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OfflineMidwestShroomin
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Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision?
    #21971737 - 07/20/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've never done LSD either so I'm kind of curious.

She doesn't want to try LSD because it is man made, which I totally understand.

I know a lot of you do LSD as well as shroom.

How can you measure it?

Is it pretty safe? I know you can't OD on it..or so I think.

Any and all suggestions are welcome and appreciated!


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
    #21971743 - 07/20/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Do it, nuff said.

https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd.shtml


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: SirShroomsAlott] * 6
    #21971749 - 07/20/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

tell her it's the same shit, but really its not, but really it is, just different


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: blackhawk] * 1
    #21971788 - 07/20/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Don't push her, respect her decision.

Don't be an asshole


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
    #21971798 - 07/20/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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MidwestShroomin said:
I've never done LSD either so I'm kind of curious.

She doesn't want to try LSD because it is man made, which I totally understand.

I know a lot of you do LSD as well as shroom.

How can you measure it?

Is it pretty safe? I know you can't OD on it..or so I think.

Any and all suggestions are welcome and appreciated!





If she likes natural stuff then you should introduce her to datura (this is a joke, don't do this.) In all seriousness, her concerns aren't unreasonable. Not everything sold as LSD is in fact LSD, and some of the other drugs that get misrepresented as LSD can be harmful. Nothing wrong with sticking to what you feel safe with.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #21971804 - 07/20/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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She doesn't want to try LSD because it is man made, which I totally understand.





I don't. This is probably one of the most retarded reasons I've ever heard for not doing LSD. Does she take tylenol for her headaches? Coca leaves are all natural, is that a reason to do cocaine? What about opium?


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21971819 - 07/20/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know...I see where she is coming from.  I have a rule that if it grows naturally and takes very little "process" before it gets to me, I'll try it.  I don't like the idea of man made chemicals interacting with my organic chemicals.  Know what I'm saying?  I think it's her choice and that should be respected. Just my opinion...


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
    #21971828 - 07/20/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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MidwestShroomin said:
I've never done LSD either so I'm kind of curious.

She doesn't want to try LSD because it is man made, which I totally understand.

I know a lot of you do LSD as well as shroom.

How can you measure it?

Is it pretty safe? I know you can't OD on it..or so I think.

Any and all suggestions are welcome and appreciated!




Does she use Tylenol for a head ache? Has she every eaten food with preservatives in it?

Fearing man made things is silly, there are just as many harmful naturally occurring compounds as there are man made ones.

I used to share this belief when I was young and ignorant, after researching it in depth I consider it to be less dangerous than vitamin C (physically not mentally)

Show her the information, but as others said don't pressure her. When it comes to these things it's best that she be willing of her own accord, too many bad trip reports from folks who have been coaxed into ingesting a drug they aren't entirely sure about.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: TXenlightenment]
    #21971830 - 07/20/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I mean she's free to do whatever she pleases. But to say "Oh I don't wanna do it because its man made" is just an absolutely terrible reason.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: TXenlightenment]
    #21971831 - 07/20/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

MidwestShroomin said:
I've never done LSD either so I'm kind of curious.

She doesn't want to try LSD because it is man made, which I totally understand.

I know a lot of you do LSD as well as shroom.

How can you measure it?

Is it pretty safe? I know you can't OD on it..or so I think.

Any and all suggestions are welcome and appreciated!





Lsd and shrooms are the safest drugs available. Cant over dose on either and both have the lowest dependence potential



You should also understand that many things you can find in nature can kill you like plants in the Nightshade family. Being semi-synthetic is not a legitimate reason to be afraid of a drug.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: TXenlightenment]
    #21971833 - 07/20/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Acid has a way clearer headspace than mushrooms IME, and when I finally tried L, (waited years and years because of the whole, "organic vs rc" thing too :facepalm:)
I was blown away at how much easier of a ride it is. (granted you're doing moderate doses)


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: MidwestShroomin]
    #21971841 - 07/20/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

MidwestShroomin said:
I've never done LSD either so I'm kind of curious.

She doesn't want to try LSD because it is man made, which I totally understand.

I know a lot of you do LSD as well as shroom.

How can you measure it?

Is it pretty safe? I know you can't OD on it..or so I think.

Any and all suggestions are welcome and appreciated!




You can't measure it unless you are laying the tabs yourself. Either that or get them from someone who has had their tabs sent in for testing.

It is very safe, I would even say it is safer than shrooms because the trip is less of a roller-coaster.

Get a test kit by the way


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21971975 - 07/20/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

acid is like you're in your own lil dreamworld where your imagination goes crazy and mushrooms brings you into its universe.  that's opinion.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21971980 - 07/20/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Malcolm_Xtasy said:
I mean she's free to do whatever she pleases. But to say "Oh I don't wanna do it because its man made" is just an absolutely terrible reason.




