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How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself?
    #21973798 - 07/21/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

How does the dmt trip change(if at all) while on LSD or mushrooms? I feel LSD could take away some of the anxiety while blasting off while mushrooms could intensify it? Feelings/ experiences anyone?


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21973818 - 07/21/15 12:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Try it and let us know.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Rebelutionsssss] * 1
    #21973823 - 07/21/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The first time I did DMT was on the peak of 2g of cyans

I was in hyperspace for at least 15 minutes, and when I came back I had EXTREMELY open eyed visuals that lasted for 45 minutes or so.

It definitely lasted a lot longer, and it made the shroom trip much more visual as well, not just for those 45 minutes after I came back but for pretty much the rest of the trip


Haven't tried DMT on LSD though


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21973833 - 07/21/15 12:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thats awesome GottaLove.

What was the trip like when you smoked the DMT?

Can u write a mini-trip report?

Bill claims that smoking DMT on shrooms equals automatic entity contact.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21973840 - 07/21/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've been quite interested in smoking DMT or changa during an LSD trip for a while. Apparently it acts a higher starting position to ease you into it more smoothly. I've also heard that the two substances synergize very well at sub-breakthrough doses, and allow you to remember and integrate breakthroughs more easily. I think that the superhuman effects of a moderate dose of LSD would very useful for trying to comprehend the DMT experience, although I don't think I'll try it until I'm more experienced with both substances.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #21973844 - 07/21/15 12:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I wrote a full report on it after it happened

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21305085


Short run down though - the peak was a full on DMT breakthrough, entity contact (which I have only gotten 2 other times on DMT), the DMT lasted quite a bit longer and made the rest of the trip much more visual and profound


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Starless]
    #21973847 - 07/21/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Might try it this weekend and get back to you guys. I think I might try it with an eighth of cubes and see where that takes me


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21973853 - 07/21/15 12:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Might try it this weekend and get back to you guys. I think I might try it with an eighth of cubes and see where that takes me




Nothing can really prepare you for it, so be ready for that haha

I really liked it but as it was my first time with DMT while also peaking on shrooms, it may have been too much but overall it was an experience worth having


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21973856 - 07/21/15 12:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

When I was on 5-Meo-MIPT it neutralized most of the visuals from DMT. Was nuts


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21973860 - 07/21/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ha, well looks like i already read and commented on it.

What a trip man. Epic. Pure epicness.

im sold (again :lol:). Shrooms and DMT is the Ultimate.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21973863 - 07/21/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have tried both combinations, and they both have amazing synergies.
DMT and a good dose of LSD is almost too much. The times I've done it
were extremely beautiful with the essence of both molecules in the trip.

I've done DMT during a mescaline trip and it made every cell in my body feel like it was on fire.
I am not a fan of the synergy between these molecules.

DMT and alcohol makes me nauseous. The absolute craziest synergy there
is, in my opinion, is DMT and cocaine. I did a bit a few hours before
smoking the DMT and the breakthrough didn't stop for 30 min and I
couldn't talk for almost an hour after the experience it was that heavy.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21973870 - 07/21/15 12:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Actually going back and reading that report, I almost forgot how weak the shrooms felt after I came back from the DMT.

I mean on one hand I was tripping quite a bit harder than I was before I took the DMT

But on the other hand, the DMT was so intense that when it wore off, the shrooms were giving an almost negligible experience compared to the DMT peak (even though I was definitely tripping balls for the hour or so after the DMT, the visions were like what you get when you do whippets on shrooms but even that was nothing like the DMT peak.... it was so intense


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21973882 - 07/21/15 12:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Actually going back and reading that report, I almost forgot how weak the shrooms felt after I came back from the DMT.

I mean on one hand I was tripping quite a bit harder than I was before I took the DMT

But on the other hand, the DMT was so intense that when it wore off, the shrooms were giving an almost negligible experience compared to the DMT peak (even though I was definitely tripping balls for the hour or so after the DMT, the visions were like what you get when you do whippets on shrooms but even that was nothing like the DMT peak.... it was so intense



Awesome read man! I fucking love cyanescens. My first dmt breakthrough just blew everything I thought to be a psychedelic experience out of the water. I couldn't believe that there was a chemical out there that would literally disolve my entire world into nothing.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21973892 - 07/21/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

DMT is one mysterious substance.

To have a substance so common in Earthly plants, yet feel so completely Alien when smoked.

Weird stuff.

But I like the DMT! :smile:


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21973905 - 07/21/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm in fucking love dude. I can't wait to get my hands on a good amount and start experimenting with different psychedelic combos :awecid:


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21973928 - 07/21/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

DMT is definitely the most interesting drug out there, and once you try it, I find it creates more questions than it answers.


After trying it a few times and taking other psychedelics quite a few times, it has become a little much for me. I wouldn't want to take it more than once every few months now. Psychedelics like LSD and shrooms have helped me more in the long run when it comes to finding answers and fixing my problems but DMT is something that MUST be experienced at least once.

