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Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision?
#21971737 - 07/20/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've never done LSD either so I'm kind of curious.
She doesn't want to try LSD because it is man made, which I totally understand.
I know a lot of you do LSD as well as shroom.
How can you measure it?
Is it pretty safe? I know you can't OD on it..or so I think.
Any and all suggestions are welcome and appreciated!
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
#21971743 - 07/20/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do it, nuff said.
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd.shtml
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: SirShroomsAlott] 6
#21971749 - 07/20/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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tell her it's the same shit, but really its not, but really it is, just different
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: blackhawk] 1
#21971788 - 07/20/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't push her, respect her decision.
Don't be an asshole
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
#21971798 - 07/20/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MidwestShroomin said: I've never done LSD either so I'm kind of curious.
She doesn't want to try LSD because it is man made, which I totally understand.
I know a lot of you do LSD as well as shroom.
How can you measure it?
Is it pretty safe? I know you can't OD on it..or so I think.
Any and all suggestions are welcome and appreciated!
If she likes natural stuff then you should introduce her to datura (this is a joke, don't do this.) In all seriousness, her concerns aren't unreasonable. Not everything sold as LSD is in fact LSD, and some of the other drugs that get misrepresented as LSD can be harmful. Nothing wrong with sticking to what you feel safe with.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Patlal] 1
#21971804 - 07/20/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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She doesn't want to try LSD because it is man made, which I totally understand.
I don't. This is probably one of the most retarded reasons I've ever heard for not doing LSD. Does she take tylenol for her headaches? Coca leaves are all natural, is that a reason to do cocaine? What about opium?
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#21971819 - 07/20/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't know...I see where she is coming from. I have a rule that if it grows naturally and takes very little "process" before it gets to me, I'll try it. I don't like the idea of man made chemicals interacting with my organic chemicals. Know what I'm saying? I think it's her choice and that should be respected. Just my opinion...
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
#21971828 - 07/20/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MidwestShroomin said: I've never done LSD either so I'm kind of curious.
She doesn't want to try LSD because it is man made, which I totally understand.
I know a lot of you do LSD as well as shroom.
How can you measure it?
Is it pretty safe? I know you can't OD on it..or so I think.
Any and all suggestions are welcome and appreciated!
Does she use Tylenol for a head ache? Has she every eaten food with preservatives in it?
Fearing man made things is silly, there are just as many harmful naturally occurring compounds as there are man made ones.
I used to share this belief when I was young and ignorant, after researching it in depth I consider it to be less dangerous than vitamin C (physically not mentally)
Show her the information, but as others said don't pressure her. When it comes to these things it's best that she be willing of her own accord, too many bad trip reports from folks who have been coaxed into ingesting a drug they aren't entirely sure about.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: TXenlightenment]
#21971830 - 07/20/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I mean she's free to do whatever she pleases. But to say "Oh I don't wanna do it because its man made" is just an absolutely terrible reason.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: TXenlightenment]
#21971831 - 07/20/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MidwestShroomin said: I've never done LSD either so I'm kind of curious.
She doesn't want to try LSD because it is man made, which I totally understand.
I know a lot of you do LSD as well as shroom.
How can you measure it?
Is it pretty safe? I know you can't OD on it..or so I think.
Any and all suggestions are welcome and appreciated!
Lsd and shrooms are the safest drugs available. Cant over dose on either and both have the lowest dependence potential

You should also understand that many things you can find in nature can kill you like plants in the Nightshade family. Being semi-synthetic is not a legitimate reason to be afraid of a drug.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: TXenlightenment]
#21971833 - 07/20/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Acid has a way clearer headspace than mushrooms IME, and when I finally tried L, (waited years and years because of the whole, "organic vs rc" thing too ) I was blown away at how much easier of a ride it is. (granted you're doing moderate doses)
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
#21971841 - 07/20/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MidwestShroomin said: I've never done LSD either so I'm kind of curious.
She doesn't want to try LSD because it is man made, which I totally understand.
I know a lot of you do LSD as well as shroom.
How can you measure it?
Is it pretty safe? I know you can't OD on it..or so I think.
Any and all suggestions are welcome and appreciated!
