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Questions about fruiting... *DELETED*
#21972750 - 07/20/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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FungusOfTheBungus


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Re: Questions about fruiting... [Re: hayburner]
#21972798 - 07/20/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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FAE = Fresh Air Exchange
I don't see enough holes in your fruiting chamber. Are you using a shotgun fruiting chamber? If not then look up the tek for it and make one. Otherwise you are not getting enough FAE.
Trim down the aluminum foil so you just have enough for the cakes to sit on.
Put the cakes closer together. About 2-3 inches apart. They create their own nice little micro-climate when they are closer to each other.
It usually takes anywhere from 7 - 14 days before you start seeing the first pins. Be patient.
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Re: Questions about fruiting... [Re: hayburner]
#21972831 - 07/20/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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nowhere did you say anything about misting OP. I can't enlarge the pic, but they look like they could get misted. Keep them shimmering/glistening with no pooling water. Mist when they aren't shimmering until they are shimmering. Mist the perlite once a day too.
Also please tell me it's a sgfc, and elevated at least 6 inches off the ground
Edited by Mad Season (07/20/15 08:51 PM)
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Re: Questions about fruiting... [Re: Mad Season]
#21972884 - 07/20/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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FungusOfTheBungus said: FAE = Fresh Air Exchange
I don't see enough holes in your fruiting chamber. Are you using a shotgun fruiting chamber? If not then look up the tek for it and make one. Otherwise you are not getting enough FAE.
Trim down the aluminum foil so you just have enough for the cakes to sit on.
Put the cakes closer together. About 2-3 inches apart. They create their own nice little micro-climate when they are closer to each other.
It usually takes anywhere from 7 - 14 days before you start seeing the first pins. Be patient.
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Mad Season said:
nowhere did you say anything about misting OP. I can't enlarge the pic, but they look like they could get misted. Keep them shimmering/glistening with no pooling water. Mist when they aren't shimmering until they are shimmering. Mist the perlite once a day too.
Also please tell me it's a sgfc, and elevated at least 6 inches off the ground
It is not a shotgun fruiting chamber, just a generic plastic box I punched a few holes in, but I will get to making more and more holes immediately.
Going to get a spray bottle to mist with as soon as the dollar store is open as well.
My mistake too, I had it on the floor :S beginner's mistake? haha
Thank you very much for the advice.
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Re: Questions about fruiting... [Re: hayburner]
#21972923 - 07/20/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Read this!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542
If you read it thoroughly, you'll see that it's supposed to have holes on the bottom so air going underneath will push humidity up through the perlite. Perlite is pretty much useless in any other chamber. Just something to keep in mind.
Edited by Mad Season (07/20/15 09:08 PM)
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Re: Questions about fruiting... [Re: Mad Season]
#21973082 - 07/20/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hmm.. it looks like I'm behind on my knowledge. I didn't know much about this "shotgun chamber" method and I didn't think it was necessary.
I had watched this video multiple times:
Is it outdated?
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Re: Questions about fruiting... [Re: hayburner]
#21973144 - 07/20/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi,
I just wanted to help you by giving you this tek that I'm currently following which is working out great for me. Lots of useful information. Take a look, I'm sure it'll answer some of your questions.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18381574/fpart/all/vc/1
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Re: Questions about fruiting... [Re: Arrtus]
#21973271 - 07/20/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks. I am reading as much as I can remember.
I don't have a drill so I stupidly used a screwdriver to stab these small holes. At least they are on the bottom now.
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Re: Questions about fruiting... [Re: hayburner]
#21974040 - 07/21/15 02:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Did the screwdriver work? I dont have a drill either and was wondering what to use.
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Re: Questions about fruiting... [Re: sheptownboi] 1
#21974202 - 07/21/15 04:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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sheptownboi said: Did the screwdriver work? I dont have a drill either and was wondering what to use.
It got the job done but took a lot of force to drive it through the plastic. Try a nail.
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Re: Questions about fruiting... [Re: hayburner]
#21993803 - 07/25/15 06:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Double post...
They are finally fruiting. I have them under a very powerful lamp.
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Re: Questions about fruiting... [Re: hayburner]
#21993836 - 07/25/15 06:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edit- reread OP
It doesn't look like they were rolled in dry verm... am I trippin or does that look like bare myc to anyone else?
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Edited by Dr.Satan (07/25/15 06:30 AM)
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Re: Questions about fruiting... [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21994085 - 07/25/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dr.Satan said: Edit- reread OP
It doesn't look like they were rolled in dry verm... am I trippin or does that look like bare myc to anyone else?
They were rolled, most of it is on the sides. Also, the mycelium colonized a lot of it.
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Re: Questions about fruiting... [Re: hayburner]
#21997148 - 07/25/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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hayburner said: Double post...
They are finally fruiting. I have them under a very powerful lamp.

Congrats OP. I hope you enjoy the fruits of your labor!
BTW, a powerful lamp is not required. A few hours of ambient sunlight everyday is more than enough.
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hayburner said: Double post...
They are finally fruiting. I have them under a very powerful lamp.

Congrats OP. I hope you enjoy the fruits of your labor!
BTW, a powerful lamp is not required. A few hours of ambient sunlight everyday is more than enough.
A 12/12 light schedule works best if you want a good pin set. And make sure the lamp isn't too close to the plastic bin. You want it hovering over the top.
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Psilosoulful said:
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Congrats OP. I hope you enjoy the fruits of your labor!
BTW, a powerful lamp is not required. A few hours of ambient sunlight everyday is more than enough.
A 12/12 light schedule works best if you want a good pin set. And make sure the lamp isn't too close to the plastic bin. You want it hovering over the top. 
The lamp creates enough heat to create the kind of air current that the SGFC is designed to function with, no?
And yeah, it's hovering over the top. I have it right next to the window now too, so it's getting some sunlight, though today it's pretty cool and cloudy.
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Re: Questions about fruiting... [Re: hayburner]
#21999554 - 07/26/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The lamp creates enough heat to create the kind of air current that the SGFC is designed to function with, no?
And yeah, it's hovering over the top. I have it right next to the window now too, so it's getting some sunlight, though today it's pretty cool and cloudy.
The lamp is to provide enough daylight-spectrum light for your mushrooms if they do not have access to ambient sunlight during the daytime. You need a bulb in the 6500K range. Mushrooms need sunlight to grow properly just like almost all other living things.
IMO, even the sunlight on a cloudy day far surpasses any light from an artificial source. My fruiting chambers just sit in a room with the curtain and blinds open every day and they receive about 8 - 12 hours of ambient sunlight per day. I've never had problems with weak pinsets.
Shotgun chambers do not require any air current. In fact, they do better in a room with little to no air current. The water on the perlite slowly evaporates and rises into the chamber. This evaporation causes more fresh air to be sucked up through the holes covering the perlite. This causes a constant slow-moving flow of air throughout your chamber which forces out the CO2 expelled by the mushrooms and draws in more oxygen. A heavy air current in the room will disrupt this flow and nullify the effects of the shotgun chamber.
The pinsets below are from nothing but natural ambient sunlight.
Edited by FungusOfTheBungus (07/26/15 12:10 PM)
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Re: Questions about fruiting... [Re: hayburner]
#22009184 - 07/28/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Questions about fruiting... [Re: hayburner]
#22009951 - 07/28/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Congrats OP! Good job. Keep us updated on your progress!
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