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ZeroBoyWD
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21976714 - 07/21/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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DMT will dilute in the water. Truth. Meth pipe is called an essential oil burner at a head shop. Not all of them have it.
You need a crack pipe though. Glass tube with some coil material in there, melt a little onto the coil, put another piece in to shield from direct flame, warm, then blast off
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21976719 - 07/21/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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then why do we use oil based solvents for extracts?
the amount that dissolves in the water is negligible at best.
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#21976720 - 07/21/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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the best way to get there in one hit is with a dab rig. I dumped 50 mg on a nail once and took the whole thing in one hit. It literally blew my brain into pieces
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#21976729 - 07/21/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mr.PhilCybin said: bongs are my preferred method, although I've never tried a vapor genie.
you can milk a big enough hit to get there in one, which I like more than trying to rip it mulitple times.
now let's watch bill come in and spray about how you can't blast off in less than three hits.
Yeah taking one huge hit and blasting off must feel a lot more satisfying then trying to take quick DMT hits off of a pipe haha
One method I came up with that works pretty well is I took a regular ol test tube (mine was a simple 4-5 inch long, maybe .5 inch diameter), a plunger, and a glass or metal straw.
You basically just make a hole in the plunger and put the straw in. Make the hole so the straw fits snug. Then you just load your DMT into the test tube, plug the top, and heat the bottom with a lighter.
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ZeroBoyWD
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21976739 - 07/21/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I took a percolator for a bong, stuffed the downstem with coil and it worked like a beast. Google "The Machine DMT" One hit
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#21976991 - 07/21/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mr.PhilCybin said: bongs are my preferred method, although I've never tried a vapor genie.
you can milk a big enough hit to get there in one, which I like more than trying to rip it mulitple times.
now let's watch bill come in and spray about how you can't blast off in less than three hits.
You can blast off in 3, maybe 2 if you hit it right.
But not 1. And theres a difference between blasting off and breaking through. Blasting off is just a term for smoking DMT where breaking through is getting off completely.
Just because you are afraid to go past 1 hit don't blame me
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21977013 - 07/21/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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take 50 mg off of a hot nail. You can take the whole thing in 1 hit and I guarantee you will have a breakthrough.
But also, one really milky bong rip will get you there as well. Especially if you smoke it off of passion flower, which I recommend smoking your DMT with if you've never tried it before
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21977035 - 07/21/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said:
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Mr.PhilCybin said: bongs are my preferred method, although I've never tried a vapor genie.
you can milk a big enough hit to get there in one, which I like more than trying to rip it mulitple times.
now let's watch bill come in and spray about how you can't blast off in less than three hits.
You can blast off in 3, maybe 2 if you hit it right.
But not 1. And theres a difference between blasting off and breaking through. Blasting off is just a term for smoking DMT where breaking through is getting off completely.
Just because you are afraid to go past 1 hit don't blame me 
If you take a hit with 50mg of DMT, it will have the same overall effect with a faster onset than if you took 3 hits with 17mg
I think you are confusing getting higher with the effects of oxygen deprevation from taking 2 more hits. Try taking 50mg in one hit and then hold your breath...
When you smoke .3g of bud in one hit out of a bong, it gets me just as high as if I smoked .3g out of my bowl in 3-4 hits. The only difference is the one hit will give more of a rush due to the higher amounts of THC at once. Even then, your brain still has only .3g worth of bud's THC in your brain and you are just as high, hell even due to the rush that one hit bong might make you feel a bit higher, which is paradoxical to what you're saying.
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21977080 - 07/21/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It also has to do with how much of the substance is being vaporized vs burned off
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21977381 - 07/21/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can definitely break.through in one hit. I hit 50mg of dmt in a bong, cleared it and broke through very quickly. You don't even need to dab it to get there however that would help.
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21977414 - 07/21/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I disagree, also the way I've heard the slang breaking through and blasting off are synonymous. Otherwise it's a inbetweeny.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Everything]
#21977426 - 07/21/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hit 50mg with a nail and I didn't breakthrough. I got wicked high but I didn't breakthrough. I think because when you taje the 50mg in multiple hits, you are holding the 50mg in for twice as long because you are taking it in 2 hits instead of 1.
like smoking a blunt...don't you think you would get much higher if you smoked a whole bunt in multiple hits rather than hitting it in 1 hit(if it were possible) ?