It just arouses so much mystery and question...


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid] * 1
    #21974070 - 07/21/15 02:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

God, there's something really freaky about the experience that makes it feel like the trip is like the absolute reality that you've never been shown, everything in front of you could dissapate into a giant purple space with 2 giant purple alien heads communicating through hyper frequencies, that you're actually hearing for example. And somehow that shit will be the answer to reality and explain destiny,life, time, space And creation to you, like some holy gift and then you'll leave and start coming to and forget the answer.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Everything]
    #21974083 - 07/21/15 02:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's what I'm saying dude. I hate that I forget my revelations so quickly on dmt :sonofawebitch:


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21974440 - 07/21/15 06:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Shrooms and other psyches will make the blast off more like an hour. Well it will be super intense for the same amount of time but your open and closed eye visuals will be intensely DMT for an hour or 2. On 2cb after my blast off it was like the DMT latched on and made the rest of my trip like I dosed three times as much 2cb. Lsd, Shrooms, and 2cb didn't detract much from the style of DMT, Shrooms being the most synergistic. A Lsd & DMT trip can blow you very far out on a fractal but Shrooms seemed to take you right to wackyness. With 2cb it was the shit, indescribable to those who haven't tried it. Mandelbrot hallways into infinity.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21974543 - 07/21/15 07:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Might try it this weekend and get back to you guys. I think I might try it with an eighth of cubes and see where that takes me





I would only eat 2-2.5 grams of cubes if you plan on using DMT at the peak. The thing is you want to be tripping on mushrooms, not fully immersed in an intense mushroom trip when you smoke the DMT. You want the shrooms to act as a springboard to hyperspace rather than a double wammy of intense psychedelia.

it does make the dmt last a bit longer but my favorite aspect is how it makes smoking DMT totally fearless. how it does this, I have no clue.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21974838 - 07/21/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Its called a dissociative hallucination. And they are intense. 
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DMT is definitely the most interesting drug out there, and once you try it, I find it creates more questions than it answers.


After trying it a few times and taking other psychedelics quite a few times, it has become a little much for me. I wouldn't want to take it more than once every few months now. Psychedelics like LSD and shrooms have helped me more in the long run when it comes to finding answers and fixing my problems but DMT is something that MUST be experienced at least once.

It just arouses so much mystery and question...




While I agree you gotta try at least once, I don't think you HAVE to do a breakthrough. I actually like my kaleidoscopic visions while I'm nodding out on the spice.

DMT gave me the worst trip of my life, it was the first full on dissociative hallucination too. In a few hours I had been shot in the head by the DEA, been told I was fucking up my life by my brother (who lives 200 miles away), my mother tells me she was disappointed (who lives with my brother), sucked through a network of tubes made up of points of white light that glowed in a color shifting structure, got disemboweled by some Golem-like creatures in a green city similar to New York, then I ended up in ICU for a few days while they kept pumping me with sedatives until I came back to reality.

Oh yeah.... That all took place in six minutes in my bed.... Or am I still at the hospital...


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21974878 - 07/21/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

never smoked it on L, but it's such a nice combo with mush.

It basically just turbo-charges the mushroom trip IMO.  It doesn't feel like I took a different drug, it just feels like I turned the dial to 10.  I was a little nervous, but was less than I am when 100% sober, which is rad.

That has to be one of my favorite trips.  I found my spirit animal that night, and just had such an awesome trip.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin] * 1
    #21974891 - 07/21/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:awehigh: I'm going for it! I've heard too many great things about the mush/dmt combo


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21975103 - 07/21/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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How does the dmt trip change(if at all) while on LSD or mushrooms? I feel LSD could take away some of the anxiety while blasting off while mushrooms could intensify it? Feelings/ experiences anyone?




I noticed my lsd + dmt combos were more crisp visually, less chaotic, a smoother ride and in a sense easier to control or handle. The regular dmt breakthrus are really insane, chaotic, can't even see what you're seeing type of thing. Although i love to do both, LSD is a great addition to the high ime.

Ive never tried shrooms + dmt, i will soon though. Sometime in august when i revisit shrooms after several months.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: moonzo]
    #21975320 - 07/21/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

lsd and dmt are meant to go together.  so much love and bliss surrounding you.  absolutely amazing.

there is some acid tint on the deemster experience and it is fucking awesome.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #21975488 - 07/21/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No way, there is way more geometric symmetry in DMT verse the fractal like pulses I get on acid. Maybe that's just me, individual chemistry and all. The breakthroughs are pretty hardcore. The subconscious is a pretty nutty thing. Something that was interesting to me is the degree that suggestion can influence a DMT trip. I mean with acid you have time to process the come up, DMT just plops you into whatever is floating around in the back of your head.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21975532 - 07/21/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've only blasted off sober and on a treshold dose of mush. The mush took all the pre flight jitters away which was awesome. Easy to relax into it and to look forward to the hyperspacetimecontinuum with a huge grin on your face from ear to ear.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21975612 - 07/21/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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How does the dmt trip change(if at all) while on LSD or mushrooms? I feel LSD could take away some of the anxiety while blasting off while mushrooms could intensify it? Feelings/ experiences anyone?




