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OfflineKickleM
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Human connection
    #21972156 - 07/20/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just curious how others feel about human connection. That nebulous concept of syncing up with another. Sharing at a deeper level than the everyday. Experiencing emotions, thoughts, and sensations so close to home that you'd swear they were one's own even when they are not.

Do you enjoy that connection?
Does it scare you?

Do you have any understanding of what is happening? Speculation?

Can you, on command, connect with whoever you want? Or is it dependent on the person?

Is connection a spectrum, like sexuality? I really connect with person A but only barely connect with person B?

Share some theories and thoughts :smile:


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Re: Human connection [Re: Kickle]
    #21972338 - 07/20/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What is human connection?


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Re: Human connection [Re: xFrockx]
    #21972414 - 07/20/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That thing you start to experience when you leave your basement Frock. :lolsy:


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Re: Human connection [Re: Kickle] * 1
    #21973456 - 07/20/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have zero understanding. As I mentioned in another thread, I fell in love a few weeks back a decade after I had totally given up on even casual dating. We only spent a few hours together and the physical was minimal. We never even kissed.

I have been trying to examine it from every angle. Was she attractive? Sure, but I saw her at the 4th of July picnic before we even spoke and took no real notice. So what was it that got me twisted inside out?

No clue, but now I am willing to move heaven and earth for some random stranger and it makes no sense whatsoever.

It is the most powerful connection I have ever felt, even more than with my fiancé and other longtime lovers.

Dunno...


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Re: Human connection [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21973649 - 07/20/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I realize I am only spotlighting one specific type of connection, but this is very personal to me as it is a most unique experience to have so late in life.

In Achilles Tatius's Leucippe and Clitophon, the lover Clitophon thus describes his own experience of the phenomenon: "As soon as I had seen her, I was lost. For Beauty's wound is sharper than any weapon's, and it runs through the eyes down to the soul. It is through the eye that love's wound passes, and I now became a prey to a host of emotions..."[

Another classical interpretation of the phenomenon of "love at first sight" is found in Plato's Symposium in Aristophanes' description of the separation of primitive double-creatures into modern men and women and their subsequent search for their missing half: "... when [a lover] ... is fortunate enough to meet his other half, they are both so intoxicated with affection, with friendship, and with love, that they cannot bear to let each other out of sight for a single instant."


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Re: Human connection [Re: xFrockx]
    #21974459 - 07/21/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:thumbup: pretty weird man

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xFrockx said:
What is human connection?




lawl :smile:


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Re: Human connection [Re: Kickle]
    #21976946 - 07/21/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I believe human connection is when you are no longer intimidated by the person, when you feel comfortable and safe from the prying eyes of judgement and are able to freely express without fear of rejection.


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Re: Human connection [Re: sudly]
    #21977534 - 07/21/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nah, definitely not.

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Re: Human connection [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21977959 - 07/21/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
I have zero understanding. As I mentioned in another thread, I fell in love a few weeks back a decade after I had totally given up on even casual dating. We only spent a few hours together and the physical was minimal. We never even kissed.

I have been trying to examine it from every angle. Was she attractive? Sure, but I saw her at the 4th of July picnic before we even spoke and took no real notice. So what was it that got me twisted inside out?

No clue, but now I am willing to move heaven and earth for some random stranger and it makes no sense whatsoever.

It is the most powerful connection I have ever felt, even more than with my fiancé and other longtime lovers.

Dunno...




This is the first time you've said "Dunno..." in a decade...

Something must be up :loldongs:


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Re: Human connection [Re: Kickle]
    #21977975 - 07/21/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Is it even possible to connect with someone on demand.  People have to enjoy your company for them to connect with you and connecting takes bonding which means time spent with each other.  Although i'm sure there are some people like con-artists who are very good at manipulating people into a fake connection.  Being in a relationship (marriage, date, friend, coworker ect ect) and connecting with another person happens all on it's own.  As soon as it doesn't appear organic someone is going to get weird vibes.


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Re: Human connection [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21979430 - 07/22/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Is it even possible to connect with someone on demand.




This^

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"Every relationship is as good or as bad as it is because of the minds involved."

- Sam Harris





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Can you, on command, connect with whoever you want? Or is it dependent on the person?




A connection has to be dependent on the person. It is essentially dependent only on the person, and nothing else.


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Re: Human connection [Re: Kickle]
    #21980813 - 07/22/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Do you enjoy that connection?

It is pleasurable.

Does it scare you?

Yes, connection is a form of intoxication. Can lead to a decrease in judgement. People manipulate one another with connection.

Do you have any understanding of what is happening? Speculation?

Some sort of chemical release to encourage mating and socializing.

Can you, on command, connect with whoever you want? Or is it dependent on the person?

Dependent on the person.

Is connection a spectrum, like sexuality? I really connect with person A but only barely connect with person B?

Yeah.

Share some theories and thoughts :smile:

Human connection seems to be both one of the most pleasurable and painful things in life. It's hard to know who I can trust my heart with.


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Re: Human connection [Re: Kickle]
    #21980857 - 07/22/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It seems to me that it's an elaborate evolutionary mechanism.  For some, the mechanism is tuned improperly (stalkers, those with bipolar disorder, etc.).  It is in those sorts of individuals that the mechanistic side of it is particularly apparent.

I'm not trying to trivialize friendship or love here, just point out that it is a sort of innate function over which we really have no say at all.  I would say it is very much a spectrum (as in, a friend exists at a certain point, but not far enough that you'd want to fuck them).

Compatibility with another has absolutely nothing to do with choice, on any level.  You either strike it up or not, and if that person isn't right it won't go anywhere.  Sort of like a jigsaw puzzle.

I think ultimately this phenomenon's main reason for existing is to facilitate sexual intercourse, and the fact that alliances form through the same brain circuitry was a nice co-evolution for the eventual relative success of our species.  Once again, I have to stress that I feel it is essentially mechanistic.


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