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Re: poor man's v-tek [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21992566 - 07/24/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You're just going to have to play with the fruiting conditions on those pb jars.  Maybe start with loose Polly, then remove if neeeded.





You mean put it in a FC with holes that can be stuffed, or do you mean put a loose puff of polly in the jar's mouth? As it is, what I have been doing is taking off the lid and fanning the jar for a bit and then setting the lid back on loosely.


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Re: poor man's v-tek [Re: jesuisravi]
    #21992646 - 07/24/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I meant loosely stuffing the hole.  Maybe remove it once the pinset comes in.  What you're doing should work.  If you see tiny anemic caps on huge stems with fuzzy feet, you know you need to up the ge.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
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Re: poor man's v-tek [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21992655 - 07/24/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I meant loosely stuffing the hole.



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Re: poor man's v-tek [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21993035 - 07/24/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Machiavelliavore said:
I meant loosely stuffing the hole.



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almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ”
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Re: poor man's v-tek [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21993072 - 07/24/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I meant loosely stuffing the hole.  Maybe remove it once the pinset comes in.  What you're doing should work.  If you see tiny anemic caps on huge stems with fuzzy feet, you know you need to up the ge.




As it is I have a polyfill filter in the lid of the jars--except for the quart ziplock containers. But yes, I will try to give them plenty of air. It has been years since I have gone through this process of coaxing mycelium into becoming mushrooms


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Most of my beliefs I acquired from my father and from John Wayne, and anything that wasn't ultra tough and ultra cool was to me ultra embarrassing. In fact, I lived in a state of near continuous embarrassment, never measuring up to the ridiculous standards I had accepted without question, applied to a framework of expectations neither I nor anyone else could meet.--J C Amberchele

almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ”
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Re: poor man's v-tek [Re: jesuisravi]
    #22003388 - 07/27/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So, I am into the 8th day of operation Vtek. I have a few pics of the two quart Ziplock jars. They are loaded with colonized grass seed. I am keeping these jars on a window ledge with their lids completely unscrewed and ajar. I fan them a couple of times a day and mist once a day also. So far, the pins are nothing more than a twinkle in the water droplets clinging to the sides of the jar walls.

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Most of my beliefs I acquired from my father and from John Wayne, and anything that wasn't ultra tough and ultra cool was to me ultra embarrassing. In fact, I lived in a state of near continuous embarrassment, never measuring up to the ridiculous standards I had accepted without question, applied to a framework of expectations neither I nor anyone else could meet.--J C Amberchele

almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ”
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Re: poor man's v-tek [Re: jesuisravi]
    #22003431 - 07/27/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Your lids are too loose.  They don't need to be ajar!  Loosened somewhere between one to two inches should be fine.  They shouldn't require misting, much if at all.


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Re: poor man's v-tek [Re: Violet]
    #22004076 - 07/27/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Your lids are too loose.  They don't need to be ajar!  Loosened somewhere between one to two inches should be fine.  They shouldn't require misting, much if at all.




I thought they might get the idea to do their pin thing if I introduced them to more fresh air. As it is, they seem to be pretty fully colonized and maybe they are now consolidating, getting ready to make their move. I will readjust the lids. Thanks  :takingnotes:


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almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ”
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Re: poor man's v-tek [Re: jesuisravi]
    #22046497 - 08/05/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So, 7/19 I inoculated my jars and zip containers with Texas cube myceliated rye berries. It is now 8/5. 18 days by my count. Here is what is going on in a representative jar:

Plenty of colonization but still no pins. Does the mycelium look fluffy? I hope that is not a sign of some kind of alien competition.

Well, whatever, I propose to fight it out on this line, if it takes all summer.


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almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ”
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Re: poor man's v-tek [Re: jesuisravi] * 1
    #22046618 - 08/05/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You said rye berries? Those look like grass seed.
If you do happen to have a rye grow, it needs to be cased for quick & proper fruiting.

18 days you say.  But how many of those days were the colonization? You took that count from inoculation. If it took, say, 7 days to colonize, then 11 days from full colonization isn't too bad. Especially considering that the myc will take at least several days to consume the substrate and prepare for fruiting.

If you're not culturing for quick & prolific fruiters, you can never be sure about the pinning timeline.  Grass seed may have the unique trait of easily being consumed to a fruitable level of nutrition, but it still takes the time to do so.  Bulk substrate mixes such as BRF/verm have many points of low/no nutrition and can show pinning more quickly when fast cultures aren't specifically used.