I've found that with LSDMT there was zero fear when taking in the last of the vapor which was strange in itself, when it came on it was as if already being in a higher state of consciousness due to LSD enabled me to see the DMT coming, it was so much slower than usual so was able see more of it and have less resistance towards it... it was far superior to my previous vaped DMT experiences, i felt the DMT stayed within the confines of LSDs influence, on mushrooms i didn't feel it synergize as well at all, also some of the LSDMT reports are rough, so be sure to read more, don't take my word for it...

If you do go ahead with it you may need significantly less DMT than usual so work your way up slowly :wink:


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Chronic7]
    #21975816 - 07/21/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: wigglewak]
    #21976496 - 07/21/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:seriousthumbsup: does smoking dmt out of a bong work at all? Or should I just stick with a pipe


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21976534 - 07/21/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The bong is a great way to smoke DMT. If I smoke it on top of passion
flower or herb, I smoke it out of a bong. Definitely better than a pipe


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21976551 - 07/21/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:seriousthumbsup: does smoking dmt out of a bong work at all? Or should I just stick with a pipe





It might be really difficult to do when I think about it

With a bong you have to pull a lot of air for it to work properly, which can cause your flame to burn your dmt much easier than with a pipe

I don't think the vapor is harsh because of the temps, rather it is just a really harsh smoke (hence the smell)

DMT is only a vapor in a pretty narrow temperature range, and the water might cause some of the DMT to cool to the point where it recrystallizes, but I might be wrong


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21976556 - 07/21/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's what I was just thinking. Think I'll just stick with the pipe


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21976561 - 07/21/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

anyone know where I can get a meth pipe? I think that would be best


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21976563 - 07/21/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Dude this is wrong. I've smoked out of a bong many many times.
Just put a layer of passion flower or herbs in the bottom of the bowl,
sprinkle your DMT on top of that, then put a thin layer of whatever
herbs you're using on top of that and blast off. You are seriously
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21976598 - 07/21/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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anyone know where I can get a meth pipe? I think that would be best



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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21976627 - 07/21/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Dmt on Lsd was VERY colourful. DMT and shrooms are more pastel as where LSD is more neon for me.. L made the DMT very colourful and Neon . Shapes where sharper and crisper. AWESOME combo.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21976686 - 07/21/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Dude this is wrong. I've smoked out of a bong many many times.
Just put a layer of passion flower or herbs in the bottom of the bowl,
sprinkle your DMT on top of that, then put a thin layer of whatever
herbs you're using on top of that and blast off. You are seriously
overthinking it




I have no doubt it would work, it just might be tricky to do, especially if you have a big bong that requires you to pull really hard to milk the chamber

Have you ever seen DMT residue in the water after using a bong? Curious if it actually does cool the vapor enough to cause some to build up


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: CosmicAdventurer]
    #21976703 - 07/21/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

bongs are my preferred method, although I've never tried a vapor genie.


you can milk a big enough hit to get there in one, which I like more than trying to rip it mulitple times.


now let's watch bill come in and spray about how you can't blast off in less than three hits.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21976710 - 07/21/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:seriousthumbsup: does smoking dmt out of a bong work at all? Or should I just stick with a pipe





It might be really difficult to do when I think about it

With a bong you have to pull a lot of air for it to work properly, which can cause your flame to burn your dmt much easier than with a pipe

I don't think the vapor is harsh because of the temps, rather it is just a really harsh smoke (hence the smell)

DMT is only a vapor in a pretty narrow temperature range, and the water might cause some of the DMT to cool to the point where it recrystallizes, but I might be wrong



if you've used a bong and know how to milk a slow low temp hit, it's really wasy :thumbup:


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21976714 - 07/21/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

DMT will dilute in the water. Truth. Meth pipe is called an essential oil burner at a head shop. Not all of them have it.

You need a crack pipe though. Glass tube with some coil material in there, melt a little onto the coil, put another piece in to shield from direct flame, warm, then blast off


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21976719 - 07/21/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



then why do we use oil based solvents for extracts?

the amount that dissolves in the water is negligible at best.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21976720 - 07/21/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

the best way to get there in one hit is with a dab rig.
I dumped 50 mg on a nail once and took the whole thing in one hit.
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21976729 - 07/21/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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bongs are my preferred method, although I've never tried a vapor genie.


you can milk a big enough hit to get there in one, which I like more than trying to rip it mulitple times.


now let's watch bill come in and spray about how you can't blast off in less than three hits.




