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spacechildo
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if your culture is a slow fruiter or aggressive colonizer do them 1/2" or even a tad more, but anywhere between 0,25 - 0,75 would be OK IMO. prob try to just do a thin layer, hard to measure anyway!
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taGyo
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taGyo said: If you have a CVG casing you need to learn your culture.
CVG is a great casing and will be colonized, like all casings. I've seen cultures destroy Peat Moss PHed 0 nute casings by just being aggressive. If you have a culture that likes to eat the CVG casing fruit it for a day or two, then case.
Otherwise case immediately. Even in Franks' Jiffy Mix casing tek he says to let it colonize to 30%.
All casings can/will get colonized, learn your culture to prevent this.
Great thanks so much for the responses everyone. Very last thing is if I were to use a CVG casing and fruit my sub a couple days before applying how thick should the casing be? Probably pretty thin right? .25 or .5 inches? And if I ruit for a couple days then apply casing will this damage any existing pins or knots?
Evenly spread, 1/4" to 1/2".
Honestly, I don't really measure. The key to a great pinset is an even thumb. I used to use rulers lol.
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taGyo
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spacechildo said: if your culture is a slow fruiter or aggressive colonizer do them 1/2" or even a tad more, but anywhere between 0,25 - 0,75 would be OK IMO. prob try to just do a thin layer, hard to measure anyway!

Everything will work for everything guys.
There is no better or best way to do this. Cubensis grows itself, 95% of your flush is in the genetics. It's just up to us to keep it happy.
K.I.S.S. And don't over-read. Your fruits will tell you 100x more then any board poster can.
Why do you think we always ask for pics?
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Psilosoulful said: Just sprinkle the casing mix over the surface evenly, do not try to pack it down, keep it light and airy. No need to break out the ruler! 
Haha awesome ok got it thanks again! And just so I undersand I guess the thought process behind fruiting immediately after applying a cvg casing is to give the substrate as much time to fruit as possible before the contams set in? Because when you are consolidating a bulk cvg sub you are supposed to tape up all the holes and prevent FAE until colonized to prevent contams. So I would imagine casing with cvg is just a race to fruit before contams eventually set in?
Thanks again and sorry for hogging the thread. It's just a wealth of knowledge around here.
Also, (and last question here promise b/c I'm off to bed) do u guys worry about patching the casing layer or do u just throw it down evenly and then let it go?
I really don't mind. As you said- there is a wealth of information and if I can fascilitate that in any way, including on my thread, I'm happy to do so.
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spacechildo
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RenegadeBlue said: So I would imagine casing with cvg is just a race to fruit before contams eventually set in?
mold spores wont germinate on coir, thats the beauty of it. they can however germinate on peat, that's why we lime peat to high ph so they no longer can.
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Psilosoulful

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RenegadeBlue said: And just so I undersand I guess the thought process behind fruiting immediately after applying a cvg casing is to give the substrate as much time to fruit as possible before the contams set in? Because when you are consolidating a bulk cvg sub you are supposed to tape up all the holes and prevent FAE until colonized to prevent contams. So I would imagine casing with cvg is just a race to fruit before contams eventually set in?
The point of applying the casing in the first place is to create a microclimate at the surface level to encourage strong pin formation. When letting the mycelium colonize the casing, it is mostly to give the mycelium a chance to get a hold on the casing layer before the tub is put into fruiting conditions. But, it's optional IMO. Find what works best for you. And if your bulk sub was 100% colonized before applying the casing, there is really no need to worry about contams.
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RenegadeBlue said: Also, (and last question here promise b/c I'm off to bed) do u guys worry about patching the casing layer or do u just throw it down evenly and then let it go?
Patching the casing layer, after you see mycelium starting to poke through the surface already, is done to ensure an even pin set, so your fruits can all mature at the same time.
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Final dry weight of first flush: 37 grams. Not bad, but I want to do better!
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Psilosoulful

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Not bad at all!!
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TravelAgency said: Final dry weight of first flush: 37 grams. Not bad, but I want to do better!
Nice, I've only done a few of these grows but I much prefer it to fruiting cakes. Way less work, and perlite is annoying.
Why did you make your bottom holes so small?
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TravelAgency
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Are they small? They are about an inch and a half/ three quarters
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I guess not. Looks like you followed TranscendingLife's tek. Did you have any fuzzy feet?
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TravelAgency
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Had a little bit on the first flush, took the top poly out of the holes and the last bunch of the flush lost the fuzziness completely
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taGyo
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I always nuke the environment if I start seeing fuzzy feet. Note that I have PESA that has fuzzy feet no matter what I do. Sometimes it's just genetic.
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rolear8
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Re: My first mono is a go [Re: taGyo]
#22048060 - 08/05/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I always nuke the environment if I start seeing fuzzy feet. Note that I have PESA that has fuzzy feet no matter what I do. Sometimes it's just genetic.
By nuke it you mean you drop lots of fresh air?
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Re: My first mono is a go [Re: rolear8]
#22048078 - 08/05/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yup.
For instance, if I have a lot of fuzzy feet in my monotub I'll take the top off for a few minutes. You can almost watch the fuzzy feet recede. Then I'll close the top and loosen my top polyfill.
If it looks dry after this I'll give it a mist. The key is only a few minutes though, do it for a half hour and you'll come back to blue shrooms.
A less disastrous method is just removing the top polyfill for a while. They'll still turn blue but at a slower rate if you forget to put it back in.
Here are some blue shrooms when my cat pulled out my top polyfill while I was at work:
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Re: My first mono is a go [Re: taGyo]
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Yeah I got some blueing so I replaced the polyfil
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rolear8
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Re: My first mono is a go [Re: taGyo]
#22048125 - 08/05/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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taGyo said: Yup.
For instance, if I have a lot of fuzzy feet in my monotub I'll take the top off for a few minutes. You can almost watch the fuzzy feet recede. Then I'll close the top and loosen my top polyfill.
If it looks dry after this I'll give it a mist. The key is only a few minutes though, do it for a half hour and you'll come back to blue shrooms.
A less disastrous method is just removing the top polyfill for a while. They'll still turn blue but at a slower rate if you forget to put it back in.
Here are some blue shrooms when my cat pulled out my top polyfill while I was at work:

So if they get blue you mean they are in any way bad?, i used to think they get blue due direct mist/water? I will try my first monotub im reading as much as i can 
thanks
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