In short, patience is a virtue!
I've seldom seen a healthy colonized cake not eventually fruit!


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Re: poor man's v-tek [Re: Violet]
    #22046856 - 08/05/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You said rye berries? Those look like grass seed.
If you do happen to have a rye grow, it needs to be cased for quick & proper fruiting.

18 days you say.  But how many of those days were the colonization? You took that count from inoculation. If it took, say, 7 days to colonize, then 11 days from full colonization isn't too bad. Especially considering that the myc will take at least several days to consume the substrate and prepare for fruiting.

If you're not culturing for quick & prolific fruiters, you can never be sure about the pinning timeline.  Grass seed may have the unique trait of easily being consumed to a fruitable level of nutrition, but it still takes the time to do so.  Bulk substrate mixes such as BRF/verm have many points of low/no nutrition and can show pinning more quickly when fast cultures aren't specifically used.

In short, patience is a virtue!
I've seldom seen a healthy colonized cake not eventually fruit!




The substrate in this zip container is rgs. I inoculated it with some rye berries that I had inoculated with a multispore syringe some weeks before.

I think the mycelium in this jar is healthy. It has a cottony look but I have seen that before in healthy jars. It may be that the variety of cube has something to do with it--Texas.

I agree: Patience is a virtue. In this line of endeavor you might call it the cardinal virtue--but in that case, cleanliness is the Pope.


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Most of my beliefs I acquired from my father and from John Wayne, and anything that wasn't ultra tough and ultra cool was to me ultra embarrassing. In fact, I lived in a state of near continuous embarrassment, never measuring up to the ridiculous standards I had accepted without question, applied to a framework of expectations neither I nor anyone else could meet.--J C Amberchele

almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ”
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Re: poor man's v-tek [Re: jesuisravi]
    #22060597 - 08/07/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So, this morning I look in my jars and in one of them what do I see? This:


Happy me! This the first mushroom I have grown in 6 years. May it be the first of many.

More to come.

There are a few more tiny guys coming in among the other jars. I don't know which to clone. I want one that is willing to sring up in the center.

This jar is sitting on the top of a SGFC but I have not placed any of my jars in a SGFC. They are all set out on window ledges with their lits on loose, as per the tek. The mycelium is white and cottony in most of them--a sign, if I am not mistaken, of high humidity.


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Most of my beliefs I acquired from my father and from John Wayne, and anything that wasn't ultra tough and ultra cool was to me ultra embarrassing. In fact, I lived in a state of near continuous embarrassment, never measuring up to the ridiculous standards I had accepted without question, applied to a framework of expectations neither I nor anyone else could meet.--J C Amberchele

almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ”
― David Foster Wallace, Infinite Jest


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Re: poor man's v-tek [Re: jesuisravi]
    #22293118 - 09/26/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It has been two months since I started this thread. I have about a week ago emptied my last v-tek jar. I have some pics but haven't uploaded them yet. While I have the chance I wanted to quickly describe my experience with this tek.

Every jar produced. The flushes were not huge  but they were respectable. After each flush I would soak the substrate for  a day and put it aside. In a week or so it would begin to sprout a few more mushrooms. I don't know how many times I repeated this process. The little flushes kept coming. Never did any of my jars contaminate, no matter how many times I soaked them and started the process again.

I will upload some pics when I get a chance. I will just say here that this is a tek I would recommend to anyone who wants something easy, non intensive, and non invasive in the sense that you don't need a lot of space for SGFC's.the jars are happy on any table top or window sill. Also, you get plenty of mushrooms considering the amount of substrate they are sprouting from.


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Most of my beliefs I acquired from my father and from John Wayne, and anything that wasn't ultra tough and ultra cool was to me ultra embarrassing. In fact, I lived in a state of near continuous embarrassment, never measuring up to the ridiculous standards I had accepted without question, applied to a framework of expectations neither I nor anyone else could meet.--J C Amberchele

almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ”
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Re: poor man's v-tek [Re: jesuisravi]
    #22328542 - 10/03/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds pretty similar to my experiences.
Thanks!


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Re: poor man's v-tek [Re: Violet]
    #22332606 - 10/04/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I like this tek.  Thank you.


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Re: poor man's v-tek [Re: Violet]
    #22332625 - 10/04/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you!


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almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ”
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