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pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted
#21967061 - 07/19/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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so i have 2g of dried p cyans, looks heavy to me so im just wondering if 2g lemon tekd is a good idea. the most ive tripped was 5g of cubes lemon tekd, still havent had any visuals so thats what im goin for.
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2g of Pan Cyans is a lot. That amount Lemon tek...Not something I would personally do.
I guess the best I can say is, wear a seatbelt.
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If you're after visuals and have done 5 grams dried cubes I say go for the two grams copelandia lemon teked. Guranteed to trip balls.
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Re: pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted [Re: BoomBoom]
#21967368 - 07/19/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Idk that seems like alot use the dosage calculator. There are plenty of posts that state that .75g to1.0g is pretty potent. I've eaten about 4g fresh and it felt like 2g of cubes dried This is not dosage information but just a heads up on the potency so I'd recomend caution.
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Re: pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted [Re: Lucis]
#21967451 - 07/19/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No don't listen to these people. Mushrooms vary in potency A LOT. 5g of some cubes are nothing, that doesn't mean 2g won't send you to outerspace.
If you're not getting visuals effect from mushrooms, i would discourage you from increasing your dosage. If you haven't tried and had weak trips 30+ times, don't assume its some sort of innate tolerance.
Mushrooms get pretty visual, and they will annihilate you if you fuck around with them.
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Re: pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted [Re: teamkiller]
#21968115 - 07/19/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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2g of pan cyans isn't really that high of a dose... they are no more than twice as potent as cubes, so it is like a 4 gram cube trip...
OP says he/she has experience with up to 5 grams of cubes, so this should be a walk in the park
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Re: pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21968147 - 07/19/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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did you not read what i wrote at all? he says he DIDN"T TRIP off 5g of cubes. That would likely indicate the cubes weren't potent. Don't encourage people to dose high when they don't know what they're getting into.
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Re: pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted [Re: teamkiller]
#21968194 - 07/19/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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All he said is he didn't get visuals.
I don't really either. Head space and all that is fucking out this world absolutely on par with every descriptor a person uses to explain their trip, minus anything visual, but it's extremely rare I "see" even one thing while tripping, and anytime I do, it's not a full on haluciation, it's just some level of distorted vision or pattern recognition (seeing faces in the sun while watching a documentary once that showed it looking more like lava than the sun, and some distorted image of the length of my fingers).
I have no visual imagination (at all, I close my eyes and all I see is blackness more or less, I can't conjure images in my head) so I think that's why I don't really see visuals. I don't see the colors everyone talks about or the walls breathing or any of that. For me psychedelics are pretty much entirely geared towards emotion, beliefs and thought processes.
I also have further proof this is not due to the potency of shrooms. more times than not that I've tripped with someone, it's been powdered in capsule. The powder is just a thoroughly mixed combination of a bunch of shrooms, meaning more or less we both got the same level of potency out of it. A weak shroom here a strong one there, doesn't really matter when it's all powdered up and mixed.
I know from past experiences some people just can't grasp the fact that another person can't see images when they close their eyes, but some people can't. I'm one of the unfortunates who can't.
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Re: pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted [Re: Shroomslip]
#21968277 - 07/20/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Have you tried laying down in the dark when you take them?
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Re: pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted [Re: Shroomslip]
#21968296 - 07/20/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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shroomslip I admit that could be a possibility, but i didn't see him say anything about lacking visuals across a variety of psychedelic experiences. All in all, shroom potency varies, I wouldn't council someone to take large doses if they're getting a lack of visuals.
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Re: pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted [Re: teamkiller]
#21968298 - 07/20/15 12:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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teamkiller said: shroomslip I admit that could be a possibility, but i didn't see him say anything about lacking visuals across a variety of psychedelic experiences. All in all, shroom potency varies, I wouldn't council someone to take large doses if they're getting a lack of visuals.
But 4g (even lemon tek) isn't a "large dose". My first shroom trip, and second trip ever, was 4 grams of cubensis shrooms in alcohol, which is even STRONGER than lemon tek
I was in no way overwhelmed, and it sounds like the op has some experience already, regardless if his shrooms were potent or not.
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Re: pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted [Re: teamkiller]
#21968308 - 07/20/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Have you tried laying down in the dark when you take them?
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teamkiller said: shroomslip I admit that could be a possibility, but i didn't see him say anything about lacking visuals across a variety of psychedelic experiences. All in all, shroom potency varies, I wouldn't council someone to take large doses if they're getting a lack of visuals.
