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First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap)
#21973926 - 07/21/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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After about 5 months of mostly lurking, I have finally decided to start my first grow. I will be following PF Tek as shown in RR's videos. Although I do have access to a pressure cooker, I decided that BRF/Verm cakes would be a good place to start. I will edit this post over the course of the grow, so as to keep you good folks updated. I wish to understand this process fully and do the best I can. If anyone would care to criticize my work, it would be greatly appreciated.
::::CAKE PREP/STERILIZATION::::7/20/2015 Day 1:  My substrate was 2 parts vermiculite, 1 part BRF, and 1 part water. After mixing thoroughly, I added substrate until there was half an inch left from the top of the jar. I then wiped the jar lip so as to remove moisture. Next, I put a layer of dry vermiculite on top of the substrate. The lids of the jars have 4 inoculation holes made with push pins. The holes are covered in micropore tape. The lid is put on rubber side up. Two aluminum foil lids are placed on top of each of the 12 jars. These are my jars after sterilizing. To sterilize, I PC'd them for 45 minutes at 15 psi. After they cooled, I inspected each jar for moisture then labeled them A1-4, B1-4, and C1-4.  A-Row
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 C-RowAs you can see, my pet chimp forgot to add a layer of dry vermiculite to B4. I'll still give it a chance, but my hopes are not high. I will wait until tomorrow to inoculate as I am much too tired to now. ::::INOCULATION::::7/21/2015 Day 2: I woke up in the morning and immediately prepared my still air box. I wiped it and the surface I placed it on with iso. I then sprayed aerosol disinfectant in the box. After this, I placed the jars, syringes, and several paper towels soaked with iso in the box. I lit a candle next to the box and put on latex gloves. I then wiped my gloves and arms with iso. After this sterilization process, I proceeded to inoculate jars A1-4 & B1-2 with Golden Teacher (flame sterilizing the needle and wiping lids with iso in between each jar). Then, I inoculated B3-4 & C1-4 with Texas Yellow Cap. Unfortunately, the inoculation holes were slightly too small and I had to force the needle into each hole. My clumsy pet chimp broke a needle doing this. After I finished inoculation, I placed the jars back in their tray and stuck them in my closet. Also, I decided to place micropore tape over the inoculation holes of B4 since it lacks a dry verm filter. ::::COLONIZATION/CONSOLIDATION::::7/23/2015 Day 4: While inspecting my jars for abnormalities, I noticed this dark spot on B1.
 I'm unsure of what it is. I'm hoping it's just moisture and not a contam. On a side note, there are no signs of mycelial growth. However, I believe that this is to be expected seeing as it's only been a couple of days since inoculation. 7/24/2015 Day 5: There are now dark spots on B2 and C3 that are identical to the one on B1. I'm really worried. Should I toss them?
 8/4/2015 Day 15: After ten days of waiting, I decided to check on my jars. I noticed this big ass green mold spot on C1.
 I dumped it outside with the 4 other contaminated cakes.
8/9/2015 Day 20: Here is the progress of my 7 survivors: A1:
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  As you can see, three of my jars are pinning, but they still haven't fully colonized. I'm not entirely sure what to do in this situation but I have heard that it speeds up colonization to flip the jars over and tap them so that the cake falls down to the lid. I haven't done this yet because I want to double check first. I won't have my SGFC until I get paid this Friday. Any advice on what I should do with the pinning cakes? 8/10/2015 Day 21: Upon closer inspection, I have found pins in all seven jars. Since they're pinning already, I'm thinking consolidation won't be necessary once they're 100% colonized. I could be totally wrong about this, but I don't see it setting me back at all.  8/13/2015 Day 24: I birthed my cakes tonight at 11PM. After washing off the excess verm, I dunked A1-4(golden teacher) in one pot and B3, C2, and C4(texas yellow cap) in another. I attempted to weigh them down with a plate to fully submerge them like in RR's video, but the plate kept flipping over and ended up ripping off a few pins (including my biggest one  ). I ditched the plates and left the cakes partially submerged. Tomorrow, halfway through the soak, I will roll each cake over so that their other halves get to soak. I'm excited to start fruiting tomorrow! ::::FRUITING::::8/14/2015 Day 25: Too tired for details. Will edit tomorrow. Until then this pic should suffice.Not much to say that you can't see in RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms. From today onward i followed it to a T. I fan once every couple of hours and mist whenever they seem dry and before I go to work/bed. I also make sure to mist first then fan. The front row of 4 are golden teachers and the back 3 are texas yellow cap.  8/18/2015 Day 29: They seem to prefer growing towards the perlite? Not sure what this means. Maybe they want moisture?  8/19/2015 Day 30: One of my shrooms matured today   It weighed out at 8.49g. The cap is pretty small. I need to increase FAE so I've doubled up on fanning. I'm taking a print from the cap   This guy should be ready soon. The veil looks pretty cool. It's hard to tell in the pic, but it's fairly translucent and it looks cool with a light shining on it. Those dark specks are little bits of verm that got on the pin during the roll.  8/20/2015 Day 31: This mornings harvest + aborts. I'm not sure about that dark spot on the cap to the right. There is another one on the top left cap but it isn't visible in this picture. Weight 25.36g  A couple more matured today, weighing 12.2g and 1.5g  I think this guy is mutated  8/21/2015 Day 32: This mornings harvest:  27.19g Taking more prints ::::RESULTS::::
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: HuskyHonkey]
#21974006 - 07/21/15 01:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your pet chimp? If that's another SWIM thing that isn't used on here. We grow mushrooms, not our pets, SWIM, AFOA, etc. I'm assuming it was a joke though. In any case I'm excited to see the grow log and the progress, even if it's PF Tek. I used that my first grow and it was weakkk. I found http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18135103#18135103 violet's V-TEK to be much easier and have much greater yields. Give it a try the next go around, a lot easier to keep it contam free as opposed to cakes.