You can't measure it unless you are laying the tabs yourself. Either that or get them from someone who has had their tabs sent in for testing.
It is very safe, I would even say it is safer than shrooms because the trip is less of a roller-coaster.
Get a test kit by the way
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21971975 - 07/20/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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acid is like you're in your own lil dreamworld where your imagination goes crazy and mushrooms brings you into its universe. that's opinion.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21971980 - 07/20/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: I mean she's free to do whatever she pleases. But to say "Oh I don't wanna do it because its man made" is just an absolutely terrible reason.
There isn't much downside to not trying any given recreational drug IMO. A belief that every naturally occurring drug is safe would be truly idiotic though.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: psi] 1
#21972019 - 07/20/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can absolutely trip your face off on acid just as you can on 'shrooms. Acid lasts longer. The problem with acid these days is there are so many other chemicals put on blotter that you don't know what you're getting. Imma stick with my homies that I grow. I know what they are. I don't always know how strong they are but I definitely know what they are.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: psi] 1
#21972044 - 07/20/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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My ex was like this about LSD as well
Nothing I said really changed her mind it took her a while to come around on her own and finally try it
It's her body and her choice so if she wants to be ignorant and disregard simple information than who are you to take that from her?
Anyway if you have a test kit you can always tell if what you have is actually LSD that's why the future is awesome
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#21972142 - 07/20/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: You can absolutely trip your face off on acid just as you can on 'shrooms. Acid lasts longer. The problem with acid these days is there are so many other chemicals put on blotter that you don't know what you're getting. Imma stick with my homies that I grow. I know what they are. I don't always know how strong they are but I definitely know what they are.
Yeah exactly. "I'm not trying this because I don't know for sure that it's safe" is perfectly reasonable logic. It may be working from ignorance, but there is no real downside to being over-cautious about what you put in your body when it comes to recreational drugs.
Personally I don't touch synthetic recreational drugs (any more.) With the clandestinely manufactured ones (including RCs) I don't trust that I'm getting what I think I am, and with pharmaceutical opiates, benzos, amphetamines etc I trust that they're most likely made and measured correctly but just think that those families of drugs are bad news (at least for me personally.) In neither case is it that I believe that synthetic drugs are necessarily harmful just by virtue of being synthetic.
It's the people who don't bother considering safety at all when deciding to ingest a drug who are being truly stupid. This is the kind of ignorance that can hurt you. A person not trying a drug because they recognize their ignorance of its composition and potential hazards is not being stupid, they're being smart.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: psi]
#21972172 - 07/20/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: You can absolutely trip your face off on acid just as you can on 'shrooms. Acid lasts longer. The problem with acid these days is there are so many other chemicals put on blotter that you don't know what you're getting. Imma stick with my homies that I grow. I know what they are. I don't always know how strong they are but I definitely know what they are.
Yeah exactly. "I'm not trying this because I don't know for sure that it's safe" is perfectly reasonable logic. It may be working from ignorance, but there is no real downside to being over-cautious about what you put in your body when it comes to recreational drugs.
Personally I don't touch synthetic recreational drugs (any more.) With the clandestinely manufactured ones (including RCs) I don't trust that I'm getting what I think I am, and with pharmaceutical opiates, benzos, amphetamines etc I trust that they're most likely made and measured correctly but just think that those families of drugs are bad news (at least for me personally.) In neither case is it that I believe that synthetic drugs are necessarily harmful just by virtue of being synthetic.
It's the people who don't bother considering safety at all when deciding to ingest a drug who are being truly stupid. This is the kind of ignorance that can hurt you. A person not trying a drug because they recognize their ignorance of its composition and potential hazards is not being stupid, they're being smart.
I mean I would personally rather take a chemical derived from a plant rather than synthesized in a lab, but at the end of the day, they're all just drugs. It really depends on what you believe in.
I personally believe that earth is the best chemist there is and that compounds derived from nature are pretty much gaurenteed to be clean (in the case of shrooms, obviously there are some plants out there with various other alkaloids in them) and there is no worry about impurities, synthesis error, getting a drug you didn't expect, etc.
But I still take drugs made in labs. They all affect our brains in similar ways, and each is giving an experience. Just because one is made in nature doesn't mean it is safer, but again depending on what people believe, it can yield a different type of experience.