Yeah taking one huge hit and blasting off must feel a lot more satisfying then trying to take quick DMT hits off of a pipe haha


One method I came up with that works pretty well is I took a regular ol test tube (mine was a simple 4-5 inch long, maybe .5 inch diameter), a plunger, and a glass or metal straw.

You basically just make a hole in the plunger and put the straw in. Make the hole so the straw fits snug. Then you just load your DMT into the test tube, plug the top, and heat the bottom with a lighter.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21976739 - 07/21/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I took a percolator for a bong, stuffed the downstem with coil and it worked like a beast. Google "The Machine DMT"
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21976991 - 07/21/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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bongs are my preferred method, although I've never tried a vapor genie.


you can milk a big enough hit to get there in one, which I like more than trying to rip it mulitple times.


now let's watch bill come in and spray about how you can't blast off in less than three hits.





You can blast off in 3, maybe 2 if you hit it right.

But not 1. And theres a difference between blasting off and breaking through. Blasting off is just a term for smoking DMT where breaking through is getting off completely.


Just because you are afraid to go past 1 hit don't blame me :shrug:


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21977013 - 07/21/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

take 50 mg off of a hot nail. You can take the whole thing in 1 hit
and I guarantee you will have a breakthrough.

But also, one really milky bong rip will get you there as well.
Especially if you smoke it off of passion flower, which I recommend
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21977035 - 07/21/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Mr.PhilCybin said:
bongs are my preferred method, although I've never tried a vapor genie.


you can milk a big enough hit to get there in one, which I like more than trying to rip it mulitple times.


now let's watch bill come in and spray about how you can't blast off in less than three hits.





You can blast off in 3, maybe 2 if you hit it right.

But not 1. And theres a difference between blasting off and breaking through. Blasting off is just a term for smoking DMT where breaking through is getting off completely.


Just because you are afraid to go past 1 hit don't blame me :shrug:




If you take a hit with 50mg of DMT, it will have the same overall effect with a faster onset than if you took 3 hits with 17mg


I think you are confusing getting higher with the effects of oxygen deprevation from taking 2 more hits. Try taking 50mg in one hit and then hold your breath...


When you smoke .3g of bud in one hit out of a bong, it gets me just as high as if I smoked .3g out of my bowl in 3-4 hits. The only difference is the one hit will give more of a rush due to the higher amounts of THC at once. Even then, your brain still has only .3g worth of bud's THC in your brain and you are just as high, hell even due to the rush that one hit bong might make you feel a bit higher, which is paradoxical to what you're saying.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21977080 - 07/21/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It also has to do with how much of the substance is being vaporized vs burned off


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21977381 - 07/21/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You can definitely break.through in one hit. I hit 50mg of dmt in a bong, cleared it and broke through very quickly. You don't even need to  dab it to get there however that would help.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21977414 - 07/21/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I disagree, also the way I've heard the slang breaking through and blasting off are synonymous. Otherwise it's a inbetweeny.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Everything]
    #21977426 - 07/21/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I hit 50mg with a nail and I didn't breakthrough. I got wicked high but I didn't breakthrough. I think because when you taje the 50mg in multiple hits, you are holding the 50mg in for twice as long because you are taking it in 2 hits instead of 1.

like smoking a blunt...don't you think you would get much higher if you smoked a whole bunt in multiple hits rather than hitting it in 1 hit(if it were possible) ?


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: wigglewak]
    #21977432 - 07/21/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I disagree, also the way I've heard the slang breaking through and blasting off are synonymous. Otherwise it's a inbetweeny.





Youre wrong. Blasting off and breakingthrough are not the same. Maybe it is to you, but not in DMT slang.

breakingthrough is an actual thing that can be achieved in the dmt experience. blasting off is just getting high on DMT.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21977454 - 07/21/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've heard them used interchangeably. Its like we're discussing the difference between tripping, melting, or frying


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    #21977465 - 07/21/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's slang so this is all subjective but let's talk about what "blasting off" means. You load a hit, like a cannonball. Then ya light it up, like back in naval warfare when they used cannons. And then you "blast off" like when that shit would go flying through the air. When the cannon misfired you wouldn't refer to it "blasting off" you would refer to it as "misfiring" which I will begin to do now.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21977466 - 07/21/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I hit 50mg with a nail and I didn't breakthrough. I got wicked high but I didn't breakthrough. I think because when you taje the 50mg in multiple hits, you are holding the 50mg in for twice as long because you are taking it in 2 hits instead of 1.

like smoking a blunt...don't you think you would get much higher if you smoked a whole bunt in multiple hits rather than hitting it in 1 hit(if it were possible) ?




Smoking the whole blunt at once will get you just as high as smoking it over the course of say 10 minutes, the only difference is when you smoke it all at once, it hits you a lot harder and quicker, which can make people feel much higher for a little while after smoking


For example, people always say they get higher from bongs than from a pipe because you can smoke a huge bowl at once with a bong, so it hits them harder. After 30 minutes or so, the highs will be pretty much exactly the same


If you think it is because you are holding the DMT in your lungs longer, then you could simply take one big 50mg toke and hold it in twice as long... Then you are breaking through on one hit

I have experience both with taking smaller tokes over and over to break through, and getting it all in one go (it is easy if you have a "machine" and big lungs like I do).

