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SpiritualWarrior
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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Brian Jones]
#21974268 - 07/21/15 05:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The man who got in the accident and bought the beer is a criminal. I just complied to his demands.
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Shroomslip
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SpiritualWarrior said: Witness to the no ID thing? The camera is the witness. He asked me if I ID'd him I said I thought I did. He didn't say anything after that.
When the DA has someone in on the operation to testify you didn't card them, it goes a lot further than what the camera shows. Like I said, get a lawyer. There are any number of holes to poke in the prosecution, especially when the only witness you didn't card is the camera. It's not a slam dunk dismissal, but it's not quite as damning as it would seem.
I wouldn't have given any answers to a question that could be remotely incriminating (like "I thought I did", that means you acknowledge you perhaps didn't) but you did, so just don't say anything further. Get a lawyer. Let him do any further talking to the cops. Don't even talk to co-workers or your boss about the case.
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SpiritualWarrior said: Another reason I want to say I thought this was a sting was that the cop called me on my cell phone number which I actually wrote down on the receipt to the person I was selling beer too. Lol dumbass right.
Why did you write your cell phone number on the receipt?
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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Sun King]
#21974307 - 07/21/15 05:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was going to ask the same thing. I just figured the buyer was hot...
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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Shroomslip]
#21974309 - 07/21/15 05:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay, so how do I find a good lawyer?
I just need to act like the guy who bought beer and used the stolen credit card was being belligerent.
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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Sun King]
#21974313 - 07/21/15 05:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sun King said:
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SpiritualWarrior said: Another reason I want to say I thought this was a sting was that the cop called me on my cell phone number which I actually wrote down on the receipt to the person I was selling beer too. Lol dumbass right.
Why did you write your cell phone number on the receipt?
Cuz idk, I wasn't thinkin...
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Sun King



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Yeah, I write my cell phone number on stuff by accident all the time.
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SpiritualWarrior said: Okay, so how do I find a good lawyer?
I just need to act like the guy who bought beer and used the stolen credit card was being belligerent.
Don't post about lying to the cops on the internet.
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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Sun King]
#21974328 - 07/21/15 06:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Beat me to it
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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: musiclover420] 1
#21974374 - 07/21/15 06:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can't testify as to what happened without incriminating yourself. If the cops need you to testify against the guy (which they do. You are the only witness to the guys condition and the credit card purchase) then you tell them you will not do it without them giving you immunity and no charging you. You need a lawyer.
Does the prosecutor want to gamble a win on a DUI and fraud conviction, just to give you trouble?
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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Sun King]
#21974651 - 07/21/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sun King said: Yeah, I write my cell phone number on stuff by accident all the time.
Subbed. I need to hear the OP elaborate.
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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: koods]
#21975495 - 07/21/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: You can't testify as to what happened without incriminating yourself. If the cops need you to testify against the guy (which they do. You are the only witness to the guys condition and the credit card purchase) then you tell them you will not do it without them giving you immunity and no charging you. You need a lawyer.
Does the prosecutor want to gamble a win on a DUI and fraud conviction, just to give you trouble?
I spoke to the cop again. It seems I will now have 2 warrants out for me, one of each of the underage persons by Friday. This sucks so bad I wish I'dnever got this job.
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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: musiclover420]
#21975502 - 07/21/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Beat me to it 
Why? How is it so important?
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moonrockmushy
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Wtf this whole story is weird.
Are you 100% sure these are cops? Maybe your state is different but I worked in a liquor store and this does not sound like how these sorts of investigations/stings happen.
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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21975528 - 07/21/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This isn't how stings go down, but this wasn't a sting operation. This is how the credit card fraud investigations go down, just this time the investigation turned up that OP broke the law as well.
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SpiritualWarrior said:
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koods said: You can't testify as to what happened without incriminating yourself. If the cops need you to testify against the guy (which they do. You are the only witness to the guys condition and the credit card purchase) then you tell them you will not do it without them giving you immunity and no charging you. You need a lawyer.
Does the prosecutor want to gamble a win on a DUI and fraud conviction, just to give you trouble?
I spoke to the cop again. It seems I will now have 2 warrants out for me, one of each of the underage persons by Friday. This sucks so bad I wish I'dnever got this job.
Never talk to the police
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moonrockmushy
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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: Shroomslip]
#21975581 - 07/21/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: This isn't how stings go down, but this wasn't a sting operation. This is how the credit card fraud investigations go down, just this time the investigation turned up that OP broke the law as well.
Oh ok I get it, so these are not undercovers he sold to, they used a stolen credit card then got a DUI.
That sucks OP, but you should have turned them down. If you felt threatened then say that but this seems like a situation where you need to talk to a lawyer. If you really can't afford that then talk to the court the first time you go and arrange a public defender. Until then talk to noone.
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SpiritualWarrior said: I spoke to the cop again. It seems I will now have 2 warrants out for me, one of each of the underage persons by Friday. This sucks so bad I wish I'dnever got this job.
Why in the hell are you talking to the cops?!?! Never, ever talk to the cops. Don't cooperate, don't call them back, don't answer their questions. Nothing good will ever come from you talking to the cops. If/when they arrest you ask for your lawyer and have your lawyer talk to the cops.
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s240779

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SW, how the fuck did your number end up on the receipt? Doesn't make any sense.
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moonrockmushy
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Re: Sold Beer to Undercover Need Legal Advice [Re: s240779]
#21975624 - 07/21/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I mean I think that is pretty good reason for an investigator to suspect that OP is in on it. That looks really bad, but the fact that he thought they were cops makes it seem like he didn't actually know.
Edited by moonrockmushy (07/21/15 01:16 PM)
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