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Zombi3
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Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? 1
#21966141 - 07/19/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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These were planted on March 25th in a commercial cactus mix. Kept them under a 600w metal halide the whole time. Feeding them tons of fertilizer.
I have roughly 2500 cacti seedlings at this stage...
How soon till transplanting is required? I have a friend watching all my plants while I'm living at my dads for the next 3 months. I didn't have room to grow at my dads. I trust my buddy with everything except transplanting so I want to be the one to do it. Problem is I can't do it for at least 3 months.
Are my cacti too crowded or will they last a few more months until I can transplant them myself?
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: Zombi3]
#21966232 - 07/19/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome looking trichs, for that age, sure it's impressive. I guess that they won't die for an overcrowded containter, but yes, they could use a transplant.
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: Zombi3]
#21966240 - 07/19/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That will be quite a chore transplanting all of those little guys. Nice germination rate though. In my opinion they would gladly appreciate you giving them new root space, but they would survive a few more months that way for sure. I've had seedlings that size completely bare rooted without soil for longer than that and they still took well when finally potted up.
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Zombi3
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: Lemnaminor]
#21966274 - 07/19/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lemnaminor said: Awesome looking trichs, for that age, sure it's impressive.
Thanks man! I have a hella green thumb
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: prismism]
#21966298 - 07/19/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Transplant before winter so they have time to recover. I would separate them.
It may be hard to get them off but twist them a bit softly and they should get away from anothers from base. Roots gonna get broken so wait some time before you transplant just in case.
I find hard time to get tray full of trich seedlings separated but I just "turned" then to opposite direction carefully and shake and twist very smoothly, and they get off form each another.
You can basically transplant them anytime of year if you have grow room for them to let hem recover over winter.
Usually it's best to transplant them at spring, but I think you have time to do it and let them have dormancy. Anyway, some of them may be really rootbound together but I just can't explain in english how I managed to separate trichs from crowded pot. It needs just pull them away from another and moving around but very carefully, you feel they slowly get off from anothers.
Later on it will be harder to get them off from root bound than now. Once I ripped of root bound san pedros, 4inhes and grow years together.. I need so much strenght to get them off that many of them took a while to heal because I need to beak roots. They was just so root bound that I need lots of force to use and "violence" to get them off from each another. And they took a while to grow new roots when I did that.
It's easier now than later.
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: intelligentlife]
#21966344 - 07/19/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those things look mighty fine for only being four months old, good job. I think they'll be fine for a few months, don't sweat it.
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: BigHeart]
#21966623 - 07/19/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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my seedlings that are almost 2 months old are little tiny nubs..how the hell did you get those in 4 months?
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: kosmokratorshaman] 1
#21966659 - 07/19/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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How'd I do it?
Excellent seed source, 600w metal halide supplemented with 300w led, hella fertilizer, and two horticulture diplomas. To reiterate, hardcore green thumb lol
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: Zombi3]
#21966730 - 07/19/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: How'd I do it?
Excellent seed source, 600w metal halide supplemented with 300w led, hella fertilizer, and two horticulture diplomas. To reiterate, hardcore green thumb lol
Give everyone of 'em small cactus pot and they do long time. If you have room to do, I would grow em everyone on their own pots, they don't need much root space and do year or maybe 3years forwards in one pot. Use same growing medium and fertilizers as now the have. They do good in very small pots long time before you need to transplant them. Just water them year or two in 5-7cm pots. Then transplant slowly to bigger ones. If you have room to do that. Bigger the pots later on, bigger plants. You can go years with 5-7cm diam pots. Square ones even better.
I've used 2Liter pots for one feet or more size trichs relatively long time. Now testing 4Liter fabric pots for few. I have Limited amount of root space anyway and they seems to do long as that size in 2Liter container. Biggest ones for trichs I have now are only 6.5L. Most of them are 0.5-2L pots for trichs, but they are almost meter tall ones, maybe more. I've kept as well young plants in small containers few years before I've even transplanted them. Seems they don't mind much of it.
just buy or get somewhere as much pots of 5-7cm diam size.(maybe even 10x10cm quares) Then you don't have to transplant them for a long time, you'll gonna see when they need transplanting again as they grow on. Those small cactus pots are cheap. But I would not cultivate them later on more than one per pot so they seems to go many years good in small root space.
HPS lights are awesome from seeds to big ones but later on you gonna need only few plants and they consume a lots of space, if you want to grow them size they gonna grow. I've used HPS with two spectrums and it's good for several year old seedlings.
