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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: MidwestShroomin] * 1
    #21972688 - 07/20/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Don't sway her decision.
She wants to keep it organic, what's wrong with that?

Acid lasts 4 hours too long anyway. It gets manic.
On mushrooms you can actually feel more in control than you would sober. With acid there's nearly a certainty that you will eventually feel strung out, loopy, or manic.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #21972714 - 07/20/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Good points pirate!


An LSD experience is certainly very long, which drains you a lot. I normally don't eat or drink anything until about 8 hours in, unless I am hiking, where in that case consuming water isn't too hard.

I always spend the last 4 hours anxiously waiting for it to end. I am not saying that like I somehow had a bad experience or whatever, it's just that 12 hours is a very long time to be in such a crazy headspace and when you start to reach that thin line between barely tripping and sober, your mind cannot decide which it is.

Don't expect to be able to sleep for 13-16 hours after you dose, unless you take under 100ug.



Another thing I should mention, although it probably won't apply to the OP but rather people who use LSD frequently should be aware of: People, including myself, can be very prone to get HPPD from LSD much more than a tryptamine such as DMT or mushrooms.

I can almost promise you that you won't notice any after only one trip, but as you keep taking LSD you will begin to notice tracers and some very minor patterns, along with visual snow. I have found that a long break accompanied by a single MAGICAL, almost perfect LSD experience can reverse the HPPD it gives.


Bad, intense, or difficult trips are known to have a higher chance of giving people HPPD, again I am also speaking from experience along with anecdotes. It is a lot harder to have negative experiences on LSD than it is with shrooms, but it is still possible, especially when your doses are stronger than you expected. Just remember, it is just a drug, and it has never killed/harmed anyone. Bad trips are really easy to avoid on LSD with a good selection of music and friends who have experience taking psychedelics.


All in all, rest assured, LSD is extremely safe. The concerns about HPPD affect only a small percentage of people, and almost only occurs after prolonged use or irresponsible dosing/short breaks in between trips.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #21972720 - 07/20/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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ModestMouse said:
Don't sway her decision.
She wants to keep it organic, what's wrong with that?

Acid lasts 4 hours too long anyway. It gets manic.
On mushrooms you can actually feel more in control than you would sober. With acid there's nearly a certainty that you will eventually feel strung out, loopy, or manic.




Funny you said this, I just typed it in my post before I saw you said it as well.

The last 4 hours really drag on, it is just some minor visuals and an almost lethargic tiredness that you just kind of want to end. I usually end up trying to go to bed early because there are no visuals but my mind is still in psychedelic lala land and is all over the place. 

Benzos and booze will allow you to sort of not have to worry about those last 4 hours as they can basically stop the trip.

If your trip was going pretty well though and during those last 4 or so hours you become sad that it is all over, I recommend some cannabis. It helps with the strung out feeling after 12 hours of LSD fueld craziness and it also brings some of the visuals back. 

Usually if I smoke at hour 8 or 9 of an LSD trip, the visuals look like hour 4 or so (right after the peak) but the headspace remains the same ime.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Gottaloveacid] * 1
    #21972721 - 07/20/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

LSD is mild compared to shrooms. If she can handle shrooms, she can handle acid.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21972726 - 07/20/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I still have to try mescaline

I bet it would blow LSD and shrooms both out of the water


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #21972728 - 07/20/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Don't sway her decision.
She wants to keep it organic, what's wrong with that?

Acid lasts 4 hours too long anyway. It gets manic.
On mushrooms you can actually feel more in control than you would sober. With acid there's nearly a certainty that you will eventually feel strung out, loopy, or manic.



I concur.  That and the fact that I don't trust what people tell me is acid anymore.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21972761 - 07/20/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I still have to try mescaline

I bet it would blow LSD and shrooms both out of the water




It lacks the "intensity" that LSD and shrooms have.

Aside from that though, mescaline visuals are almost exactly like LSD (in my experience, maybe a bit more magical and sparkly but same patterns, colors, morphing, etc) and the body high feels like a low MDMA dose, maybe 70-80mg  with no tolerance.

I experienced entity contact on a food of cactus, which is crazy, but I really don't like how subtle the experience is. I feel like combining cactus with 2cb or MDMA might give it that needed intensity, but I would still rather do LSD and MDMA instead because it will still be more intense


I mean if I had to compare

Mescaline is to LSD what Kratom is to opiates in my opinion.

Same general effects, but just a little too subtle for my liking.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Gottaloveacid] * 1
    #21972903 - 07/20/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It (mescaline)lacks the "intensity" that LSD and shrooms have.