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: wigglewak]
#21977432 - 07/21/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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wigglewak said: I disagree, also the way I've heard the slang breaking through and blasting off are synonymous. Otherwise it's a inbetweeny.
Youre wrong. Blasting off and breakingthrough are not the same. Maybe it is to you, but not in DMT slang.
breakingthrough is an actual thing that can be achieved in the dmt experience. blasting off is just getting high on DMT.
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21977454 - 07/21/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've heard them used interchangeably. Its like we're discussing the difference between tripping, melting, or frying
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21977465 - 07/21/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's slang so this is all subjective but let's talk about what "blasting off" means. You load a hit, like a cannonball. Then ya light it up, like back in naval warfare when they used cannons. And then you "blast off" like when that shit would go flying through the air. When the cannon misfired you wouldn't refer to it "blasting off" you would refer to it as "misfiring" which I will begin to do now.
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21977466 - 07/21/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: I hit 50mg with a nail and I didn't breakthrough. I got wicked high but I didn't breakthrough. I think because when you taje the 50mg in multiple hits, you are holding the 50mg in for twice as long because you are taking it in 2 hits instead of 1.
like smoking a blunt...don't you think you would get much higher if you smoked a whole bunt in multiple hits rather than hitting it in 1 hit(if it were possible) ?
Smoking the whole blunt at once will get you just as high as smoking it over the course of say 10 minutes, the only difference is when you smoke it all at once, it hits you a lot harder and quicker, which can make people feel much higher for a little while after smoking
For example, people always say they get higher from bongs than from a pipe because you can smoke a huge bowl at once with a bong, so it hits them harder. After 30 minutes or so, the highs will be pretty much exactly the same
If you think it is because you are holding the DMT in your lungs longer, then you could simply take one big 50mg toke and hold it in twice as long... Then you are breaking through on one hit
I have experience both with taking smaller tokes over and over to break through, and getting it all in one go (it is easy if you have a "machine" and big lungs like I do).
Also keep in mind that DMT tolerance forms immediately, so when you are taking 4-5 seconds inbetween tokes, you are forming a tolerance rapidly so those next 1-2 hits after the first are actually less effective
If you IVed a good dose of heroin all at once, you should feel higher than if you took the same dose over a few minutes because you aren't getting that initial rush, but after a few minutes (after the rush fades) both highs are the same
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21977490 - 07/21/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your IV comparison isn't valid because we are talking about totally different ROA's.
I still believe that taking 2 consecutive hits of dmt will get you higher than 1 hit of the same amount. I believe this because its my personal experience and it makes sense logically.
smoking 50mg of dmt in 1 hit holding it in as long as you can isn't as efficient as smoking it in 2 hits holding those 2 hits in as long as you can. plain and simple.
that's my opinion and mine only. I see why people will disagree and I respect theirs as well.
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: wigglewak]
#21977506 - 07/21/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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wigglewak said: It's slang so this is all subjective but let's talk about what "blasting off" means. You load a hit, like a cannonball. Then ya light it up, like back in naval warfare when they used cannons. And then you "blast off" like when that shit would go flying through the air. When the cannon misfired you wouldn't refer to it "blasting off" you would refer to it as "misfiring" which I will begin to do now.
the dmt high is referred to a blast off. That's it.
breaking through is when you actually have a breakthrough experience.
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21977544 - 07/21/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hmm I mean I usually get 2 in before I'm out to lunch but sometimes 1 works. I defiantly had 1 work to a scary intense degree. I'm not to worried about efficiency since I just go hard for it.
Do you use like one of those essential oil vapes?
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Re: How does smoking dmt on mushrooms or LSD compare to it by itself? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21977558 - 07/21/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: Your IV comparison isn't valid because we are talking about totally different ROA's.
I still believe that taking 2 consecutive hits of dmt will get you higher than 1 hit of the same amount. I believe this because its my personal experience and it makes sense logically.
smoking 50mg of dmt in 1 hit holding it in as long as you can isn't as efficient as smoking it in 2 hits holding those 2 hits in as long as you can. plain and simple.
Method of delivery is very important. If you are using a straight flame, then I agree, two hits are better because you end up burning off and wasting the majority of the hit. But if you build 'The Machine' (a glorified crack pipe) then the DMT melts on the coil and it all gets vaporized at once.
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