A person who whole heartedly believes synthetic drugs are evil and bad for you will express that during the experience. A person who doesn't care will just see it as another unique psychedelic experience.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: psi]
#21972173 - 07/20/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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you should put some liquid l in your mouth then kiss her and try to get some l in there. and to the people who say you cant overdose on lsd you guys should become news reporters you atleast know about the things you say i litterally just saw on the news someone overdosed on lsd at some festival.....
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: stuckinwonderland] 1
#21972190 - 07/20/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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you don't know what you're talking about about, and neither to the people reporting the news.
It was most likely another drug passed off as L.
look at the ld50 for lsd and come back.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: stuckinwonderland] 1
#21972201 - 07/20/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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stuckinwonderland said: you should put some liquid l in your mouth then kiss her and try to get some l in there. and to the people who say you cant overdose on lsd you guys should become news reporters you atleast know about the things you say i litterally just saw on the news someone overdosed on lsd at some festival.....
Overdosing does not = acting like an asshole.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: stuckinwonderland]
#21972204 - 07/20/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: I mean she's free to do whatever she pleases. But to say "Oh I don't wanna do it because its man made" is just an absolutely terrible reason.
There isn't much downside to not trying any given recreational drug IMO. A belief that every naturally occurring drug is safe would be truly idiotic though.
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stuckinwonderland said: you should put some liquid l in your mouth then kiss her and try to get some l in there. and to the people who say you cant overdose on lsd you guys should become news reporters you atleast know about the things you say i litterally just saw on the news someone overdosed on lsd at some festival.....
It was an RC, the LD50 for LSD is insanely high and there are still no confirmed cases of someone dying exclusively from LSD.
Anything that reports to the contrary is sensationalist crap.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: stuckinwonderland] 1
#21972214 - 07/20/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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stuckinwonderland said: you should put some liquid l in your mouth then kiss her and try to get some l in there. and to the people who say you cant overdose on lsd you guys should become news reporters you atleast know about the things you say i litterally just saw on the news someone overdosed on lsd at some festival.....
Get out.. just get out
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
#21972231 - 07/20/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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how do i not know what im talking about i said the members who mentioned you cant overdose on lsd knew what they were talking about and the news reporters did not, which i said because im aware it was some rc
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: stuckinwonderland]
#21972252 - 07/20/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hard to read context in text, thought you were being sarcastic about us knowing what we're talking about
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: stuckinwonderland]
#21972254 - 07/20/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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stuckinwonderland said: you should put some liquid l in your mouth then kiss her and try to get some l in there. and to the people who say you cant overdose on lsd you guys should become news reporters you atleast know about the things you say i litterally just saw on the news someone overdosed on lsd at some festival.....
No one has died directly due to LSD.
When reports come out of people taking MDMA or LSD at festivals or clubs and dying is almost always due to research chemicals people have'nt heard of. News reporters prefer to use vocabulary people are familiar with, and since most people know what LSD is, they used it in place of an RC no one watching has heard of.
The most serious cases of acute LSD overdose have been bad, but never fatal.
Usually when people take crazy amounts (usually over 20mg or so) their breathing will actually slow down as they will not know when or how to breath. They have to have a tube put down their throats so they don't suffocate. On top of that, in those dosage ranges they usually give patients strong vasodilators because even though LSD only causes very minor constriction of blood vessels, when taken in extreme doses it can block off blood flow to the extremities.
Regardless, there are no fatalities. Also, most people don't take 20mg+ of LSD, let alone by themselves or without telling anyone
A usual LSD dose for psychedelia is around 100ug, whereas 20mg of LSD is 20000ug, which is like 200 doses
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: stuckinwonderland]
#21972259 - 07/20/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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stuckinwonderland said: how do i not know what im talking about i said the members who mentioned you cant overdose on lsd knew what they were talking about and the news reporters did not, which i said because im aware it was some rc
Use some goddamn punctuation or some shit. I don't like reading alphabet soup-like posts
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21972264 - 07/20/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said: I personally believe that earth is the best chemist there is and that compounds derived from nature are pretty much gaurenteed to be clean (in the case of shrooms, obviously there are some plants out there with various other alkaloids in them) and there is no worry about impurities, synthesis error, getting a drug you didn't expect, etc.
