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Need help identifying an unusual specimen.
    #21967484 - 07/19/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I uploaded the photos to an imgur album, I'm still having trouble uploading pics here (I think my pics are too large):

Pictures of Unidentified Specimen

Habitat:
Evergreen forest in the mountains (elevation probably around 8,000 feet), in a drainage valley that was filled with fallen trees, mossy ground cover, ferns and berry bushes. Growing out from a cavity underneath a fallen tree, the cavity was full of softwood mulch with large amounts of mycelium growth. The mulch was essentially white with mycelial threads. 

Gills:
A light beigish-pinkish color, fleshy to off-white, some edges are darkened to a brown where dry, some spots of orange-brown.

Stem:
Dominantly yellow, with a faint green tint in the central portion of the stem. Some areas darkened to a faint purple or dark brown color. No visible ring. The stem is very fibrous, pretty dry, and it has a distinct 'wavy' texture and sheen.

Cap:
Fleshy and dense, a light yellow, with blushing spots that are more of a pink color.

Spore Print Color:
Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to get a spore print from these specimens, they've been sitting on the paper for a while and none have dropped. There is a very faint hint of orange-brown around the edges where the cap touched the paper, but I can't even tell if they're spores or not.

Bruising:
The stems on both started out with a noticeable green tint in the central portion, that was more of a greyish purple in some sections. Over time this darkened to a dominantly greyish-purple bruising. The small specimen has had the dark brownish-purple bruising since it was picked.

General location:
Near Helen Hunt Falls in Colorado Springs, CO.

Other information:
They have a strongly farinaceous aroma, almost overpowering, like a dusty old bag of powdered cubensis or something. I've never seen this species in this area before, and without a good spore print I can't get very far in my ID key...cause that's the first step, lol. Perhaps someone here will recognize the genus without needing one? Thanks again guys, this is a great service for mushroom hunters.


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"You decadent pig. Where the fuck do you get the nerve to go around telling those wops that I'm crazy? You worthless cocksucker. My Italian tour is already arranged for next spring & I'm going to do the whole goddamn trip wearing a bright red field marshal's uniform & accompanied by six speed-freak bodyguards bristling with Mace bombs & when I start talking about American writers & the name Tom Wolfe comes up, by god, you're going to wish you were born a fucking iguana!" - Hunter S. Thompson, 03/03/71 Letter to Tom Wolfe.


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Re: Need help identifying an unusual specimen. [Re: EnergyTurtle]
    #21967802 - 07/19/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'd call them an (possibly) active Gymnopilus species.  But please wait for another TI to confirm, because I don't have a ton of experience with gyms.

I'm sure some others will chime in.


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Re: Need help identifying an unusual specimen. [Re: amilibertine]
    #21967935 - 07/19/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

How about Armillaria?


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Re: Need help identifying an unusual specimen. [Re: o8u]
    #21967943 - 07/19/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

With an orange-brown print?


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Re: Need help identifying an unusual specimen. [Re: amilibertine]
    #21967962 - 07/19/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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amilibertine said:
With an orange-brown print?





It doesn't have an orange-brown spore print.


Could be Lyophyllum.


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Re: Need help identifying an unusual specimen. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #21968051 - 07/19/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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amilibertine said:
With an orange-brown print?





It doesn't have an orange-brown spore print.


Could be Lyophyllum.





I just realized I read that part too quickly.

On a side note, how is your avatar different constantly Alan?


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Re: Need help identifying an unusual specimen. [Re: amilibertine]
    #21968200 - 07/19/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I just realized I read that part too quickly.




I don't pay any attention to what people say the spore print color is, it is too often wrong to be a useful identifying feature.

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On a side note, how is your avatar different constantly Alan?




When I joined it linked to your avatar instead of uploading it like it does now.  I linked my avatar to a web server that I control, and have a perl script running in the background that switches the image every minute.  The source images are here:  http://plantobserver.org/nikon-micro/


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Re: Need help identifying an unusual specimen. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #21968236 - 07/19/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's really cool, the pics are awesome!


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Re: Need help identifying an unusual specimen. [Re: amilibertine]
    #21970383 - 07/20/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't pay any attention to what people say the spore print color is, it is too often wrong to be a useful identifying feature




I think the faint orange color that I observed was more of a stain on the paper left by the cap, rather than faint spore deposits. It could only be seen on the parts of the paper that were in direct contact with the edge of the cap, like some sort of pigment from the mushroom leeched onto the paper very slightly. In one of the closeup gill pics you can see some small spots of orange on the gills, this is essentially the same color that leeched onto the paper.

I was hopeful for Gymnopilus when I first picked them, but aren't Gyms known to leave heavy deposits of spores on their stems, the ground around them, etc? I also don't see an annular zone or evidence of rings on the specimens.

Lyophyllum and Armillaria are both solid candidates, but would the stipes on my specimen be considered unusual for the Lyophyllum genus? Armillaria is also a good candidate, I looked at some pics with very similar growth structure and bruising. They were growing out of a decent sized cavity full of what looked like white mycelium, in surprisingly massive amounts. Perhaps this was actually Armillaria's signature wood rot behavior? I think some of the mycelium/rot can be seen in the background of one of the pics. Much more than you would expect for only two medium-sized fruiting bodies.

Thanks for the responses guys, wish I had a spore print to provide, I know that they are essential to this process.


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