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RenegadeBlue
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Psilosoulful

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Thinner subs are prone to losing moisture content more quickly and drying up, so a light casing will solve this issue. The tub I'm spawning now is about 2 inches, and I'll be casing it to ensure the moisture stays at the surface, to allow for good pin formation.
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RenegadeBlue
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spacechildo
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why dont you wanna case it? just throw some leftover cvg on top and fruit!
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Psilosoulful

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Make sure it's properly pasteurized too!
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spacechildo
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i prefer just hydrating my cvg for casing layers but if i dont have any at hand its just as easy to just use some leftover cvg from the bucket tek.
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RenegadeBlue
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spacechildo
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you dont have to do anything, just do the bucket tek and dont use all the cvg, keep it in the bucket and apply before fruiting.
the sub will eat it, but you'll get a nice pinset in before that. you could leave the tub a few days after 100% to get it more in a fruiting than veg. state.
peat colonizes slower and depending on the depth of it you can fruit right away or let colonize to 30%. dont do that with coir.
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JohnnyR1ngo
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Excellent work.. I've been contemplating pasty plates myself, but it seems agar is out of my reach right now... I think I'm going with MS to (3) Qt. Jars and g2g from there.. Hopefully, some aggression shows and I can get some good genetics to clone.. I'll still have some solution left so I can dabble in a lil agar work.. Maybe just do a couple transfers, looking for rizo and aggression ...
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RenegadeBlue
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Edited by RenegadeBlue (09/15/16 08:10 PM)
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spacechildo
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no, i mean fruit right when you apply it. dont let it colonize at all.
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Psilosoulful

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RenegadeBlue said: And what would I do to get it ready to case. Just add some water and then pasteurize if I didn't already?
That's what I would do, or prep more coir/verm when the tub is almost at 100%.
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RenegadeBlue said: Last question is if I use cvg as a casing what is to stop the colonized sub from just treating this as just more substrate and colonizing through it and taking forever to fruit?
Exactly, that's why cvg is not the ideal casing mix, although you will still get a nice pin set nonetheless.
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RenegadeBlue said: And when would I introduce fruiting conditions? Think I read in Frank's casing tek (using verm and peat) that he fruits at 20 - 30% colonization of the casing layer. But if u did this while casing a sub with another sub which is nutritious wouldn't u just be asking for tons of contams?
Peat moss/verm is not nearly as nutritious as coir/verm, that's why it is highly recommended to use as a casing. I would follow Frank's tek and fruit it at 30%.
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taGyo
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If you have a CVG casing you need to learn your culture.
CVG is a great casing and will be colonized, like all casings. I've seen cultures destroy Peat Moss PHed 0 nute casings by just being aggressive. If you have a culture that likes to eat the CVG casing fruit it for a day or two, then case.
Otherwise case immediately. Even in Franks' Jiffy Mix casing tek he says to let it colonize to 30%.
All casings can/will get colonized, learn your culture to prevent this.
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TravelAgency
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JohnnyR1ngo said: Excellent work.. I've been contemplating pasty plates myself, but it seems agar is out of my reach right now... I think I'm going with MS to (3) Qt. Jars and g2g from there.. Hopefully, some aggression shows and I can get some good genetics to clone.. I'll still have some solution left so I can dabble in a lil agar work.. Maybe just do a couple transfers, looking for rizo and aggression ...
I just started agar and it is way easier than I thought it would be. You should do it!
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taGyo
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It's just a big scary word,
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JohnnyR1ngo
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I will eventually... It all intrigues me.. Looks killer!! I'm still working on sterile technique... I lost my first attempt to the green monster.. I'm guessing there were a lot of factors to my demise...
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TravelAgency
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JohnnyR1ngo said: I will eventually... It all intrigues me.. Looks killer!! I'm still working on sterile technique... I lost my first attempt to the green monster.. I'm guessing there were a lot of factors to my demise...
Are you using a Still Air Box (SAB)? Also, inoculation technique is important. Where did your contams come from? Middle/bottom of the jar or up at the top?
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RenegadeBlue
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Re: My first mono is a go [Re: taGyo]
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Edited by RenegadeBlue (09/15/16 08:11 PM)
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JohnnyR1ngo
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I use SAB... I think my spawn was fine.. I made pt. jars (12) of lc with (2) different strains.. I made (6) well water and 6 with tap water.. As a lil experiment .. Well water around here performed slightly better, for those interested.. I let those go about 14 days in 80f .. Then knocked up 6 grain bags... And spawned to poo/verm using bucket tek, which I think is was killed the merry man...
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Psilosoulful

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Just sprinkle the casing mix over the surface evenly, do not try to pack it down, keep it light and airy. No need to break out the ruler!
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