Yeah this is pretty much my stance. A plant or mushroom can pretty much be relied on not to produce unwanted chemicals not characteristic of its species. Potency wise it's a crapshoot, and in this area pharmaceuticals are far more reliable, but a marijuana plant is not going to surprise you with a fatal dose of ricin.
The belief that all natural drugs are safe is so stupid that I'm not sure anyone truly holds it when it really comes down to it. Some might claim this but I'd think pretty much everyone knows of some deadly plants if they stop to think about it.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21972274 - 07/20/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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no i am aware of what really happened i just thought it was strange to hear them say lsd. i was expecting research chemical bashing to spread fear of rcs on the news honestly
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
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Do not surreptitiously dose anyone ever. That is a total scumbag move. That is Fee class.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21972289 - 07/20/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Do not surreptitiously dose anyone ever. That is a total scumbag move.
this. unless they ask to be ninja dosed at your discretion.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21972290 - 07/20/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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stuckinwonderland said: no i am aware of what really happened i just thought it was strange to hear them say lsd. i was expecting research chemical bashing to spread fear of rcs on the news honestly
More like spread the fear of psychedelics, fucking propaganda. Maybe in the near future reporters will actually tell people what the autopsy said they took instead of lying and saying things like "Man dies from LSD overdose"
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zappaisgod said: Do not surreptitiously dose anyone ever. That is a total scumbag move. That is Fee class.
This x100
It is also extremely illegal
If she wants to be stupid, let her. Don't risk your relationship/freedom/whatever by forcing her to take something she doesn't want to.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
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How can you measure it?
Go in your moms kitchen and get one of her good pyrex measuring cups and put a pinch/smidge in it it then fill it to the 1/3 cup mark with ionized water(it has to be ionized)stir liberaly. then when it turns to the consistency of knox gellatine slice in half with a high carbon blade and that is 2 doses
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: r00tuuu123]
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How can you measure it?
Go in your moms kitchen and get one of her good pyrex measuring cups and put a pinch/smidge in it it then fill it to the 1/3 cup mark with ionized water(it has to be ionized)stir liberaly. then when it turns to the consistency of knox gellatine slice in half with a high carbon blade and that is 2 doses 
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21972492 - 07/20/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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TLDR whole thread but i can tell you my personal experience OP. when i was told i could get LSD as a kid... it wasnt fucking LSD. it was some RC someone put on paper and sold as acid... was it fun?.. FUCK YES. was it worth it? not in my opinion. i didnt like the way i felt afterwards and because my dumb ass just kept doing it over and over i think it damaged me somehow. thats just what i think.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Absolem0918]
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Absolem0918]
#21972519 - 07/20/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Absolem0918 said: TLDR whole thread but i can tell you my personal experience OP. when i was told i could get LSD as a kid... it wasnt fucking LSD. it was some RC someone put on paper and sold as acid... was it fun?.. FUCK YES. was it worth it? not in my opinion. i didnt like the way i felt afterwards and because my dumb ass just kept doing it over and over i think it damaged me somehow. thats just what i think.
Yeah again like I said, you must test it. It doesn't matter what your dealer, even if he's your best friend, says about the product. Anyone can call a psychedelic RC LSD and sell it to someone and then that someone will think that is what LSD like. RCs give bad experiences much more commonly than LSD will, so if your first "LSD" experience is actually an RC and you have an adverse reaction to it, that person will proably always want to avoid LSD.
Pick up an ehrlich reagent, and if you want to play it on the even safer side, pick up a marquis reagent kit too.
If it is positive on ehrlich, there is a 100% chance that it contains an indole (all typtamines and lysergamides have an indole structure as the backbone)
Really the only drugs that fit on blotters that are in those classes of drugs are lysergamides, and they are (anecdotally) much safer than NBOMe or DOx RCs that are commonly sold as acid.