Same general effects, but just a little too subtle for my liking.





It's a shame you've never taken a good dose of mescaline.  :smirk:


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #21972938 - 07/20/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If I were to do it I'd boil like 2 feet of bridgesii to sludge and choke it all down at once because I'm crazy like that


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #21972963 - 07/20/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The most I took where I knew the exact dosage was 500mg of mescaline hcl that was synthesized rather than extracted.

It was very visual, definitely similar to what I have gotten at around 300ug of LSD, but it just still wasn't as intense. Every time I have tried it, it feels more like a dream rather than a trip. It is very easy going and there are hardly, if any difficulties which can be very nice and tranquil if that is what you are looking for, but when I think of a psychedelic experience, I like to visualized the drug as some anxious little girl dragging my hand to go to the carnival.

Basically what that means is that once that tab goes on your tongue, you are in for a long ride that is full of surprises, mystery, joy, horror, etc haha


With mescaline it is very easy to just ease into the experience, it definitely stays true to it's phenythylamine roots and it just lacks the depth and craziness of tryptamines and even lysergamides in my opinion


If anyone else wants to chime in, feel free


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: stuckinwonderland]
    #21973004 - 07/20/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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you should put some liquid l in your mouth then kiss her and try to get some l in there. and to the people who say you cant overdose on lsd you guys should become news reporters you atleast know about the things you say i litterally just saw on the news someone overdosed on lsd at some festival.....




that happened to my ex once.  i took a lot of acid, we made out and she started feelin it hahaha


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #21973011 - 07/20/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Point out the article please.
I find it hard to believe that the LSD was what killed them.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
    #21973012 - 07/20/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

LSD is better than shrooms if you ask me.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #21973027 - 07/20/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think I am actually gonna take a fuckload of cactus soon

That last mushroom trip at the festival didn't quite do it for me I need to be alone in silent darkness to reach a truly profound headspace

Prepare for an insane trip report in a few weeks lads


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21973036 - 07/20/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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LSD is better than shrooms if you ask me.




Obviously the preferred choice would be both of them at once:wink:


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21973087 - 07/20/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

haha, i was going to suggest that. the thing is about that, the effects from both seem to be amplifed by quite a bit. there's not a whole lot of psychedelic experiences i have had that were that visually striking save 25c


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: 404]
    #21973103 - 07/20/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I ate an eighth of shrooms and 2 hits of blotter at the festival a few weeks ago and it really wasn't that crazy:shrug: the liquor probably made it a lot more mellow than it would've been

Plus psychedelics don't seem to hit me as hard in a social setting like a festival.. the really weird states of mind can only be achieved in solitude


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
    #21973104 - 07/20/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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MidwestShroomin said:She doesn't want to try LSD because it is man made, which I totally understand.





When I was a teenager one of my close friends picked some Datura in his neighborhood because he read it would get him high. Then he gave a bunch out to people at school and put 3 people in the ICU. The idea that natural drugs are safe and synthetic ones are dangerous is complete and utter horseshit.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21973135 - 07/20/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I ate an eighth of shrooms and 2 hits of blotted at the festival a few weeks ago and it really wasn't that crazy:shrug: the liquor probably made it a lot more mellow than it would've been

Plus psychedelics don't seem to hit me as hard in a social setting like a festival.. the really weird states of mind can only be achieved in solitude





i completely disagree, it has to do with the potency of what you're taking, and what other drugs are in the system. i took several grams of cubes and ate them on top of 40 mg noopept or so maybe more and i've never tripped harder from mushrooms. it was so innapropriate of a time too, i thought i was having seizures and yada yada, was right smack dab in the middle of a music festival. bad choice.

ive combined two hits with .. well. several handfulls of shrooms. that turned out to be a really rough experience. probably because i took too many shrooms...

alcohol dampens the exitatory systems in the brain so i am willing to bet also that is what mellowed it out.


edit; i guess i should add... just because they are shrooms and you feel more in control most of the time (poster up above) doesn't mean that is always the case, you can lose control of the situation depending on how you dose. bad trips can happen with shrooms and with lsd. both are pretty safe though, it's merely a matter of preference if you know what you are getting is the real deal.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: 404]
    #21973169 - 07/20/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well I'm sure choking down disgusting cactus juice until I barf my brains out will really hit the spot in a unique way

I love treating my trips like a ritual like hanging crazy trippy art on the wall and having a bunch of pillows on the ground so I can just sit cross-legged and sip the magic brew until my mind is gone

Oh boy now I'm making myself excited:sexymeow:


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