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Nicotine withdrawal
    #21971035 - 07/20/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I really have to quit snus (smokeless tobacco), its making me stressed constantly and just blegh, im going to try starting tomorrow nic-free, ill have some benzos to help if needed.
What should i expect? Anyone wanna quit with me? :thumbup:


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: necrobytez]
    #21971065 - 07/20/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'll try...can't promise much since I've been saying I'm quitting tomorrow for like 2 years now

Expect to get agitated and annoyed by even tint things.


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: necrobytez]
    #21971078 - 07/20/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I used to smoke, and each time i've quit it hasnt been too hard on me. For a while i used an e cig, but i got bored of that aswell. Nowadays whenever i get the urge to smoke i usually get discouraged by the price of a pack, the amount of cigarettes i would have and the health effects. These things are usually enough to turn me off from it


Now, when i see someone smoking i think about how the cigarettes have enslaved them to keep smokin. Qutting is really hard for some people i guess, but it's not good for ya mate. Even the electronic one is bad. There hasn't been enough research to show that they are harmless or even better for you than normal cigs.

benzos are not the answer either, in my opinion. you should try to replace it with a better hobby. Sometimes if i drink a cup of coffee it helps to give me a similar boost of endorphines to my brain. Cigarettes are easy to give up if you know what to replace them with.

If you need to take one of those pills to stop you from poisoning yourself any longer, then by all means do it. But otherWISE you should go for a less radical route if you can.


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21971120 - 07/20/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'll try...can't promise much since I've been saying I'm quitting tomorrow for like 2 years now

Expect to get agitated and annoyed by even tint things.




Cmon son, let's do it!


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: necrobytez]
    #21971146 - 07/20/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

In all honesty, it sucks.
In my experience it's worse than quitting alcohol, opiates & benzos.
Expect a very stressful first week or two in particular.
Look into herbs that help keep you at ease for the beginning - weed, kratom, kava kava will help you tremendously.

I'd avoid alcohol for a bit too if I were you, alcohol was always what pulled me back into the habbit in the past before quitting for good.


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: Purplecapz]
    #21971170 - 07/20/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I used to smoke, and each time i've quit it hasnt been too hard on me. For a while i used an e cig, but i got bored of that aswell. Nowadays whenever i get the urge to smoke i usually get discouraged by the price of a pack, the amount of cigarettes i would have and the health effects. These things are usually enough to turn me off from it


Now, when i see someone smoking i think about how the cigarettes have enslaved them to keep smokin. Qutting is really hard for some people i guess, but it's not good for ya mate. Even the electronic one is bad. There hasn't been enough research to show that they are harmless or even better for you than normal cigs.

benzos are not the answer either, in my opinion. you should try to replace it with a better hobby. Sometimes if i drink a cup of coffee it helps to give me a similar boost of endorphines to my brain. Cigarettes are easy to give up if you know what to replace them with.

If you need to take one of those pills to stop you from poisoning yourself any longer, then by all means do it. But otherWISE you should go for a less radical route if you can.





I am a little confused by what you mean about ecigs not being safe. Obviously they remove the #1 harmful effect from smoking cigarettes, and that is the massive amount of smoke inhalation.

Nicotine itself can be carcinogenic though, regardless of what form you get it in, I am assuming this is what you mean?

To op-

Good luck, I have never had to deal with cigarettes too much aside from the occasional one while I am rolling so I am not sure how bad the WDs are, but just remember that they will be over soon. Keep the benefits in your mind to try and cover up the cravings


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21971247 - 07/20/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, That too but i dont know if its very safe still. The mechanism of an e cig is a metal coil which heats up. If certain metals, especially tiny coils that get hot fast reach a certain temperature they can release toxic chemicals.

Back in the day I used to smoke one, and sometimes it would give me a really harsh metallic tasting hit.

Even though they appear to be safer than real cigarettes and almost certainly are, this does not attest to their overall safety as a device in general. Given that the vapors are inhaled like a cigarette, you are absorbing whatever toxins that may or may not be in the vapor.


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: Purplecapz]
    #21971526 - 07/20/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You could try something like wellbutrin or chantax.


It might make you crazy, though. I was on it for depression after being on an SSRI that made me completely emotionally numb for like a year, and when I took wellbutrin last year I got knocked off my ass by all that pent up emotion and every single time I had a moment to myself throughout the day I was sobbing hysterically. I was pretty depressed about things in general, so it might've just been readjusting to actually feeling things again.

Otherwise it was aight.

I only smoked for two years. and I quit gradually over time so it wasn't bad. It was actually kind of unintentional - quitting was just in the back of my mind. I had a habit of not smoking for like 2 weeks or so, and then chainsmoke constantly for like a day or so, either from stress or because I was drinking(and could not resist enjoying a nice night by poisoning my lungs over drunken conversation, which is still sometimes hard to resist, but I manage). Then I'd take another 1-3 week break, and eventually I just didn't crave it anymore, and if I did, I'd end up smoking one and immediately regretting it. Chronic bronchitis around that time definitely helped, too. One cigarette would have me coughing violently for the next 24 hours.

Idk how much that method would work for you, because I feel like I was more addicted to the ritual of having a cigarette and sitting outside, or going for a long drive than nicotine itself - I had an e-cig for like a month before losing it, and that was what really set the quitting wheels in motion.