The marquis will let you know if it is an nbome or DOx compound if it fails ehrlich, or whatever else it may be. You can also use marquis kits for testing MDMA, bath salts, dissasociatives, and a plethora of phenythylamines like speed, 2cb, and mescaline
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21972525 - 07/20/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21972648 - 07/20/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think acid is normally more lucid than mushrooms, at least for me - usually at least. My last acid trip blew my friends and I away, we were watching cosmos projected on the side of a house, and that and the acid just fucking crippled all of us for the come up, we pretty much just layed on some blankets and tried so hard to take it all in. It was so overwhelming.
I'd be upfront about the downsides :
it's a long chunk of time to devote to a trip. chances are it'll dehydrate you and make it harder to sleep. You'll probably feel a little funny the next day, not in any way that's as bad or anything like the hangover from alcohol. But if you're running around tripping for 10-12 hours, your mind and body are gonna get exhausted.
And honestly, those are the only one's I can think of off the top of my head, it's an incredibly safe drug as long as she's not taking something that would induce seratonin syndrome(happens rarely, and normally people who are on medications that interact with it just don't feel much at all compared to other people tripping with them, ime) I feel like acid gives me more insight and enlightenment than mushrooms - mushrooms have always kind of emotionally cleansed me by the end of the trip, but I can walk away from an acid trip feeling like I've learned so much.
I get a distinct afterglow with mushrooms, fall asleep easily, have an appetite. Acid isn't quite as comfortable, and sometimes it makes me tense my muscles involuntary, makes me feel dehydrated, and it's just a more stimulating experience in general.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: MidwestShroomin] 1
#21972688 - 07/20/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't sway her decision. She wants to keep it organic, what's wrong with that?
Acid lasts 4 hours too long anyway. It gets manic. On mushrooms you can actually feel more in control than you would sober. With acid there's nearly a certainty that you will eventually feel strung out, loopy, or manic.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: pirate-blues]
#21972714 - 07/20/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good points pirate!
An LSD experience is certainly very long, which drains you a lot. I normally don't eat or drink anything until about 8 hours in, unless I am hiking, where in that case consuming water isn't too hard.
I always spend the last 4 hours anxiously waiting for it to end. I am not saying that like I somehow had a bad experience or whatever, it's just that 12 hours is a very long time to be in such a crazy headspace and when you start to reach that thin line between barely tripping and sober, your mind cannot decide which it is.
Don't expect to be able to sleep for 13-16 hours after you dose, unless you take under 100ug.
Another thing I should mention, although it probably won't apply to the OP but rather people who use LSD frequently should be aware of: People, including myself, can be very prone to get HPPD from LSD much more than a tryptamine such as DMT or mushrooms.
I can almost promise you that you won't notice any after only one trip, but as you keep taking LSD you will begin to notice tracers and some very minor patterns, along with visual snow. I have found that a long break accompanied by a single MAGICAL, almost perfect LSD experience can reverse the HPPD it gives.
Bad, intense, or difficult trips are known to have a higher chance of giving people HPPD, again I am also speaking from experience along with anecdotes. It is a lot harder to have negative experiences on LSD than it is with shrooms, but it is still possible, especially when your doses are stronger than you expected. Just remember, it is just a drug, and it has never killed/harmed anyone. Bad trips are really easy to avoid on LSD with a good selection of music and friends who have experience taking psychedelics.
All in all, rest assured, LSD is extremely safe. The concerns about HPPD affect only a small percentage of people, and almost only occurs after prolonged use or irresponsible dosing/short breaks in between trips.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: ModestMouse]
#21972720 - 07/20/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: Don't sway her decision. She wants to keep it organic, what's wrong with that?
Acid lasts 4 hours too long anyway. It gets manic. On mushrooms you can actually feel more in control than you would sober. With acid there's nearly a certainty that you will eventually feel strung out, loopy, or manic.
Funny you said this, I just typed it in my post before I saw you said it as well.
The last 4 hours really drag on, it is just some minor visuals and an almost lethargic tiredness that you just kind of want to end. I usually end up trying to go to bed early because there are no visuals but my mind is still in psychedelic lala land and is all over the place.
Benzos and booze will allow you to sort of not have to worry about those last 4 hours as they can basically stop the trip.
If your trip was going pretty well though and during those last 4 or so hours you become sad that it is all over, I recommend some cannabis. It helps with the strung out feeling after 12 hours of LSD fueld craziness and it also brings some of the visuals back.