Also keep in mind that DMT tolerance forms immediately, so when you are taking 4-5 seconds inbetween tokes, you are forming a tolerance rapidly so those next 1-2 hits after the first are actually less effective



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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21977490 - 07/21/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Your IV comparison isn't valid because we are talking about totally different ROA's.

I still believe that taking 2 consecutive hits of dmt will get you higher than 1 hit of the same amount. I believe this because its my personal experience and it makes sense logically.

smoking 50mg of dmt in 1 hit holding it in as long as you can isn't as efficient as smoking it in 2 hits holding those 2 hits in as long as you can. plain and simple.

that's my opinion and mine only. I see why people will disagree and I respect theirs as well.




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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: wigglewak]
    #21977506 - 07/21/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It's slang so this is all subjective but let's talk about what "blasting off" means. You load a hit, like a cannonball. Then ya light it up, like back in naval warfare when they used cannons. And then you "blast off" like when that shit would go flying through the air. When the cannon misfired you wouldn't refer to it "blasting off" you would refer to it as "misfiring" which I will begin to do now.





the dmt high is referred to a blast off. That's it.


breaking through is when you actually have a breakthrough experience.


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    #21977544 - 07/21/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm I mean I usually get 2 in before I'm out to lunch but sometimes 1 works. I defiantly had 1 work to a scary intense degree. I'm not to worried about efficiency since I just go hard for it.

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    #21977558 - 07/21/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Your IV comparison isn't valid because we are talking about totally different ROA's.

I still believe that taking 2 consecutive hits of dmt will get you higher than 1 hit of the same amount. I believe this because its my personal experience and it makes sense logically.

smoking 50mg of dmt in 1 hit holding it in as long as you can isn't as efficient as smoking it in 2 hits holding those 2 hits in as long as you can. plain and simple.




Method of delivery is very important. If you are using a straight flame, then I agree, two hits are better because you end up burning off and wasting the majority of the hit. But if you build 'The Machine' (a glorified crack pipe) then the DMT melts on the coil and it all gets vaporized at once.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21977574 - 07/21/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I mean you said that and I explained how many people who blast don't understand it that way.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: wigglewak]
    #21977613 - 07/21/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

-shrug- its just freebase


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21977643 - 07/21/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Your IV comparison isn't valid because we are talking about totally different ROA's.

I still believe that taking 2 consecutive hits of dmt will get you higher than 1 hit of the same amount. I believe this because its my personal experience and it makes sense logically.

smoking 50mg of dmt in 1 hit holding it in as long as you can isn't as efficient as smoking it in 2 hits holding those 2 hits in as long as you can. plain and simple.




Method of delivery is very important. If you are using a straight flame, then I agree, two hits are better because you end up burning off and wasting the majority of the hit. But if you build 'The Machine' (a glorified crack pipe) then the DMT melts on the coil and it all gets vaporized at once.




Yeah, hopefully people who have reported trying to get the full dose in one hit yet say it didn't give them full effects are indeed doing it properly. I know Bill has a lot more experience with DMT than I do and probably doesn't waste any, but this goes for others out there who are curious

Normally I just pour a pile into my pipe and keep hitting it until I break through, but if I am using a proper device for vaping and am not wasting any, I only put maybe 5-10mg extra because if you successfully absorb over 100mg of DMT, your heart will start to race and it can be dangerous

I have had it happen though, where I poured a large pile like normal and vaped it, except I managed to not burn any of it and got a huge dose in one hit, probably 80-90mg. The rush from a dose that high of pure DMT is not fun, you don't want to feel like your heart is about to blow out of your chest in hyperspace because you can't do SHIT except ride it out


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21977665 - 07/21/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Your IV comparison isn't valid because we are talking about totally different ROA's.

I still believe that taking 2 consecutive hits of dmt will get you higher than 1 hit of the same amount. I believe this because its my personal experience and it makes sense logically.

smoking 50mg of dmt in 1 hit holding it in as long as you can isn't as efficient as smoking it in 2 hits holding those 2 hits in as long as you can. plain and simple.

that's my opinion and mine only. I see why people will disagree and I respect theirs as well.







Yeah it is a different ROA, but IVing and smoking most drugs (dmt especially) have nearly the same onset and intensity. I am only basing that off of my limited experience getting opiates shot into my arm in the ER once after a bad accident and from what other's have said, but my whole point is that iving and smoking aren't too different usually. I have smoked heroin and it was much more addicting than snorting it, it hit me instantly and I got a big rush from it, although I hear iv is still more intense.