Cakes do look super awesome when you have a great flush on them coming out of ever part of the thing though, I'll give it that. Also substituting WBS flour into the PF Tek give extra nutrients and bigger yields IME. Good luck!
-MIM
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: MagicInMichigan]
#21975601 - 07/21/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Log Updated - Day 2
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MagicInMichigan said: Your pet chimp? If that's another SWIM thing that isn't used on here. We grow mushrooms, not our pets, SWIM, AFOA, etc. I'm assuming it was a joke though. In any case I'm excited to see the grow log and the progress, even if it's PF Tek. I used that my first grow and it was weakkk. I found http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18135103#18135103 violet's V-TEK to be much easier and have much greater yields. Give it a try the next go around, a lot easier to keep it contam free as opposed to cakes.
Cakes do look super awesome when you have a great flush on them coming out of ever part of the thing though, I'll give it that. Also substituting WBS flour into the PF Tek give extra nutrients and bigger yields IME. Good luck!
-MIM
Firstly, thank you for taking interest in my grow. I have actually heard about using WBSF in cakes, but decided against it because I already had BRF. Thanks for the link. I will definitely attempt V-TEK next time.
Believe it or not, I do actually have a pet chimp who will be assisting me with this grow. It is safe to assume that any flaw in my procedure is entirely his fault.
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: HuskyHonkey]
#21975653 - 07/21/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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pet chimp
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: nobody83]
#21976634 - 07/21/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Update: Fixed pictures
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: HuskyHonkey]
#21976643 - 07/21/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It would be bad ass if your chimp grew for you
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: nobody83]
#21976669 - 07/21/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Unfortunately, I can't trust him to grow alone without contaminating everything. Hopefully with more experience, though.
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: HuskyHonkey]
#21976717 - 07/21/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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One day your going to come home and he's going to be wearing a lab coat with glasses and a clipboard monitoring experiments with five different species going throwing feces at you to leave because you might contaminate his projects
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: nobody83]
#21976741 - 07/21/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow. Stereotype much? Just because he's a chimp doesn't mean he flings poo. This is the 21st century. I thought bigots like yourself died out in the middle ages.
All jokes aside, do you have any advice/criticism?
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: HuskyHonkey]
#21976839 - 07/21/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Streotype much? You bet your sweet ass i do!
But all jokes aside, to me everything seems to be in order except the verm thing which you already know... I will add that you should use soap water to spray the walls andfloor with instead of iso andjust use that to wipe tools and stuff with, it will save you some, and ditch the lysol it really isn't needed but to each his own.
I dont know if you did this or not as you didn't specify, did you let the air settle for about ten minutes afteryou loaded your box and shut off all air circulation about an hour or two before you loaded your box?
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: HuskyHonkey]
#21976889 - 07/21/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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HuskyHonkey said: Log Updated - Day 2
Firstly, thank you for taking interest in my grow. I have actually heard about using WBSF in cakes, but decided against it because I already had BRF. Thanks for the link. I will definitely attempt V-TEK next time.
Believe it or not, I do actually have a pet chimp who will be assisting me with this grow. It is safe to assume that any flaw in my procedure is entirely his fault.
LMAO. Touché good sir, a quick wit is someing I can admire. I would like to see said pet chimp in any case, not necessarily assisting in the grow, but more along the lines of tripping on the shrooms. I've always wondered what a chimp on shrooms would act like ever since I first tripped at the zoo some 15years ago now.
As for the WBSF vs. BRF, I do prefer the WBSF for simple girth and weight of mushrooms alone. BRF seems more contaminate resistant IME so far. It also seems to stay hydrated better, but that may just be due to the mushrooms not growing quite as fast as on e WBSF. They grow like a crack heads dick when his hooker shows up with a ball of hard for the night. #jackpotIMO. Haha, I look forward to seeing some fully colonized and beautifully fruited cakes.