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: pirate-blues]
    #21971539 - 07/20/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Idk how much that method would work for you, because I feel like I was more addicted to the ritual of having a cigarette and sitting outside, or going for a long drive than nicotine itself - I had an e-cig for like a month before losing it, and that was what really set the quitting wheels in motion.




While I haven't been addicted to cigs before, this is the only thing about them I find appealing, which is just the act of smoking them. I only really like menthols because the sensation you get from smoking and the sensation you get from menthol feel really awesome to me, but I hate the smell of tobacco and nicotine was never my cup of tea


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21971840 - 07/20/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I quit cold Turkey may 25th after at least a 16 yr addiction. Plan on wanting to kill everybody for a while. It gets easier I promise. If ya need to talk it out leemme know


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: Purplecapz]
    #21971937 - 07/20/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah, That too but i dont know if its very safe still. The mechanism of an e cig is a metal coil which heats up. If certain metals, especially tiny coils that get hot fast reach a certain temperature they can release toxic chemicals.

Back in the day I used to smoke one, and sometimes it would give me a really harsh metallic tasting hit.

Even though they appear to be safer than real cigarettes and almost certainly are, this does not attest to their overall safety as a device in general. Given that the vapors are inhaled like a cigarette, you are absorbing whatever toxins that may or may not be in the vapor.




The A1 Kanthal wire used in most e-cig coils does not get hot enough to give off fumes

As for the rest of your post, many studies have been performed proving that in general the vapor from e-cigs is in fact roughly 100 times less harmful to the body than tobacco products

I suggest you stop spreading misinformation and educate yourself, there's a link in Shroomism's signature that goes into great detail on the safety of e-cigs and e-juice

It irks me when people make their own conclusions about e-cigs when they haven't done the research and don't actually know what they're talking about

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21729582

If you really have a penchant for staying nicotine-free however, physical exercise helps a lot with resisting the cravings and breaking yourself free of the bad habit(s)

But I think you people would be surprised to know that nicotine is actually not carcinogenic or harmful in the small amounts you ingest through vaping - it actually has several medicinal benefits as well.. it is no more harmful to the body than caffeine, it simply has a bad reputation because it is associated with tobacco, which contains thousands of chemicals, hundreds of which are known to be harmful and dozens known to be carcinogenic.

Propylene glycol has been used in hospital ventilation systems for over 70 years because it is a potent germicide and actually promotes lung health; vegetable glycerin is simply metabolized by the lungs into harmless organic compounds, which are already found in our body

The only variable that could prove dangerous is the flavorings, but if that concerns you then simply vape flavor-free ejuice; I myself don't give a fuck because vapor is delicious


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21972975 - 07/20/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Wooah buddy. I have not come to any conclusions based on my speculation, but it is nice to know they are doing studies.

It would be nice if you could post some of the material? or send a link?

To each his own.

I was merely stating an opinion of mind, and im sorry that you perceived it as me trying to disinform people lol.


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: Purplecapz]
    #21973072 - 07/20/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's exactly what you were doing:lol: don't deny it grasshopper

But it's okay don't take my word for it check out that link I posted above give it a thorough read and you will see for yourself


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21986560 - 07/23/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I can't make it! Lol, and you guys talkin about e-cigs, fucko that! It's all about



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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: necrobytez] * 1
    #21986573 - 07/23/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Chewing tobacco is gross as mother fucking fuck.


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: Zombi3]
    #21986586 - 07/23/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's swedish loose snus :smile: some people here on shroomery probably knows how good it is, and how its the healthiest tobacco option, no one has ever died or got cancer from it :smile: its good shit! Im dreaming while awake to this shiiit! Its so delicious, come over and try some :smile:

And i can definetely see how outsiders think its gross as fahk, but using it, it feels mad fresh in your mouth, fresher than cigs.


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: necrobytez]
    #21986661 - 07/23/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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no one has ever died or got cancer from it :smile: it feels mad fresh in your mouth, fresher than cigs.



You're delusional :lol:

"Smokeless tobacco products obviously don't burn. But smokeless tobacco is a major cause of oral cancer, pancreatic cancer, and esophageal cancer."



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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: Zombi3]
    #21986664 - 07/23/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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no one has ever died or got cancer from it :smile: it feels mad fresh in your mouth, fresher than cigs.



You're delusional :lol:

"Smokeless tobacco products obviously don't burn. But smokeless tobacco is a major cause of oral cancer, pancreatic cancer, and esophageal cancer."






Do some research first :smile: its widely known what i've said. About swedish snus that is, them indians have shitty tobacco, dip is pretty alright but still theres a chance for cancer, but they ferment the tobacco which swedish snus doesnt.
It's getting extremely popular over there in the americas


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: necrobytez]
    #21986669 - 07/23/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It took one Google search to find compelling evidence to the contrary. I think you need to do some more research.


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Re: Nicotine withdrawal [Re: Zombi3]
    #21986673 - 07/23/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It took one Google search to find compelling evidence to the contrary. I think you need to do some more research.




That made me crack up laughing. Go to snus reddit or something and ask. Or just do more research.. :P Theres even a 60 minutes(the tv show) on snus. Trust me i've researched it to death, if it was minutely bad i would throw it away and never look back.

Even dip is 99% "healthier" than cigs. Im a tobacco expert if i might say so myself.

In sweden there is more snusers than smokers, and sweden has the lowest tobacco related diseases than any other country IN THE WORLD.


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