Btw, cannabis grow containers, the very small ones, they are good to use per plant, those sizes should very cheap square shape, they are very effective and those are sold as those sizes. Under lights you probably gonna need anyways space for all of those.
In 10 years, you cannot probably fit them all inside the grow room? 
I figured out with trichs, shit they need space later on more than smaller cactus. Even burned one from tip with HPS bulb. I Forgot the see them so often. Anyway, at one point I find out it's more easier to use greenhouse during grow season and reduce amout of columns. I like smaller ones or mutants, But I'm gonna see will it ever flower around here. I could not afford to space or more light bulbs to do trich grow room. Many other species didn't like there much.
Anyway, invest a bit to get square 7x7cm containers, or 10x10cm. They do several years. Plant one per container. no matter of shape, I would do that. I use now 5cm round pots for smaller ones and they do many years in one. But my plants are 6months in complete dormancy without light. I still use small pots and have seen they do long time alone in small root space before complete bad root bound. I use 10x10cm size for relatively big size plants and haven't transplanted many of them for long time.
Your seedlings may be good under that grow container for few weeks or months more but it's comes hard to transplant them, longer you keep them all in one. Use the size of pot you have room for them, but I suggest to plant everyone to their own pots. You probably don't need to worry about winter with grow lights.
Edited by intelligentlife (07/19/15 07:51 PM)
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kosmokratorshaman
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: intelligentlife]
#21969591 - 07/20/15 07:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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the small 4 inch terracotta pots are less than a buck, and each of those would look great in one.
I am relatively new to seedlings. I wish I could grow them like that in 4 months. This is only my 2nd and 3rd time (concurrently) growing seeds.
Ive got 150+ seedlings already sprouted and 200+ seeds germinating.
Advice on a fert for small seedlings would be appreciated
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: kosmokratorshaman] 1
#21969653 - 07/20/15 08:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im using organic sources single nutrient contentrates.
So I have 3 fertilizers: 1-0-0, 0-1-0, and 0-0-1.
The numbers represent percent nitrogen, percent phosphorous, percent potassium.
I feed twice twice a weak starting around week 3 with a 0-2-1 fertilizer. Once every 4-6 weeks I use a 1-1-1 fertilizer.
If you feed and water that heavy you need really ideal environment. I am growing in an old cannabis tent setup so I have temp, light, and air control. A shit load of light is required to grow plants fast and big.
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: Zombi3]
#21976954 - 07/21/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said:I have a hella green thumb 
I envy your thumbs, good sir.
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: Zombi3]
#21976982 - 07/21/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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2500, sounds like a commercial setup. Planning on being the shroomery's next sponsor? 
Good job, your cacti look great
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: nooneman]
#21977240 - 07/21/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I thought about selling them but I can't sell trichocerus in Canada. I can onl legally sell lophophora. Which I have a bunch of also. The trichocerus will likely be destined for extraction though a good number of them will make their way places as trades and gifts.
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: grownright]
#21977364 - 07/21/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can't sell trichs in Canada? What's the reasoning behind that?
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: cowsRmeat]
#21977563 - 07/21/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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They have mescaline in them lol Peyote is only legal because it's sanctioned for religious use here. I can sell trichocerus seeds but not plants or plant tissue. AFAIK.
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: Zombi3]
#21978903 - 07/22/15 04:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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We have similar law but not enforced.
Cacti grow so slow it's not worth of a shit to actual drug business.
If I get very technical, almost half of the species of cacti is illegal here. Law doesn't say anything about sepecies, only says: "plant containing mescaline and cultivated for consumption"
So it's a pretty much thing no one knows, but seems no police enfoce cactus plants. But I would not do business here with cacti because law is very hard to understand exactly what it means. I think as long as I don't do business with them and keep collection private, it's legal. Cannabis is as well very illegal, but seeds are legal and business can sell them legally as private persons. These "Private vendors" for cannabis seeds just should not say they are seed vendors to make it legal sale. Not any seeds here are illegal not specified cacti species.
But there's very complex law about everything. I just know about cannabis seeds, they don't have THC so they can be trade and sell as private persons, as business vendor it's illegal. I think it's same with these cacti.
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Re: Do my bridgesii seedlings need transplanting?? [Re: intelligentlife]
#21979025 - 07/22/15 05:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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luckily they are legal in the US
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