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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21978204 - 07/21/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

But the cop told me that he would give me something lesser if I testified in court about the fraud.

Its not necessarily the fact that he was intoxicated and I sold him beer; its the fact that he crashed after I sold him beer.

To me he wasn't intoxicated. I could not smell it on him.


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21978223 - 07/21/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So it doesn't matter then if the person buying the beer also was a credit card thief and used that to buy it?

Do I say that he showed ID but it was fake ID? Wtf do I say or do?
He was still underage... and even tho the cameras aren't good that's still what they're gonna use in court. I did card him but his ID must have been fake. The other person with him had a fake ID too.



If it will put you at ease I doubt anything will come of this a hand writen number on a receipt that some cop found is barely an implication of guilt. FUCKIN MAN UP BITCH! :kingcrankey:


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21978232 - 07/21/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:facepalm: Cops will say ANYTHING that they think will get you to admit to something that leads to a charge.

The most tired and overused line by cops is "Just be honest and we'll go easy on you" or some variation of it. They never have any intention of going easy, and technically, it's not even their choice to make.


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Shining Cosmos]
    #21978324 - 07/22/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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And I work as a cashier as well. If you suspect it's an undercover and you ask "are you old enought to buy liquor?" they have to answer honestly. But normally the cops don't communicate with the store. They will just show up and arrest you.



That's gotta be bullshit. Sounds exactly like the old"you a cop" lime, that you supposedly ask anyone before a dug deal, and the cop HAS to answer honestly.:rolleyes:

People i have talked to cops, i even have one for a relative, and they have a said the same thing. Cops ccan say ANYTHING they want to prove you guilty, they can lie with absolutely no fallout on their end. Why do you think the first amendment is still a thing? Because this is the land of the free or something?:lol:


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21978589 - 07/22/15 01:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

WHY THE FUCK DIDN"T I HEAR THIS BEFORE I CALLED THE FUCKING COP GOD FUCKING DAMMIT


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21978618 - 07/22/15 01:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Don't beat yourself up over it too much. I mean yeah, most people here are going to berate you for talking to the cops and call you an idiot and all that shit.. But most people who say never talk to the cops, did at some point. They learned that lesson the same way you did, the hard way. You can try to drill it into people's heads to never talk to the cops, but the second they get into trouble and the cops start putting on the pressure, they're going to talk. They haven't seen the system work yet. They don't have the experience to take "don't talk to them" on faith. The cops will promise you your life will be so much easier if you just talk, and without seeing how those promises are never upheld, it's kinda hard to be in that position and not make that mistake.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21978720 - 07/22/15 02:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You said something earlier about someone caught in a sting keeping his job...
Do you think I will be able to keep mine?
I've not been fired yet and its been over a day after the cop called me. He also called the district manager to obtain my phone number...

You said something about surveillance video not being good enough evidence... Is this true?


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21978793 - 07/22/15 02:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I can't tell you if you'll keep your job. That' just up to corporate/managers. Chances are if this is your first real screw up, then yeah, you'll probably keep the job.

As for the video being the only evidence, well if it wasn't a sting (which it wasn't or you'd already of been in jail and unassumingly bonded out. They don't want days to move on a sting target. Around here if you sell to a sting operator, 5 minutes after they walk out the door, a cop comes in and arrests you on the spot) Then yeah it likely is the only evidence against you and if that's the case, it could be hard for the prosecution to prove you DIDN'T card them.

This is why you need a lawyer, to go over everything.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21978816 - 07/22/15 03:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Do you think a court appointed lawyer is good enough or should I hire a private one?


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21978830 - 07/22/15 03:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Man up bitch is right. Lol.


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21978884 - 07/22/15 04:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You can afford a private one? If so, retain one.
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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: vinsue]
    #21978892 - 07/22/15 04:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You could spend a shit ton of money on a good one and possibly get off with nothing or take an appointed one and get shit legal representation and loose. The choice is yours  :blueorred:


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21978971 - 07/22/15 05:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You said something earlier about someone caught in a sting keeping his job...
Do you think I will be able to keep mine?
I've not been fired yet and its been over a day after the cop called me. He also called the district manager to obtain my phone number...

You said something about surveillance video not being good enough evidence... Is this true?



Idk why the cop went to all that trouble to get your phone number. Apparantley all he had to do was make a purchase from your aisle.

Have we figured out why your number was written on the receipt?


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #21978981 - 07/22/15 05:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Let me say this one more time. The people buying the beer were NOT undercover. They were real world people... Thank you and have a wonderful day.


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21979001 - 07/22/15 05:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It wasn't liquor it was beer. I was scared and did was he wanted by writing down my phone number.




Your story seems to be changing as you go along.


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Sun King]
    #21979016 - 07/22/15 05:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So they bought beer and just demanded your phone number? My first reaction wouldn't be "well ok stranger! Here you go! :trippingsheens:"


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21979063 - 07/22/15 06:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Why are you guys keeping on picking at this I mean I know I fucked up I'm not gonnna do it again. Can you just leave it alone now?

I already felt like shit when I found out, why do you wanna make me feel worse? It was like a bad test is what it was and I failed. Lesson learned it won't happen again this time I'll keep a bat behind the counter and some mace in my pocket for unruly customers.

Dealing with strangers is new to me. I did not realize the criminal kind of people who come into the store until it was too late.

And yes, I'm kind of retarded for giving my number. It was compliance to people which made me do it. After all Dollar General's main philosophy is "serving others". I think it should say "To serve others... except minors, underage, the drunk and disorderly and the criminals, and especially not alcoholic beverages or tobacco."


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #21979087 - 07/22/15 06:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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But the cop told me that he would give me something lesser if I testified in court about the fraud.





How can you testify about the fraud? You don't know anything about the fraud.


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Sun King]
    #21979091 - 07/22/15 06:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

"Made me do it" you should have just said "no" and "get out of the store before I call the police"


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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Sun King]
    #21979094 - 07/22/15 06:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I was there when he used it. He made two purchases one for the beer and one for a pack of gum. Both times he withdrew 40 dollars cash back.

Supposedly it was because I was there to witness it and he wanted to know if I saw him sign anything. What I do remember is him using a pin number so it wasn't credit... But the cop could ahve been making it up to make me feel like saying something I shouldn't have.


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