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prismism


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Pereskiopsis bonsai
#21966909 - 07/19/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just because I can. This pereskiopsis has been a joy to prune and manipulate. I may graft multiple scions to each branch, or just keep pruning new growth for more branching/bushiness.
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Re: Pereskiopsis bonsai [Re: prismism] 1
#21968053 - 07/19/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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it's been a whyle that i think of making a pereskiopsis bonsai too! Nice branching, but i guess that it would be better if the branches were forming from a much lower point of the stem Grafting would be a really nice idea, since one would need to trim no more. It would be great to have some exposed roots. I have an exemplar that i grew hydroponycal that developped big woody roots, and woody lower stem. Too bad it's stem is thin, and not much pleasant for a bonsai.
Anyhow, it's something i may work on this summer.
Btw, i will try to make a Kalanchoe Draigremontiana bonsai too
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how do you keep your peres stalk green? Mine always seems to wood up at that size/
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Nice work, man! I envy all of you who can have this plant, it's so f*ing hard to find in Argentina, not 1 single vendor/nursery home has it, and it's literally impossible to get it inside the country.
At least my babies will grow on their own roots and (hopefully, being native cacti) get potent as hell, patience is the key.
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prismism


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Lemnaminor said: it's been a whyle that i think of making a pereskiopsis bonsai too! Nice branching, but i guess that it would be better if the branches were forming from a much lower point of the stem Grafting would be a really nice idea, since one would need to trim no more. It would be great to have some exposed roots. I have an exemplar that i grew hydroponycal that developped big woody roots, and woody lower stem. Too bad it's stem is thin, and not much pleasant for a bonsai.
Anyhow, it's something i may work on this summer.
Btw, i will try to make a Kalanchoe Draigremontiana bonsai too
Yeah, it wasn't the original goal to bonsai this plant. It just sort of happened that way. I would have surely made the initial cut lower on the 'trunk', and encouraged nebari. Thanks for the comments.
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kosmokratorshaman said: how do you keep your peres stalk green? Mine always seems to wood up at that size/
I don't do anything special. I don't even fertilize my peres. I think you can just chalk it up to us having slightly different phenotypes, with slightly different characteristics. For this plant, I would actually prefer one that becomes woody faster. It would make the plant older and more bonsai.
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Re: Pereskiopsis bonsai [Re: prismism] 2
#21977029 - 07/21/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's pretty neat. I would love to see a graft on each one of those branches. I might try to bonsai one myself at some point, seeing as how I am going to be practically overrun with peres plants before too long if they keep growing at the rate they are.
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Re: Pereskiopsis bonsai [Re: cowsRmeat]
#21979067 - 07/22/15 06:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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cowsRmeat said: That's pretty neat. I would love to see a graft on each one of those branches. I might try to bonsai one myself at some point, seeing as how I am going to be practically overrun with peres plants before too long if they keep growing at the rate they are.
Mine grow slower than fucking lophs. I do not know why. I have them planted in a bucket for root growth, they are outdoors in diffused sun. Hardening off from indoors still. They have not put on any height or thickness.
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kosmokratorshaman said: Mine grow slower than fucking lophs. I do not know why. I have them planted in a bucket for root growth, they are outdoors in diffused sun. Hardening off from indoors still. They have not put on any height or thickness.
Are you sure you're not mistreating them? If you treat them like cacti - fast draining substrate, letting it dry between waterings, feeding low N, etc. - they will do poorly. Give them a rich soil, plenty of water and nutes and they'll explode with growth, especially if you give them free root run as well. One thing that may be confusing them is if you had them under artificial lights for too many "day" hours. When put outside they will get the shorter day length as the onset of winter and the resting season.
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Re: Pereskiopsis bonsai [Re: LSoares]
#21979196 - 07/22/15 07:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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makes sense. they were indoors under 24 hour lighting to root. I water them daily. I could fert them more. Plenty of root space. Maybe they just need more time too
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Ah, that's it. Let them start growing again (they are pretty confused right now) and then try to push them. For now, just give them enough to keep them ticking (and to keep them from going into dormancy, Pereskiopsis can be really stubborn to come out of dormancy).
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Re: Pereskiopsis bonsai [Re: LSoares]
#21981257 - 07/22/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hmm. I guess I got lucky I guess. I had mine indoors under 24hour light as well when I got them and they had 24 hr for maybe the first month I had them and then I just put them outside without really hardening them. They are still sitting exactly where I put them originally. They get full sun till somewhere around lunchtime and then they have shade the rest of the day.
I did pot them in some nice rich soil like LSoares said. And they take plenty of water... I'm sure yours will get it in gear soon.
Hey LSoares, what do you do with yours over the winter? Do they need to come inside? Or can they tolerate a light frost? I'm guessing they need to come inside but this is my first year with them so I'm not sure...
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Re: Pereskiopsis bonsai [Re: cowsRmeat]
#21983019 - 07/23/15 02:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm lucky to live in a frost free area, so it's rather irrelevant. I can tell you that if you let them go deep into dormancy it will be hell to wake them up in the spring, mine get a drink every now and them just to keep them ticking. I'm sure others with more experience will know better, but I would guess that light frost will make them shed their leaves but probably won't kill them.
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Re: Pereskiopsis bonsai [Re: LSoares]
#21983378 - 07/23/15 07:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hopefully ill have a greenhouse up by winter. We have summer from march-november. Then suddenly one day its cold as hell.
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Well, I'll just bring em in for the winter and keep em going over the winter. That'll probably be for the best anyway, since I will probably want to be doing some grafts over the winter.
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Re: Pereskiopsis bonsai [Re: cowsRmeat]
#21986925 - 07/23/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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My new seeds were planted three days ago. I already have 30 sprouts from 200+ yay 
That's more stuff to graft.
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prismism


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Re: Pereskiopsis bonsai [Re: LSoares]
#22218602 - 09/10/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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These plants seem intent on growing tall rather than laterally, regardless of my influence. The lower branches don't pup nearly as eagerly as the newer branches at the apex.
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Re: Pereskiopsis bonsai [Re: prismism]
#22219644 - 09/11/15 12:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice bonsais. Prismism- what are those small guys you have grafted in the background of your first picture?
Also, have you tried a wiring technique, like they do with some of the more traditional bonsais? That might produce some really interesting shapes on a Peres...
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prismism


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I did those grafts a few months back onto some Myrtillocactus geometrizans. I don't know the species name of the scions, but they're very commonly found at hardware stores here in the US. The pup like crazy.

As for the pereskiopsis, I would wire/train that plant if it weren't for all the pesky glochids. I don't care to get in there with the wire, so I'm just letting it grow naturally. I wire my other bonsai plants regularly, however.
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Re: Pereskiopsis bonsai [Re: prismism]
#22241905 - 09/15/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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scions look like mammillaria gracilis
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