Grow logs are probably my absoloute favorite part of the site, I spend a couple hours a day lately looking over them both new and old. It's cool to see how the hobby has progressed and certain things taken as absolute fact in the past are completely proven wrong these days. Plus who doesn't love some pin porn and full canopies of these magical fungi.
-MIM
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: MagicInMichigan]
#21977170 - 07/21/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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nobody83 said: I dont know if you did this or not as you didn't specify, did you let the air settle for about ten minutes afteryou loaded your box and shut off all air circulation about an hour or two before you loaded your box?
I did let the air settle in the box, but that was before I loaded it. I hope that doesn't make too much of a difference. Also I shut my window, turned off fans, and closed my AC vent before I went to bed the night before.
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MagicInMichigan said: Grow logs are probably my absoloute favorite part of the site, I spend a couple hours a day lately looking over them both new and old. It's cool to see how the hobby has progressed and certain things taken as absolute fact in the past are completely proven wrong these days. Plus who doesn't love some pin porn and full canopies of these magical fungi.
-MIM
Isn't it just fascinating how a simple forum full of anonymous internet users (the most unpredictable and volatile beings on the planet) can serve as an extremely useful learning environment?
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: HuskyHonkey]
#21977215 - 07/21/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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nobody83 said: I dont know if you did this or not as you didn't specify, did you let the air settle for about ten minutes afteryou loaded your box and shut off all air circulation about an hour or two before you loaded your box?
I did let the air settle in the box, but that was before I loaded it. I hope that doesn't make too much of a difference. Also I shut my window, turned off fans, and closed my AC vent before I went to bed the night before.
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MagicInMichigan said: Grow logs are probably my absoloute favorite part of the site, I spend a couple hours a day lately looking over them both new and old. It's cool to see how the hobby has progressed and certain things taken as absolute fact in the past are completely proven wrong these days. Plus who doesn't love some pin porn and full canopies of these magical fungi.
-MIM
Isn't it just fascinating how a simple forum full of anonymous internet users (the most unpredictable and volatile beings on the planet) can serve as an extremely useful learning environment?
i hope it doesn't either my friend.
It shows that even the most useless sacks of human shit can do at least one thing useful in their lives
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: nobody83]
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nobody83 said:
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HuskyHonkey said:
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nobody83 said: I dont know if you did this or not as you didn't specify, did you let the air settle for about ten minutes afteryou loaded your box and shut off all air circulation about an hour or two before you loaded your box?
I did let the air settle in the box, but that was before I loaded it. I hope that doesn't make too much of a difference. Also I shut my window, turned off fans, and closed my AC vent before I went to bed the night before.
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MagicInMichigan said: Grow logs are probably my absoloute favorite part of the site, I spend a couple hours a day lately looking over them both new and old. It's cool to see how the hobby has progressed and certain things taken as absolute fact in the past are completely proven wrong these days. Plus who doesn't love some pin porn and full canopies of these magical fungi.
-MIM
Isn't it just fascinating how a simple forum full of anonymous internet users (the most unpredictable and volatile beings on the planet) can serve as an extremely useful learning environment?
i hope it doesn't either my friend.
It shows that even the most useless sacks of human shit can do at least one thing useful in their lives
^^^Truth. There are some absolute assholes with no lives besides just growing mushrooms to what? Store foreverORburn them? Because none of them would ever even think about selling them, righttttt. Its true anonymity and the Internet is a double combo breeding ground for complete dick heads, I just smile and laugh because deep down its only because they are probably fucked with by people in real life or dislike themselves that they are like that.
In any case it is remarkable that there is such a vast array of knowledge on many different techniques on this forums, you just have to wade past the assholes to get it. Shit happens though, I bartend currently(finishing a herpetology Phd.) so I'm use to dealing with complete fucking dicks, at least these people on here don't throw bottles at me when I smile at their GF or ask fher for her number. Haha.
-MIM
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: MagicInMichigan]
#21977375 - 07/21/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not the beer bottles
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: nobody83]
#21977410 - 07/21/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't worry, they are generally empty when they throw them. If they still have something in them they just swing it on an angle like a club trying not to spill it. We have some Billy clubs, a couple machetes, and a piece or two behind the bar. Were fine with bottle throwing, the area were in thats very mild.
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: MagicInMichigan]
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Whew there was about to be a problem between me and the drunks at that bar lol That's good to hear
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: nobody83]
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Alcoholics NEVER waste their drank yo! Ok thats the last off-topic post Husky, I promise. Make sure to update with pictures as everything progresses.
-MIM
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Re: First Grow Log ~ PF Tek ~ Pics ~ Live Updates (Golden Teacher/Texas Yellow Cap) [Re: MagicInMichigan]
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We're worse than the arabs
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-------------------- “the only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars.” I surround myself with people who aren't afraid to live. They have had what they love most taken from them, be it freedom, love, money, or anything for that matter. When you lose your greatest love you also lose your greatest fear, when that happens you are completely and utterly free.
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