Only time I've ever gotten any form of visuals was from high doses. Even then like I said, it's happened twice and it was very short lived. I'd spend maybe a minute or two getting visuals and then it would fade back to the usual trip I experience.
When I trip, emotional overload goes apeshit. I dunno how to explain it, but I feel everything. The emotion becomes so strong I feel like I'm literally going insane. I feel like at any second I'm going to explode just because my mind and body aren't built to withstand that kind of pressure and contain all this emotion. My beliefs change, in the trip anything and everything is possible. There really is no such thing as an absurd idea. If I start thinking there's an alien with an invisibility cloak monitoring my life signs, I believe it. If I start thinking (and this one actually happened) that everyone on the planet is meditating at that exact moment while staring into the sky and beaming their energy into space, I believe it. My thought processes also change, and I end up reflecting on a lot of shit. Things that made no sense before, suddenly are crystal clear and completely obvious.
That's what I get when I trip.
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Re: pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21968312 - 07/20/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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yes, and i'm arguing that the reason you weren't overwhelmed is because shroom vary wildly in potency. You should spend some time reading through experience reports, its not unusual for people used to eating eigths getting fucked sideways from 2g. 4g is a large dose.
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Re: pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted [Re: teamkiller]
#21968384 - 07/20/15 12:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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teamkiller said: yes, and i'm arguing that the reason you weren't overwhelmed is because shroom vary wildly in potency. You should spend some time reading through experience reports, its not unusual for people used to eating eigths getting fucked sideways from 2g. 4g is a large dose.
It can happen, but you can't always expect your shrooms to be extremely strong, that is fucking stupid. That will just lead to you being overwhelmed over and over and when you finally DO get potent shrooms, it won't even be that bad because you have so much experience dosing lower that the potent shrooms are just giving you the next level of experience...
Not to mention I bet a lot of people who do take 3.5 grams of "shrooms" could be taking different species such as pan cyan or psilocybe cyan which are twice as strong as normal cubensis mushrooms
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Re: pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted [Re: Gottaloveacid] 1
#21968394 - 07/20/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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no, people aren't taking eigths of pan cyans. i think you meant to say underwhelmed rather than overwhelmed, and I would argue its better to be underwhelmed than overwhelmed
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Re: pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21969427 - 07/20/15 06:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Before I knew any better i'd often take 3+ dry grams of psilocybe subaeruginosa in a tea, which I believe has a comparable potency to Pan Cyan (having never tried pan cyan tho personally). Back then I heard 3.5g is a standard dose and didn't think much of it, apart from the obvious intensity. Most I took was 4.5 dry soaked in a glass of spirits... interesting times
Unless these are OP's last shrooms there's no reason not to try a gram first and see how it treats you, work up to it. I really wish i'd spent more time with lower doses as I reckon I would have had more fun in the long run. Otherwise 2g with a dark room, bit of meditation and yeah expect a bit of everything.
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Re: pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted [Re: Shattered]
#21970089 - 07/20/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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further re-enforces variety of potency. 3grams of psilocybe subs is equal to like 7-8-9g of cubes... not standard for most people.
or sometimes psilocybe subs are just about as strong as good cubes... which would be normal dose...
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Re: pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted [Re: teamkiller]
#21970359 - 07/20/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well OP. Just know that you could end up having a hell of a trip if you dose 2 grams lemontek. Maybe try it without the lemon. Sometimes to get more you have to do more as far as visuals go and also setting among other things can really play into what you get out of the experience. My gf declares she can't get out there unless she eats a heroic dose meaning the most she's ever experienced when it comes to hallucinating is breathing and bending of objects. Myself on the other hand, I've seen things morph into other things swirling of my surroundings and just a complete mix of my senses. Good luck OP and I hope you end up with what you want out of the experience regardless of dose.
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Re: pan cyan 2g lemon tek advice wanted [Re: teamkiller]
#21970506 - 07/20/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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teamkiller said: further re-enforces variety of potency. 3grams of psilocybe subs is equal to like 7-8-9g of cubes... not standard for most people.
or sometimes psilocybe subs are just about as strong as good cubes... which would be normal dose...
That isn't a variation in potency... that is a difference between species, something I brought up in my last post, to which you said....
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teamkiller said: no, people aren't taking eigths of pan cyans.
What shattered was trying to say is that he got a different species of shrooms, which were much more potent than cubes, and still thought that an 1/8th of them is what people considered a "normal dose".
I am pretty sure that happens more often than the rare batches that are "double the potency"
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