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Asante
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The Great Pub Fluoridated Toothpaste Debate
#21970963 - 07/20/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MOST OF US HAVE TEETH and tend to brush them regularly, of those who do, most use toothpaste.
Toothpaste comes in many guises but lets for the purpose of this topic divide them in toothpastes WITH and WITHOUT Fluoride.
Theres a lot of fierce discussion between people in favor of, and against, drinking water fluoridation and fluoridation in general.
Some insist that any use of it is bad, others insist certain uses have benefits.
Lets NOT discuss any other fluoridation than that of toothpaste and let us back up our information with sources.
What is the junk science? Is there actual benefit or is it harmful?
Let's not make this a conspiracy topic.

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Re: The Great Pub Fluoridated Toothpaste Debate [Re: Asante]
#21970992 - 07/20/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I use non fluoridated toothpaste and my municipality doesn't add fluoride to water. My mother also made sure we never got fluoride treatments at the dentist (thanks mom)
I tend to believe it does more harm than good and I don't really believe its put in the water for dental health.
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Re: The Great Pub Fluoridated Toothpaste Debate [Re: Shins]
#21971030 - 07/20/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll be honest, I never really read the ingredients of toothpaste. I buy the ones that has the word "whitening" on them....
I'm a stupid toothpaste shopper
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Re: The Great Pub Fluoridated Toothpaste Debate [Re: Patlal]
#21971144 - 07/20/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I drink about a 1.5 gallons of water a day that has fluoride in it. I use fluoride toothpaste too. I've been using both for over 30 years and I'm still in pretty good shape. When I go to the dentist I'm pretty sure they put some kind of thick fluoride paste over my teeth too
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Re: The Great Pub Fluoridated Toothpaste Debate [Re: Lophosaurus]
#21971178 - 07/20/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I use fluoridated toothpaste but not everyday, I am a lazy brusher, always have been always will be.
I have never had fluoridated water, but I imagine that is a lot worse for you as the fluoride goes into your body rather than just in your mouth and back out
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Re: The Great Pub Fluoridated Toothpaste Debate [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21971202 - 07/20/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Flouride should be apploed to the teeth if its to be used for dental health, I've never unserstood how drinking it into your stomach helps your teeth at all. Seems more like a conspiracy either to sedate people and/or dispose of nuclear waste. (The stuff they put in water is a byproduct of nuclear energy)
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Re: The Great Pub Fluoridated Toothpaste Debate [Re: Shins]
#21971215 - 07/20/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You never understood - and therefore, it's a conspiracy. There must be many conspiracies in your world.
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Re: The Great Pub Fluoridated Toothpaste Debate [Re: Asante]
#21971218 - 07/20/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Asante said: Let's not make this a conspiracy topic. .
You sure can be gullible huh?
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Re: The Great Pub Fluoridated Toothpaste Debate [Re: Shins]
#21971251 - 07/20/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Shins said: Flouride should be apploed to the teeth if its to be used for dental health, I've never unserstood how drinking it into your stomach helps your teeth at all. Seems more like a conspiracy either to sedate people and/or dispose of nuclear waste. (The stuff they put in water is a byproduct of nuclear energy)
I don't think it is a conspiracy, just bad science from many years ago that lazy officials are too lazy to admit is incorrect...
When you brush your teeth and drink/eat right afterwards, it defeats the purpose of the fluoride because it comes right off your teeth. It is supposed to soak into the enamel to strengthen it. So when you drink fluoridated water, none of it is sticking to your teeth. Not to mention you are also eating food while drinking that fluoridated water, which makes it even harder for it to stick to your teeth.
Fluoridated water = bad for you, no benefits (even to teeth)
Fluoridated toothpaste = Rebuilds enamel if used properly, do not swallow
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Re: The Great Pub Fluoridated Toothpaste Debate [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21971282 - 07/20/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm AGAINST fluoridated water, for the reason people mention: almost all of it either ends up in the environment without having had medicinal purpose (washing your car, showering, flushung the toilet) or ends up in your body without contacting the teeth.
I'm IN FAVOR of fluoridated toothpaste though, its direct application upon the teeth of a substance that improves the acid resistance of enamel.
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Re: The Great Pub Fluoridated Toothpaste Debate [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21971293 - 07/20/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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WebMd is saying that fluoride can strengthen bones. Is that false?
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Re: The Great Pub Fluoridated Toothpaste Debate [Re: Lophosaurus]
#21971313 - 07/20/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its true but a bit too much weakens them considerably.
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Re: The Great Pub Fluoridated Toothpaste Debate [Re: Asante]
#21971324 - 07/20/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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What's tooth paste?
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Re: The Great Pub Fluoridated Toothpaste Debate [Re: Asante]
#21971329 - 07/20/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Interesting. I drink like a gallon of fluoride water at work and when I get home I switch to spring water or filtered water. I guess I should see how many mg are in my cities water so I don't get glass bones
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