Usually if I smoke at hour 8 or 9 of an LSD trip, the visuals look like hour 4 or so (right after the peak) but the headspace remains the same ime.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Gottaloveacid] 1
#21972721 - 07/20/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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LSD is mild compared to shrooms. If she can handle shrooms, she can handle acid.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21972726 - 07/20/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I still have to try mescaline
I bet it would blow LSD and shrooms both out of the water
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: ModestMouse]
#21972728 - 07/20/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: Don't sway her decision. She wants to keep it organic, what's wrong with that?
Acid lasts 4 hours too long anyway. It gets manic. On mushrooms you can actually feel more in control than you would sober. With acid there's nearly a certainty that you will eventually feel strung out, loopy, or manic.
I concur. That and the fact that I don't trust what people tell me is acid anymore.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#21972761 - 07/20/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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OhMrJohnson said: I still have to try mescaline
I bet it would blow LSD and shrooms both out of the water
It lacks the "intensity" that LSD and shrooms have.
Aside from that though, mescaline visuals are almost exactly like LSD (in my experience, maybe a bit more magical and sparkly but same patterns, colors, morphing, etc) and the body high feels like a low MDMA dose, maybe 70-80mg with no tolerance.
I experienced entity contact on a food of cactus, which is crazy, but I really don't like how subtle the experience is. I feel like combining cactus with 2cb or MDMA might give it that needed intensity, but I would still rather do LSD and MDMA instead because it will still be more intense
I mean if I had to compare
Mescaline is to LSD what Kratom is to opiates in my opinion.
Same general effects, but just a little too subtle for my liking.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Gottaloveacid] 1
#21972903 - 07/20/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It (mescaline)lacks the "intensity" that LSD and shrooms have.
Same general effects, but just a little too subtle for my liking.
It's a shame you've never taken a good dose of mescaline.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: starfire_xes]
#21972938 - 07/20/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If I were to do it I'd boil like 2 feet of bridgesii to sludge and choke it all down at once because I'm crazy like that
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: starfire_xes]
#21972963 - 07/20/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The most I took where I knew the exact dosage was 500mg of mescaline hcl that was synthesized rather than extracted.
It was very visual, definitely similar to what I have gotten at around 300ug of LSD, but it just still wasn't as intense. Every time I have tried it, it feels more like a dream rather than a trip. It is very easy going and there are hardly, if any difficulties which can be very nice and tranquil if that is what you are looking for, but when I think of a psychedelic experience, I like to visualized the drug as some anxious little girl dragging my hand to go to the carnival.
Basically what that means is that once that tab goes on your tongue, you are in for a long ride that is full of surprises, mystery, joy, horror, etc haha
With mescaline it is very easy to just ease into the experience, it definitely stays true to it's phenythylamine roots and it just lacks the depth and craziness of tryptamines and even lysergamides in my opinion
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: stuckinwonderland]
#21973004 - 07/20/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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stuckinwonderland said: you should put some liquid l in your mouth then kiss her and try to get some l in there. and to the people who say you cant overdose on lsd you guys should become news reporters you atleast know about the things you say i litterally just saw on the news someone overdosed on lsd at some festival.....
that happened to my ex once. i took a lot of acid, we made out and she started feelin it hahaha
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: sanchothestoner]
#21973011 - 07/20/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Point out the article please. I find it hard to believe that the LSD was what killed them.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
#21973012 - 07/20/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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LSD is better than shrooms if you ask me.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: ModestMouse]
#21973027 - 07/20/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think I am actually gonna take a fuckload of cactus soon
That last mushroom trip at the festival didn't quite do it for me I need to be alone in silent darkness to reach a truly profound headspace
Prepare for an insane trip report in a few weeks lads
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Shroomism]
#21973036 - 07/20/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: LSD is better than shrooms if you ask me.
Obviously the preferred choice would be both of them at once
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#21973087 - 07/20/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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haha, i was going to suggest that. the thing is about that, the effects from both seem to be amplifed by quite a bit. there's not a whole lot of psychedelic experiences i have had that were that visually striking save 25c
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: 404]
#21973103 - 07/20/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I ate an eighth of shrooms and 2 hits of blotter at the festival a few weeks ago and it really wasn't that crazy the liquor probably made it a lot more mellow than it would've been
Plus psychedelics don't seem to hit me as hard in a social setting like a festival.. the really weird states of mind can only be achieved in solitude
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
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MidwestShroomin said:She doesn't want to try LSD because it is man made, which I totally understand.
