl are fucked up as hell. I'm just learning that. Fucking wanna move away from here.


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21983410 - 07/23/15 07:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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No...Its near there tho. Its a southern part of a state... But yeah I didn't know the guy was like that, had no idea. He just drove a newer car and I followed him home after he asked me if I wanted to chill. I was at the store as he was buying something... I'm just a bored ass dude with nothing to do I couldn't help it.



Did he at least offer you popsicles and tylenol p.m.


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21983422 - 07/23/15 07:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

More like some GHB and a dildo


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21983424 - 07/23/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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What do you mean I'm a little off? Like wtf does that mean?



Hes asking if you have autism

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Rebelutionsssss said:
Sorry man but you sound like you're a little off and the people that you assosicate with sound psychotic. Do you by chance live in some bum fuck southern state like Louisiana or Georgia or some place like that? :lol:



Hey bruh chillout, I live in Georgia. Its really not that bad. Im in Atlanta though :shrug:


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21983439 - 07/23/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Big city's are a bit better.


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