Reading reports of IV DMT and comparing them to vaporized DMT though.... they are really the same. IV may have a tiny advantage of bypassing the 3-4 seconds it takes to fully absorb in your lungs, but once your lungs absorb the vapor, it goes right into the blood stream. I have never heard of someone slowly injecting DMT over the course of 20 seconds (approximately how long it takes to take 3 good tokes of deemz) but I have heard of people breaking through IVing dmt all in one dose many times


I do respect your opinion though, having all of the DMT hit you at once might not affect you personally the same way it does for most people


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21977673 - 07/21/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well i mostly just use the sprinkle or sandwhich method with some weed out of a pipe..so maybe 50mg in 1 hit with a machine can trigger a breakthrough :shrug:


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21977718 - 07/21/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah that does work but you still get some waste using that method. Trust me, 50mg can blast you right through to the state everyone raves about. You can still waste using the machine too, but as long as you let it warm before getting on the coil full force, you'll get where you wanna go. You could even use the downstem of a bong to make one, I just don't like that taste lingering about


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21977740 - 07/21/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think the 3 hit method would be more effective especially since a lot of people that use dmt prefer that compared to dabbing or other routes of ingestion


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21977748 - 07/21/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm trying to think how you could do an effective dab, but all these methods are just reinventing the wheel. Freebase is the same principle be it crack, crystal, or DMT. Vaporize it evenly without burning it :vibin:


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21977811 - 07/21/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Not sure how others dab DMT (freebase, goo is straightforward) but if you have a dabbing device, you could try heating it to like 120f or so and rolling it around in your dmt. It should melt just a little and then it will stick to the device, and then you just dab it on a nail (do not heat it a lot though, if it is red or white it will 100% burn some or most of your DMT)

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Well i mostly just use the sprinkle or sandwhich method with some weed out of a pipe..so maybe 50mg in 1 hit with a machine can trigger a breakthrough :shrug:




This is how I did dmt my first few times, and I had to take 3 tokes to actually get all the DMT and some always got burnt. That is why I swapped to using a big pile instead of a weighed dose, because you just take as big of a first toke as you can and if you didn't managed to get a full 40-50 breakthrough dose you can just hit it again quickly.

I do weigh my doses when using the machine though, just because it is a lot easier to properly vaporize with a machine. I might add a few extra MG like I said (5-10mg) just incase some gets burned or doesn't want to vape easily so I can do 1 toke breakthroughs.

Do keep in mind though that whenever I have successfully vaped a full dose and got it all in one hit that the plume of vapor is pretty big. I have lived above 9000 feet my entire life so I have pretty large, strong lungs and it is still a little difficult to get that much DMT in one go. I also cough like a motherfucker after I exhale, while is annoying when you are breaking through, so I usually just take smaller hits to avoid all of that


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21978072 - 07/21/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have smoked a point in a bowl many times and never had the so called
heart racing you speak of.

As for dabbing, in the past I have just poured pure crystal on a
hot nail. It worked perfectly and I got it all in one hit.
The experiences were some of the heaviest I've had with seriously
monumental breakthroughs. It is actually a little too rough in my
opinion and don't particularly enjoy dabbing it.

I like to smoke the occasional DMT blunt to my roommate and myself.
We'll burn it out half way, ride the first wave, come down, re-light it
and ride the second wave.

I have a friend who exclusively uses a meth pipe, I've tried it and
am just not a fan. I don't like the overly oily feeling on my lips
and I just don't like using it in general. I find after I take 1 hit,
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21978115 - 07/21/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I have smoked a point in a bowl many times and never had the so called
heart racing you speak of.

As for dabbing, in the past I have just poured pure crystal on a
hot nail. It worked perfectly and I got it all in one hit.
The experiences were some of the heaviest I've had with seriously
monumental breakthroughs. It is actually a little too rough in my
opinion and don't particularly enjoy dabbing it.

I like to smoke the occasional DMT blunt to my roommate and myself.
We'll burn it out half way, ride the first wave, come down, re-light it
and ride the second wave.

I have a friend who exclusively uses a meth pipe, I've tried it and
am just not a fan. I don't like the overly oily feeling on my lips
and I just don't like using it in general. I find after I take 1 hit,
I have trouble heating it with the lighter to take the 2nd or 3rd :shrug:




Hmm. Just curious, have you actually vaporized 100mg or so in a proper device to make sure none is actually wasted? I make big piles because I expect some to get wasted, but when I actually got a really good toke that managed to vape all the DMT I had in that one hit, it was really intense. The actual trip wasn't stronger or anything, but I just felt my heart racing and blood rushing super fast, and since I was in hyperspace when my heart is racing the fastest, I actually got scared for my physical body that I left behind because I couldn't move my hands to check my pulse or ask my friend if I looked okay.


