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MagicalOrangutan
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wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!?
#21968245 - 07/20/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Preface: I tried the brand name Dramamine a few times before, but that has some other nasty active ingredient, and that made me feel crappy at two tablets of it.
I now have genetic night time sleep aid from Kroger that has ONLY diphenhydramine as an active ingredient
hopefully taking 100 mg diphenhydramine 3 days ago didn't make my tolerance really high right now, but I've taken 150 mg over the past hour
I might take 50 more mg to make it 200 mg
PURE diphenhydramine is NOTHING like Dramamine which has some shitty other active ingredient. Pure diphenhydramine so far just decreases my short term memory and is making me dreamy/sleepy
There's no hint of any unpleasant side effects
Maybe this is more pleasant because I drank way too much caffeine today, which takes away some of the excessive sedative effects?
Who here feels diphenhydramine, if it's pure is vastly different thanDramamine etc, and is possibly underestimated?
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: MagicalOrangutan] 2
#21968254 - 07/20/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That shit is whack. Seein spiders and shit.,
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#21968267 - 07/20/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That was a quality post. sanchothestoner's was the winner on the day though.
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: abltsandwich] 2
#21968274 - 07/20/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
abltsandwich said: That shit is whack. Seein spiders and shit.,
Real talk
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: Zombi3]
#21968286 - 07/20/15 12:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Took another 50 mg now at 200 mg diphenhydramine. That is absolutely the farthest I will take it.
Idk. Actually it's just consistently making me feel..good..chill, truthfully.relaxed..seems to be eliminating the severe anxiety usually have
But this will be intense, I'm starting to feel like I'm mentally fading out slightly, lol. Not as intense as psychedelia tho.
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#21968293 - 07/20/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Last few years I've used dph in high doses as a sleeping aid. Was taking around 250mg a night. I dunno what recreational value it could possibly have. It just makes me want to sleep. I've taken twice that on a couple of occasions. Was a very shitty experience. All it did was make it difficult to talk and impossible to walk. I didn't take it to get high though, it was on very stressful occasions when I knew I needed to sedate myself to a point of total incapacitation before doing something stupid. It works for that. Take 20 or 30 Benadryl I guarantee you won't be able to do a fucking thing.
As for it being pure/different, couldn't tell you. I don't take the shit to get high, don't take Dramamine to get high either. Deliriants in general make for a really fucking horrible "high". I'm sure a few people out there enjoy it, but most don't. Using them for a high is kind of down there with drinking prison wine to get drunk. Just reeks of desperation.
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: Shroomslip]
#21968302 - 07/20/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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700mg dph is where shit got FUCKED UP for me.
I don't advise.
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: Shroomslip] 1
#21968305 - 07/20/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Diphenhydramine (benadryl) and Dimenhydrinate(Dramamine) are two different drugs, so i'd imagine their dosages and effects are different even if they are in the same class of drugs
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MagicalOrangutan
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: Shroomslip]
#21968307 - 07/20/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not trying to get high, I'm trying to end caffeine induced insomnia for the night, and moreover, satisfy some mild curiosity
It doesn't at all feel unpleasant tho
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#21968310 - 07/20/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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that stuff never helped me sleep.
it makes me tired during the day, but taking it at night to try to get it sleep doesnt work at all for me
i also think those strong anti-cholinergic allergy medications are anxiogenic .
just IME though
Edited by Adolin (07/20/15 12:37 AM)
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: Adolin]
#21968345 - 07/20/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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it seems to be somewhat anxiolytic (spelling?) to me so far at this moderate dose hmm, not exactly calming just chilling to the nerves/emotions
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: Zombi3]
#21968363 - 07/20/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Zombi3 said:
Quote:
abltsandwich said: That shit is whack. Seein spiders and shit.,
Real talk
Yup.
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: Adolin]
#21968376 - 07/20/15 12:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The stuff is pretty enjoyable as long as you don't take too much.
Seeing light spiders crawling all over you, and picking them off one by one, is not a lot of fun.
