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Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm 1
#21969373 - 07/20/15 05:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vid or it didn't happen:
Let's discuss this.
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: Asante] 1
#21969383 - 07/20/15 06:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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To be honest I never cared about this whole hurp derp were mistreating animals bullshit. I try to avoid factory farmed food just because it's laced with anti bacterials and hormones and shit but as far as the Peta movement they're all a bunch of social justice warriors fighting for the "rights" of animals who have brains the size of a walnut and if it weren't for domestication, would have completely died out and gone extinct from their own stupidity if we didn't breed them for the food.
We're the top of the food chain. Do you think a lion cares about how a zebra is treated?
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: Psychonautica] 3
#21969410 - 07/20/15 06:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yknow I used to think that way too. But having growin' up in a place like small town a Texas it was easy to have that outlook on this issue. But having grown up a bit I now realize through a lot of psychedelics, time, philosophy and frankly a whole lot of maturing I've realized that kindness to our food supply isn't only a kindness issue. It also truly effects the flavor of the animal you're eating. On the backside of that there are an ass pile of people on the planet, crickets taste like shit, and we have to try and feed every hungry mouth. Somewhere in there lies the answer but as an old farmer once told me, "If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'.". So don't believe the organic, free range hype.
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: Psychonautica] 5
#21969528 - 07/20/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psychonautica said: We're the top of the food chain. Do you think a lion cares about how a zebra is treated?
Perhaps the lions would care if they were evolved in a way to keep zebra crowded and captive for harvest.
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: birdeatingspider]
#21969533 - 07/20/15 07:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Only if they ingested enough hormones from the plant and animal domestication to have absurdly high estrogen levels and turning them into whiny little prisses who only want to eat rocks and skip around naked in fields of flowers 24/7.
Animals kill other animals. And it's usually not very humane.
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: Psychonautica]
#21969560 - 07/20/15 07:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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As barbaric as how lions hunt may seem it is actually quite humane as they, after capture, will immediately sever air intake at the jugular. This is seen throughout the animal kingdom and I am all for it, its sexy.
It's the unfair advantage that keeping livestock for slaughter that gets me. There is too great of a difference between going into the bush with a bowie knife verses keeping an animal in a cage so small they can't move their entire short life until the salvation of death meets them.
The worst existence as prey is one kept for slaughter by humans. I would so much rather be taken by a mountain lion as I'd never even know I was being stalked.
It's a matter of moral consciousness and emotional intelligence, not everyone has it I guess.
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: birdeatingspider]
#21969569 - 07/20/15 07:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you honestly think cows and chickens are intelligent enough to have avoided extinction on their own?
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: Psychonautica]
#21969578 - 07/20/15 07:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, I honestly think we are intelligent enough to find humane alternatives to how we keep livestock and how we slaughter. The current situation is sheer laziness.
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: Psychonautica]
#21969595 - 07/20/15 07:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psychonautica said: Do you honestly think cows and chickens are intelligent enough to have avoided extinction on their own?
I think bovines and birds are doing pretty damn awesome on their own, I don't think they need humnan intelligence to help them survive.
What are you even saying? Jellyfish make it on their own.
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: birdeatingspider]
#21969603 - 07/20/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's not laziness. it's cost efficient and there are mouths to feed. If we raised every animal that's most likely too stupid to even realize it's being mistreated better than we treat human beings then the entire world would starve real fucking quick.
Way to dodge the question is and give a completely different answer in a typical hippy way though.
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: Psychonautica] 3
#21969627 - 07/20/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psychonautica said: Do you honestly think cows and chickens are intelligent enough to have avoided extinction on their own?
Yes but I doubt you could.
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: Psychonautica]
#21969638 - 07/20/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cows are pretty smart, and I'd bet they'd survive fine without humans. They're a large pack animal for crying out load.
Chickens are decently intelligent to. Not to the point of a lot of birds, but decent enough. Wild chickens exist in quite a few areas btw.
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: Achillita]
#21969642 - 07/20/15 08:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well his argument was he didn't believe in farmed animals.
As if hunting a wild cow would be sporting at all. You'd just slowly walk up to it and shoot it. How is that different than raising it for slaughter? It's not going to run away or anything.
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: Psychonautica]
#21969658 - 07/20/15 08:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wild bison run away. So do wild anythings really. Cows are pretty docile because we raise them. I've seen a cow attack a coyote, they can attack pretty fucking badly.
I see nothing wrong with ranching, just as long as they aren't doing this shit they do here.
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: Achillita] 2
#21969668 - 07/20/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah exactly we're gonna farm animals but we have a responsibility to do it in a way that the animals don't suffer needlessly and living conditions should always be as clean and stress free as what was found in their once natural habitat.
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: Achillita]
#21969672 - 07/20/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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They fuck up the chickens cicadian rythem by not giving it sunlight
I learned that once from a weed farmer
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: Konyap]
#21969690 - 07/20/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I feel like we should be more worried about how we're treating other people and fix that before we worry about how we treat our food.
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: Psychonautica] 2
#21969701 - 07/20/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psychonautica said: Well his argument was he didn't believe in farmed animals.
As if hunting a wild cow would be sporting at all. You'd just slowly walk up to it and shoot it. How is that different than raising it for slaughter? It's not going to run away or anything.
Dude, you don't know cows, seriously! Slowly walk up to it and shoot it? Jesus, that's how you get killed man. Even the incredibly tame cows we have nowadays are pretty dangerous, let alone wild bovines.
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Psychonautica said: I feel like we should be more worried about how we're treating other people and fix that before we worry about how we treat our food.
It's all part of the same problem: a lack of compassion and too much "me-me-me!" attitude.
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: Psychonautica] 5
#21969702 - 07/20/15 08:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Chicken Factory Farmer Speaks Out - Lets Animal Rights Org Film On His Factory Farm [Re: passifloracaerulea]
#21969712 - 07/20/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was stalked by a cow last week while solo tripping in the forest walking along a forest service road. At one point she charged me but I yelled at her an she shied away.
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