It only happened once, but my heart was definitely beating really fast. With the same DMT, I could get a full breakthrough with a little over 40mg if I vaped it all perfectly so taking 150% more than the breakthrough dose doesn't really make me surprised that my heart was racing. Even a sub breakthrough dose of DMT increases heart rate significantly, if you have time, try to vape only like 20-30mg. You can still kind of move around and you are still in reality, so you can check your pulse or just do your normal dose and ask a friend to check it for you

I remember the first time I fucked up a whole pile of DMT once, it was the last 120mg I had and I planned to get two blast offs off of it but I accidently burned it and the ashes it was on top of and underneath were still black, so they actually embered and wasted my dmt. The hit I got was REALLY harsh, and I probably didn't get more than like 20mg or so but that was the first time I noticed my heartbeat on DMT, and even at 20mg it was pumping much faster than normal.

It only makes sense though... hyperspace is a pretty scary place to be and every DMT experience I have had didn't come without a bit of fear and anxiety, and when you are blasting off at infinite speed into a dimension you know nothing about no doubt causes a lot of adrenaline to pump through your brain, and that increases pulse significantly. DMT definitely causes a fight or flight response before, during, and even right after doing it, and when you have more than double a dose that gives you full access to the DMT experience, it causes your body to release more adrenaline than it would in lower doses

It might just be me though, but I did read of people experiencing similar effects at the 100mg dose


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21978130 - 07/21/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, I have my own little method to ensure thatit vapes instead of burns. I am pretty experienced with DMT and have experimented to the fullest capability with it.
The only method of ingestion I have yet to explore is IV but I probably won't be doing that.

I think the heart racing is subjective. I have had my heart race on
low doses where the body load was almost too much to handle. It happens
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21978166 - 07/21/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Yes, I have my own little method to ensure thatit vapes instead of burns. I am pretty experienced with DMT and have experimented to the fullest capability with it.
The only method of ingestion I have yet to explore is IV but I probably won't be doing that.

I think the heart racing is subjective. I have had my heart race on
low doses where the body load was almost too much to handle. It happens
but I don't think it's specifically a symptom of smoking over XX mg




Yeah I added more detail to that post about what might cause the heart racing. DMT is scary, and when your body suddenly goes faster than the speed of light into a realm which you have no knowledge or power in, your body will naturally release adrenaline in a fight or flight response.

It explains what might cause one's heart to beat faster than another who also does DMT, but csince the effects of 50mg dmt and 100mg are the same on the psychedelic level, my body must have been reacting to it in some other way that increased my pulse significantly. It might have just been fear that I knew that I took much more than a normal dose and I didn't know if it would affect me differently, but I will never know unless I try 100mg again with the intention to take that much, you don't want messages like "oh shit I took way too much DMT will I be okay" as you are about to blast off into the most powerful psychedelic experience there is


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21978234 - 07/21/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:beatadeadhorse: Oook monster man, you can take a full point in under 30 seconds without wasting any? I would really be interested to see someone do this much at once. I've gotten a breakthrough on 30mg and one on 60-70mg. HUGE difference. A full point would be fucking NUTS.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21978304 - 07/21/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The very first time I smoked DMT my friend loaded a whole point in
a bowl for me and one for himself. My perception of reality was shattered that very first experience.

I'm not saying I smoke DMT like that every time, but if it's me and
my roommate sharing a bowl, or if I feel like going for broke, which
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21978413 - 07/22/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:beatadeadhorse: Oook monster man, you can take a full point in under 30 seconds without wasting any? I would really be interested to see someone do this much at once. I've gotten a breakthrough on 30mg and one on 60-70mg. HUGE difference. A full point would be fucking NUTS.




It was by total accident too, which is the weird thing.

I just pack 100mg when I want to use my weed smoking pipe because the method usually always causes some DMT to burn and get wasted, so I don't expect more than 60mg of it to actually reach my brain, but I must have held the flame and pulled on the pipe in a near perfect way, because I got all of it in one toke.


Looking back, it might of just been a better idea to stop inhaling and just let the melted dmt still in the bowl seep into the ashes for later use, but I guess it just didn't cross my mind.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21978454 - 07/22/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thats the thing with DMT, you don't want to do too little before the tolerance threshold kicks in. I was trying to find a balance that gives you a breakthrough level trip without being so damn jarring.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21978481 - 07/22/15 12:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You just have to dive in and accept what comes next :lol:


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21978513 - 07/22/15 12:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You just have to dive in and accept what comes next :lol:




Haha yeah, whatever happens happens, but it is always a good idea to try and prepare yourself.

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Thats the thing with DMT, you don't want to do too little before the tolerance threshold kicks in. I was trying to find a balance that gives you a breakthrough level trip without being so damn jarring.




Definitely learned this quickly. After packing weighed out doses in a pipe and only getting a few successful blastoffs made me realize that if you are using a method that can burn or waste your dmt, you should always pack more because if you fuck up and only get like 20mg, you will have to wait about an hour to try again when all you had to do is compensate for potential error

Just light it up and keep hitting it until you break through, as long as you pack enough to be able to hit it over and over you should have a much higher success rate :smile:


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21979043 - 07/22/15 05:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

For me its simple..eye out a good dose of sprinkled dmt over the whole top layer of the bowl and hit it 2 or 3 times..3 hits if the 1st or 2nd hits werent nice and big.