Taking enough to reach just under the threshold of visuals provides a pretty decent body high though
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: Adolin]
#21968395 - 07/20/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gresh said: Diphenhydramine (benadryl) and Dimenhydrinate(Dramamine) are two different drugs, so i'd imagine their dosages and effects are different even if they are in the same class of drugs
I didn't know this before looking it up, as I was puzzled why he would even consider comparing the two, but apparently, Dramamine is a mixture of DPH and something else.
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: MilkdudTitties]
#21968405 - 07/20/15 12:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This kid I knew growing up killed himself with it. He grew up a spoiled brat, his dad owned several banks so he got everything he wanted. He then became a druggie, moved to cali because he got expelled from school. Went on a drug rampage and robbed a liquor store or pharmacy i forgot. All just at the age of like 18.. This kid had potential too. He was in all the honors courses early on and wasn't stupid. Learned early in the year he died by taking a shit ton of allergy medication. My only guess would be it was benadryl. I doubt he was trying to trip, he honestly probably wanted to die sadly.
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: Zombi3] 1
#21968408 - 07/20/15 12:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: 700mg dph is where shit got FUCKED UP for me.
I don't advise.
I don't advise either.. In high doses it's a really shitty experience. One of those experiences where as soon as it kicks you in the face with a 30 pound steel toed boot all you can think to yourself is "why?". IME you can't even form enough of a cognitive thought to think "I'll never do this again".
Body and mind just pretty much shut down.
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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way. I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today. Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear. I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear. You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: Gorlax] 1
#21968417 - 07/20/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's honestly not even something that should cross your mind to use to get high. Almost on par with thinking huffing gasoline is a good idea haha.
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: Shroomslip] 2
#21968435 - 07/20/15 12:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can't unsee the shit you see deep on diphenhydramine
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: MagicalOrangutan] 1
#21968810 - 07/20/15 01:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This post has the potential to get people hurt.
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: lowbrow]
#21969031 - 07/20/15 03:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm with lowbrow. When I was a teenager, it and nodoz was all the rage (amongst other things - this is just the stuff I can recall at the moment) I had a friend who turned me onto it, he was last seen in state psych ward. I have done it a total of 5 times; 4 in my teens and one more pivotal time in my early 20's. The first times were harmless, what I remember (aside from the disturbingly confusing experience) is that I had to at least double the dose every time, even after months of time in between uses, this is probably why this friend got put away, word on the street was he was found in a parking lot suckin his thumb pants around his ankles and fought the cops to beat hell. I had fun, witch was why I came back to it for a 5th go. That night I landed in jail (still tripping hard, like blastoff from self, nobody home) I didn't know what my name was, what I had done, why I was in jail, took about 30 hours to regain some recollection of the year or two of my life leading up to that previous night, its taken years to remember scraps from my blackout, and even then most of it is really just 2nd hand accounts.
DONT DO DRAMAMINE!!! Go pick some fucking mushrooms or eat some morning glory seeds for fucks sake, that shit aint fucking right.
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Re: wow, I severely underestimated DIPHENHYDRAMINE!!? [Re: Shroomslip]
#21969350 - 07/20/15 05:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Shroomslip said:
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Gresh said: Diphenhydramine (benadryl) and Dimenhydrinate(Dramamine) are two different drugs, so i'd imagine their dosages and effects are different even if they are in the same class of drugs
I didn't know this before looking it up, as I was puzzled why he would even consider comparing the two, but apparently, Dramamine is a mixture of DPH and something else.
Right, a chemical mixture. Dimenhydrinate is an analog, for lack of a better word, for diphenhydramine.
Also, diphenhydramine is related to datura (scopolamine):
Following the description of the structure and activity of scopolamine by Ladenburg, the search for synthetic analogues of and methods for total synthesis of scopolamine and/or atropine in the 1930s and 1940s resulted in the discovery of diphenhydramine, an early antihistamine and the prototype of its chemical subclass of these drugs, and pethidine, the first fully synthetic opioid analgesic, known as Dolatin and Demerol amongst many other trade names.
Pharmacology for Anesthetists 5. John D. Current, M.D. p. 195
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