When I was a teenager one of my close friends picked some Datura in his neighborhood because he read it would get him high. Then he gave a bunch out to people at school and put 3 people in the ICU. The idea that natural drugs are safe and synthetic ones are dangerous is complete and utter horseshit.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
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OhMrJohnson said: I ate an eighth of shrooms and 2 hits of blotted at the festival a few weeks ago and it really wasn't that crazy the liquor probably made it a lot more mellow than it would've been
Plus psychedelics don't seem to hit me as hard in a social setting like a festival.. the really weird states of mind can only be achieved in solitude
i completely disagree, it has to do with the potency of what you're taking, and what other drugs are in the system. i took several grams of cubes and ate them on top of 40 mg noopept or so maybe more and i've never tripped harder from mushrooms. it was so innapropriate of a time too, i thought i was having seizures and yada yada, was right smack dab in the middle of a music festival. bad choice.
ive combined two hits with .. well. several handfulls of shrooms. that turned out to be a really rough experience. probably because i took too many shrooms...
alcohol dampens the exitatory systems in the brain so i am willing to bet also that is what mellowed it out.
edit; i guess i should add... just because they are shrooms and you feel more in control most of the time (poster up above) doesn't mean that is always the case, you can lose control of the situation depending on how you dose. bad trips can happen with shrooms and with lsd. both are pretty safe though, it's merely a matter of preference if you know what you are getting is the real deal.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: 404]
#21973169 - 07/20/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well I'm sure choking down disgusting cactus juice until I barf my brains out will really hit the spot in a unique way
I love treating my trips like a ritual like hanging crazy trippy art on the wall and having a bunch of pillows on the ground so I can just sit cross-legged and sip the magic brew until my mind is gone
Oh boy now I'm making myself excited
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Patlal]
#21973210 - 07/20/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Heffy]
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MidwestShroomin said:She doesn't want to try LSD because it is man made, which I totally understand.
When I was a teenager one of my close friends picked some Datura in his neighborhood because he read it would get him high. Then he gave a bunch out to people at school and put 3 people in the ICU. The idea that natural drugs are safe and synthetic ones are dangerous is complete and utter horseshit.
This happened in my area. The lady thought she was picking mint
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: koods]
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Obviously there are harmful drugs in nature, and you shouldn't take them. The thing about drugs made in nature though is there is no risk for getting an RC, an improperly made drug, a dirty drug, or a cut drug.
No need for test kits when the drug you are taking is only inside one type of plant, and there are no harmfuls in it you have to worry about
But it is still a drug though, and that is where I draw the line. While I would feel much safer taking some natural shrooms than taking a drug out of a lab, even if it was tested with a reagent, taking something like LSD (a very safe drug that is only made by humans) will not affect the brain in a negative way.
People are welcome to make their own choices, and it isn't totally crazy that people find more comfort in taking something that they know is say a magical mushroom rather than take something that could be impure or has toxic residue. What is crazy though is thinking that somehow 100% pure LSD is bad for you whereas shrooms are not.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: koods]
#21974528 - 07/21/15 07:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MidwestShroomin said:She doesn't want to try LSD because it is man made, which I totally understand.
When I was a teenager one of my close friends picked some Datura in his neighborhood because he read it would get him high. Then he gave a bunch out to people at school and put 3 people in the ICU. The idea that natural drugs are safe and synthetic ones are dangerous is complete and utter horseshit.
Her not wanting to try a synthetic drug doesn't necessarily imply that she believes all natural drugs are safe.
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koods said: This happened in my area. The lady thought she was picking mint
Weird that the lack of any physical resemblance or minty smell didn't tip her off.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21975757 - 07/21/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: One 'shroom makes you gay. One. We all know this
Then the Shroomery should have a float in the gay pride parade, but we need a catchy slogan that rhymes with shroom.
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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
#21975772 - 07/21/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just stick with the mushrooms homie!
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