Theres usually always a little bit left as well.

I never ever had a problem with burning DMT..and i light it directly or just right above the dmt. What happens is the dmt infuses with the weed and makes for nice hits.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21979485 - 07/22/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I can't speak of DMT yet.

But beeing a daily potsmoker for nearly fifteen years now I totally agree with this "a few smaller hits will take you higher than one big hit" -thesis.
Bill' has allready explained why. :thumbup:

This has nothing to do with flammability or whitch pipe to choose (what may be important for DMT), it's just different matter.

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    #21980458 - 07/22/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I did about 50mgs off of an enail, temp around 600 if I recall, and it was absolutely way too fucking intense. Was not prepared for such an incredibly immersive and terrifying breakthrough. The all knowing super machine, and the machine elves showed me how fucked up I was and how fucked all my friends were. Honestly scared me away from dmt till now. I think the 3 hit method seems more intelligent lol. You can always take more but never less!


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: FractalMind]
    #21980858 - 07/22/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

haha that's what I'm sayin'! 50mg off a hot nail is by far the best
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21980894 - 07/22/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The number of hits you take in completely irrelevant.

the only thing that matters is the amount of dmt absorbed by the body in a short amount of time.

you can take 100mg in one hit, two hits, 3 hits, etc.
after that you're running out of time for that window before it hits and incapacitates you, but the # of hits makes no difference, what so ever.

It bugs me how you hold yourself to be the undeniable authority on how to break through.
lots of people smoke deems, and many were before you were born Bill.

you found what works for you; rad.  I have a one hit method that works for me. The fact that mine works for me doesn't make your method any less valid.

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    #21980956 - 07/22/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It all comes down to who has the biggest dick because they have done the highest dose  :trollmove:


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    #21981113 - 07/22/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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the only thing that matters is the amount of dmt absorbed by the body in a short amount of time.




Right.

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Mr.PhilCybin said:
The number of hits you take is completely irrelevant.




Maybe we all just talk past each other here, but I think it's a little different..


I think time is a factor here. Absorbing a complete lung volume of smoke isn't done in a second. The more time you allow it to stay inside the more gets into your blood.

One BIG hit usually is very harsh to the lungs and as you breath very little oxigen you just cannot hold it inside for a very long time.

A smaller hit is much softer to the lungs as you have more volume left that can be filled with fresh air. This allows you to keep the smoke inside your body for much longer.


That's what I have experienced with cannabis so far. With the same ammount of weed, two small hits each hold insde for 15-20 seconds will get me higher than one big hit kept only for 10 seconds.

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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #21981139 - 07/22/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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One BIG hit usually is very harsh to the lungs and as you breath very little oxigen you just cannot hold it inside for a very long time.




Maybe you can't, some of us can. Its a whole lot easier if you vaporize it all at once instead of chasing the bowl. I hold it in until I start to conk out


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21981245 - 07/22/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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ZeroBoyWD said:
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Pandemoon said:

One BIG hit usually is very harsh to the lungs and as you breath very little oxigen you just cannot hold it inside for a very long time.




Maybe you can't, some of us can. Its a whole lot easier if you vaporize it all at once instead of chasing the bowl. I hold it in until I start to conk out



^^this.

I was a huge weed/has smoker for years and years, and I always preferred the bong.
Taking a huge hit and holding it in was nothing new to me, and as long as I get the smoke past my throat, I'm fine to hold it in for at least 10-20 seconds, which is plenty of time to absorb all the magic.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21981392 - 07/22/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Smoking DMT from a "hot nail" is the best way to break through? Can someone please explain to me what this means and how it works? Thank you


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    #21981519 - 07/22/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hitting dmt off of like a dab rig, titanium nail heated with a torch attached to a bong basically. Vaporizes VERY VERY efficiently. Be cautious lol


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21981528 - 07/22/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

My preferred breakthrough method is 50-55mgs, via bong. A small bowl with a small base layer of weed and a casing on top. Try to pile the majority of the DMT to one side of the bowl, so when lighting you can light the opposite side.(No torching) Let the cherry melt the DMT, you should feel your lungs change in a way to where they feel like they can take the most massive rip ever. At that point, torch the bowl if it isn't already cashed. Clear bong. with almost 100% success rate i will breakthrough and meet the Jester before i exhale. Sometimes i panic because i think forgot to exhale and I die instead lol.

  You will for sure have more questions then answers after your experience. But on the other hand I also believe that the more experience you have with DMT the more you are able to understand during those experiences. Even though more experience doesn't necessarily mean you will be able to remember anything very long after you come down.


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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Boomertown]
    #21981792 - 07/22/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm right, you're wrong.:rolleyes: come on people, does putting your right leg in your pants versus your left make you an inferior dresser


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