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opendoors
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Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber?
#21962799 - 07/18/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey guys, so I was wondering if a plastic storage container that looks (almost) exactly like this
 would work as a suitable fruiting chamber (sorry if that is the incorrect term, I'm new at mushroom cultivation). I used to have a 10 gallon terrarium and I was going to use that, until I was informed that it broke years ago and I simply forgot. The container size is 12 quarts.
Also if that container wouldn't work, would a larger container such as this one work?
 Not sure the exact size of this one, it's just the standard size storage container though.
Edit: I would have no problem modifying the containers of course.
Edited by opendoors (07/18/15 11:09 PM)
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SteveRogers
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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: opendoors]
#21962814 - 07/18/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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What are you trying to make?
If it's a SGFC you need enough headroom for 5in of perlite + the height of the cakes+the height of potential mushrooms.
For a mono you are going to want enough room for a substrate depth at least a couple inches thick and some headroom for growth and FAE. You want to levels of holes.....Read The Teks Buddy!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19140341#19140341
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Buck513

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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: SteveRogers]
#21962839 - 07/18/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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There is a very high likelihood that them tubs will produce dealer grade mushrooms.
IF you are lucky, you might get O'Reilly grade. But I wouldn't get too hopeful on that
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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: Buck513]
#21962858 - 07/18/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shit did I just get rolled? haha
*edit
I don't care if it is a puppet. if somehow some one stumbles on it later, at least they will get something and a link to SpitBallJedi's stuff.....
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opendoors
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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: SteveRogers]
#21962899 - 07/18/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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0.0 what dude?
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opendoors
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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: SteveRogers]
#21962995 - 07/18/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am planning on making a SGFC. I'm probably either going to use a large container (like the one on the bottom) or a cooler. (because why go buy things when you can go over to your parents house and take things they are no longer using haha). Thanks for taking time to answer my lame question
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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: opendoors]
#21963000 - 07/18/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Buck513

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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: opendoors]
#21963003 - 07/18/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would advise not using a cooler.
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Machiavelliavore
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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: opendoors]
#21963154 - 07/19/15 12:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can only guess at the depth of that container, but it would only be well-suited to a spawned bulk substrate grow using the monotub shotgun hybrid design. Such a chamber might be a good choice if you want to spawn your cakes to some coir, and is a good way to save money, but throws all your first grow eggs in one basket.
Whole PF cakes can be fruited in an SGFC, a greenhouse/minigreenhouse, or invitro.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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opendoors
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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: SteveRogers]
#21963160 - 07/19/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah thanks for the link again, I have been looking through that for a while since you first linked me. Sorry you thought I was trolling. I will admit to not knowing what I'm talking about at all right now. I'm just trying to get to get as much info as I can, so I mean questions that are (apparently) stupid are kinda bound to be asked.
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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: opendoors]
#21963269 - 07/19/15 01:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
opendoors said: Yeah thanks for the link again, I have been looking through that for a while since you first linked me. Sorry you thought I was trolling. I will admit to not knowing what I'm talking about at all right now. I'm just trying to get to get as much info as I can, so I mean questions that are (apparently) stupid are kinda bound to be asked.
The most efficent use of your time will just be reading TEK after TEK. Make sure to only consider actually doing recent TEKs though.
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opendoors
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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: OPB]
#21963365 - 07/19/15 02:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, reading a bunch of teks is what I'm doing right now haha. Thanks for the advice man
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Buck513

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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#21963402 - 07/19/15 03:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Machiavelliavore said: I can only guess at the depth of that container, but it would only be well-suited to a spawned bulk substrate grow using the monotub shotgun hybrid design. Such a chamber might be a good choice if you want to spawn your cakes to some coir, and is a good way to save money, but throws all your first grow eggs in one basket.
Whole PF cakes can be fruited in an SGFC, a greenhouse/minigreenhouse, or invitro.
I would just use that 1st tray and do an open air grow...
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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: Buck513]
#21964213 - 07/19/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can grow in shallow containers, but its often not pretty as they get all bent over. Note the lighter to the left for scale.

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opendoors
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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: blackout]
#21965087 - 07/19/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is that a regular sized lighter? if not then the first container I was going to use is way bigger than that.
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blackout


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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: opendoors]
#21965738 - 07/19/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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opendoors said: Is that a regular sized lighter?
Yeah, I think they are only 3L tubs.
this one is 4.5L, thats a reguluar 10cc syringe

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Machiavelliavore
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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: blackout]
#21965786 - 07/19/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those are a standard shotgun minitub (msg) design blackout? Holes ontop?
My understanding is that the pressure gradient would be insufficient with such poor depth to make the standard monotub design function well. Likewise, shotgun mini designs seem to work better the smaller they are.
I think this dude should just shotgun his rubbermaid with 3-4" clearance, and put a coir substrate with cheese grated pf cakes in it.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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blackout


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Re: Rubbermaid storage container as a fruiting chamber? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#21965985 - 07/19/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Machiavelliavore said: Those are a standard shotgun minitub (msg) design blackout? Holes ontop?
There is only a single hole with a filter on those, so not shotgun and not mono. I don't know what term people would use. I fanned 2 or 3 times a day and misted you can see they going fuzzy with lack of fresh air.
They are not ideal by any means, I am just showing what happens in short containers, the shrooms just hit the lid and bend over. Some people seem very worried about having enough space, I don't know what they think will happen, some think the shrooms will rot as moisture gathers but I had no trouble. Some people went mad when I posted those pictures! saying to let them grow properly, some probably joking, some were seemingly not.
My tubs were intended to be a 1 container grow, I wanted to make it as simple a possible for friends to grow. In grows after those pictured I would fractionally sterilize grain in the tubs, inject lots of LC, shake, and colonise the entire tub in days without ever shaking it again. I then cased the grain directly without ever taking it out of the tub. Not ideal but it works.
I haven't seen enough short tubs used to know what to recommend.
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