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Pluteus Salicinus fruiting?....
    #21972820 - 07/20/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So I have successfully cloned wild Pluteus Salicinus after I came across this thread http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20453419#20453419 thanks to his agar recipe. Just did a first transfer and it DOES bruise!! I was skeptical as to the species and have just been practicing cloning any wild mushrooms i find to get good at agar teks. I was just wondering if anyone had ANY info at all on fruiting them? I PMed him but got no response as to his results and cant find much online or on here.

I figure if anyone can figure it out or has done it it has to be someone on here. Just looking for any type of info. I plan on making LCs but was curious if a regular honey or karo recipe would work? The mycelium does not bruise as blue as his but it does bruise!! When I go to buy my first cell phone ever this week I'll post pics. I finally am breaking down and getting an IPhone, work is paying for it for me and says I have to have it... Ugh. I do have the very original IPad which I use for the Internet but it has no camera and I cannot hook my nikon up to it :frown: I prefer to get ahold of people when I want, not when they want. 30+years on earth without one, I'm not thrilled about getting one.

Please any links or info anyone has I would like and would be willing to send prints out if I can get them to fruit for anyone who offers any type of help. Thanks all.


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I surround myself with people who aren't afraid to live. They have had what they love most taken from them, be it freedom, love, money, or anything for that matter. When you lose your greatest love you also lose your greatest fear, when that happens you are completely and utterly free.


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Re: Pluteus Salicinus fruiting?.... [Re: MagicInMichigan]
    #21972871 - 07/20/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm curious as well. :popcorn:


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Re: Pluteus Salicinus fruiting?.... [Re: Grey]
    #21972914 - 07/20/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Grey said:
I'm curious as well. :popcorn:





I know! I freaking kept trying and trying to clone what I thought to be them on regular MEA and they never took, found that thread last weekend and it took and colonized fully in less than 8 days, I just transferred and the wedge bruised a cadet/sky blue. Not as dark as hid but it did bruise vividly. I know they contain low amounts of actives but getting this to colonize something similar to what is used for ovoids/other wood lovers would be sweet.

I'm just surprised there isn't someone who has already done it on here, I mean there probably is but I can't find a thread. I've seen these hundreds of times when out hunting for other actives and passed them off as just a greyish version of the super common brown Pluteus that are all over here. I became curious when I saw the research showing them as active and found that they bruise a grey blue and sometimes a darker blue. I'm judt pissed I've been walking past them my whole life and could have been collecting them 20-100 at a time in the woods across the street from my house behind a school. They seem to prefer very decomposed oak, elm, and maple here in MI.

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I surround myself with people who aren't afraid to live. They have had what they love most taken from them, be it freedom, love, money, or anything for that matter. When you lose your greatest love you also lose your greatest fear, when that happens you are completely and utterly free.


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Re: Pluteus Salicinus fruiting?.... [Re: MagicInMichigan]
    #21977023 - 07/21/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Grey, I got ahold of the OP of the article I posted, he said his pins all aborted once they reached about 5mm in diameter. I think when fruiting this species the humidity needs to go wayyy down as soon as pins appear, as long as the substrate/wood itself is fairly hydrated. I find them on very, very decayed logs that are fairly moist, however the surrounding ground/woods in the 50ft radius around the logs I find them on is bone dry to the point it's cracking.

Even under the dried out decomposing leaves there is 0 moisture. It's been 85-90 here lately and they are fruiting like crazy. It's probably approx. 72-78ish F on the forest floor where the log is when they fruit most. I hope to figure this out, I plan on collecting a few very rotted logs, clean and de bug them as best as possible, pasteurize the crumbled up cleaned substrate I get from the logs and try a few different water levels in the wood. Some moist but still dry, some pretty moist, and some soaked. I'll keep you updated if I figure it out.


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I surround myself with people who aren't afraid to live. They have had what they love most taken from them, be it freedom, love, money, or anything for that matter. When you lose your greatest love you also lose your greatest fear, when that happens you are completely and utterly free.


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Re: Pluteus Salicinus fruiting?.... [Re: MagicInMichigan]
    #21977176 - 07/21/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

How were you going to prepare the substrate for colonization? We're you trying to fruit them inside or outside?


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Re: Pluteus Salicinus fruiting?.... [Re: Grey]
    #21977260 - 07/21/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Inside, I am going to be moving agar wedges to both WBSF cakes with some powdered wood supplemented in and directly to a mix of pasteurized rotten wood mulch supplemented with a bit of manure and a little peat to dry it up some. I plan on fruiting indoors. I may also just grab a rotten log from the forest and put it into an aquarium with my poison dart frogs that has higher humidity, but great FAE and gets lightly misted a few times daily. I plan on colonizing wood chunks and stick them into pre dug holes in that log to see if it will grow oyster/shitake style just indoors.

If all attempts fail indoors after exhaustive attempts then it will be turning to outdoor teks and going from there. I really would like to do them indoors though just to say i did, if my strain that i found is strong things may go easier than expected, I think most of the people whove attempted have had weak fruiting genetics at best due to any number of factors, the mycelium looks like it grows and recovers well but obviously it didn't fruit. I'm sectoring the myc and growing many different plates so I can see which will fruit easiest/at all. I feel the slower the myc goes in this species the stronger it becomes, I've studied the logs I've found them on and the myc seems to go very, very slowly until the log is colonized about 80% through. After 80% it is fully filled and consolidated to the point of fruiting pins starting to pop out within 3 days, 100%colonization about 18hrs after 80%.

I call it 100% colonization due to the fact the myc didn't spread anymore after that point. It seems not many people have made records of their attempts at cultivating this species, so many people are too afraid to embarrass themselves/fail that they don't bother ever posting their attempts for us to learn from/maybe see something they didn't. Human pride is unfortunate in that way. Ultimately I think someone, myself or someone far more experienced, will fruit these in 2015 if it already hasn't been done and just not documented.



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I surround myself with people who aren't afraid to live. They have had what they love most taken from them, be it freedom, love, money, or anything for that matter. When you lose your greatest love you also lose your greatest fear, when that happens you are completely and utterly free.


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