There isn't much downside to not trying any given recreational drug IMO. A belief that every naturally occurring drug is safe would be truly idiotic though.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: psi] * 1
    #21972019 - 07/20/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You can absolutely trip your face off on acid just as you can on 'shrooms.  Acid lasts longer.  The problem with acid these days is there are so many other chemicals put on blotter that you don't know what you're getting.  Imma stick with my homies that I grow.  I know what they are.  I don't always know how strong they are but I definitely know what they are.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: psi] * 1
    #21972044 - 07/20/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

My ex was like this about LSD as well

Nothing I said really changed her mind it took her a while to come around on her own and finally try it

It's her body and her choice so if she wants to be ignorant and disregard simple information than who are you to take that from her?

Anyway if you have a test kit you can always tell if what you have is actually LSD that's why the future is awesome


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21972142 - 07/20/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You can absolutely trip your face off on acid just as you can on 'shrooms.  Acid lasts longer.  The problem with acid these days is there are so many other chemicals put on blotter that you don't know what you're getting.  Imma stick with my homies that I grow.  I know what they are.  I don't always know how strong they are but I definitely know what they are.





Yeah exactly. "I'm not trying this because I don't know for sure that it's safe" is perfectly reasonable logic. It may be working from ignorance, but there is no real downside to being over-cautious about what you put in your body when it comes to recreational drugs.

Personally I don't touch synthetic recreational drugs (any more.) With the clandestinely manufactured ones (including RCs) I don't trust that I'm getting what I think I am, and with pharmaceutical opiates, benzos, amphetamines etc I trust that they're most likely made and measured correctly but just think that those families of drugs are bad news (at least for me personally.) In neither case is it that I believe that synthetic drugs are necessarily harmful just by virtue of being synthetic.

It's the people who don't bother considering safety at all when deciding to ingest a drug who are being truly stupid. This is the kind of ignorance that can hurt you. A person not trying a drug because they recognize their ignorance of its composition and potential hazards is not being stupid, they're being smart.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: psi]
    #21972172 - 07/20/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You can absolutely trip your face off on acid just as you can on 'shrooms.  Acid lasts longer.  The problem with acid these days is there are so many other chemicals put on blotter that you don't know what you're getting.  Imma stick with my homies that I grow.  I know what they are.  I don't always know how strong they are but I definitely know what they are.





Yeah exactly. "I'm not trying this because I don't know for sure that it's safe" is perfectly reasonable logic. It may be working from ignorance, but there is no real downside to being over-cautious about what you put in your body when it comes to recreational drugs.

Personally I don't touch synthetic recreational drugs (any more.) With the clandestinely manufactured ones (including RCs) I don't trust that I'm getting what I think I am, and with pharmaceutical opiates, benzos, amphetamines etc I trust that they're most likely made and measured correctly but just think that those families of drugs are bad news (at least for me personally.) In neither case is it that I believe that synthetic drugs are necessarily harmful just by virtue of being synthetic.

It's the people who don't bother considering safety at all when deciding to ingest a drug who are being truly stupid. This is the kind of ignorance that can hurt you. A person not trying a drug because they recognize their ignorance of its composition and potential hazards is not being stupid, they're being smart.




I mean I would personally rather take a chemical derived from a plant rather than synthesized in a lab, but at the end of the day, they're all just drugs. It really depends on what you believe in.

I personally believe that earth is the best chemist there is and that compounds derived from nature are pretty much gaurenteed to be clean (in the case of shrooms, obviously there are some plants out there with various other alkaloids in them) and there is no worry about impurities, synthesis error, getting a drug you didn't expect, etc.

But I still take drugs made in labs. They all affect our brains in similar ways, and each is giving an experience. Just because one is made in nature doesn't mean it is safer, but again depending on what people believe, it can yield a different type of experience. 

A person who whole heartedly believes synthetic drugs are evil and bad for you will express that during the experience.  A person who doesn't care will just see it as another unique psychedelic experience.


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: psi]
    #21972173 - 07/20/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

you should put some liquid l in your mouth then kiss her and try to get some l in there. and to the people who say you cant overdose on lsd you guys should become news reporters you atleast know about the things you say i litterally just saw on the news someone overdosed on lsd at some festival.....


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Re: Gf is hesitant to take LSD but likes shrooms. How can I sway her decision? [Re: stuckinwonderland] * 1
    #21972190 - 07/20/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

you don't know what you're talking about about, and neither to the people reporting the news.

It was most likely another drug passed off as L.

look at the ld50 for lsd and come back.


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