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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: koods]
    #21964739 - 07/19/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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How is collecting data Orwellian?  This article is Orwellian.




Seriously.  When a white president collects data it's called a census. When a black one does it it's called a secret race database.



We already had a census.  It is mandated for every ten years.  Disparate impact is a racist doctrine that demands quotas which are by definition racist.


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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: Asante] * 1
    #21964748 - 07/19/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't think anybody here thinks white people are the most persecuted.




Several people stated this.

And dont patronize me :laugh:



Pointing out that you know nothing about America is not patronizing


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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21964793 - 07/19/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Saying my word carries not much weight because I have a psychotic disorder is patronizing.


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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: Asante]
    #21964818 - 07/19/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think that is quite the meaning of the word.  Disparately grading a test based on the race of the taker is patronizing.  Discounting what you think because you are psychotic is not patronizing.  As you know I have also discounted everything you think about America even before you copped to being psychotic simply based on your utter and pervasive ignorance of it.  Your psychosis may be a partial explanation for why that ignorance persists and why you continue to opine upon that of which you know nothing.  Either that or you are a well crafted troll.


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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21964902 - 07/19/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:cookiemonster: :facepalm:


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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21966349 - 07/19/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't think that is quite the meaning of the word.  Disparately grading a test based on the race of the taker is patronizing.  Discounting what you think because you are psychotic is not patronizing.  As you know I have also discounted everything you think about America even before you copped to being psychotic simply based on your utter and pervasive ignorance of it.  Your psychosis may be a partial explanation for why that ignorance persists and why you continue to opine upon that of which you know nothing.  Either that or you are a well crafted troll.




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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: Citizen X]
    #21966383 - 07/19/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You're welcome

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/07/19/obamas-awesome-new-race-database-even-more-awesome-than-you-imagined/


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We recently discussed a story that wasn’t particularly popular here (to be charitable) which dealt with a new White House plan to implement enforced neighborhood diversity in American towns and cities through the power and influence of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). The rest of the nation wasn’t exactly pleased with the idea either, but it did raise some interesting questions. One of the biggest among those was the puzzle of exactly how the federal government plans to figure out precisely how many people in each racial pigeonhole are living where and how they are interacting. Is that sort of data even available to be used in making such determinations, assuming you wanted to do it?

The short answer seems to be “no.” The longer – and apparently more accurate – answer is, “not yet.” But never fear, citizens! As Paul Sperry reports for the New York Post, the required data collection is on the way and it’s going to be mind blowing.

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I assumed at first that they would just be tapping into the census data, but that’s severely limited for this sort of preferential racial tracking. People tend to move around, so the big, decennial numbers tend to go stale after a while. Also, for the majority of respondents, they don’t tell you much more than a zip code to match up with the racial data – far less than you’d need for some of Obama’s ambitious plans. Sperry’s report breaks down some of the digital treasure troves which are being mined to fill in all of those gaps and it’s sounding more and more like The Central Scrutinizer from Joe’s Garage by Frank Zappa.

First there’s the Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing database which was announced in our previous coverage linked above. It breaks down every neighborhood by four racial groups and identifies the ones which are in need of correction. (If the ZIP code in question has less than 50% “non-white population” is fails to escape the category of being “segregated.”) But wait… there’s more! The Federal Housing Finance Agency will be tapped to provide individual credit scores (along with “all credit lines” of all types) and employment history. Loan approvals will be tested against racial data along with those other fiscal criteria to root out racism in that sector even if none is being alleged.

But don’t stop there. The new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (brainchild of Liz Warren) will be providing everyone’s credit card accounts sorted by race. (Side note: I don’t recall telling them my race when I got my last credit card. Odd.) Oh, and the banks will all need to tell Big Brother the race of everyone they hire as well as everyone who applies for a job. That should help them keep an eye on Wall Street, eh? Oh, and wait until you see what the Education Department is up to.

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This is some groundbreaking stuff, folks. Has there ever been such an assemblage of personal, private data by the federal government? To what purpose will all of this be put? And apparently it can all be done by the stroke of a pen in the White House without any congressional action or involvement. I suppose the final question here is… is there any way to stop it?




More race pimping from racists who have gotten rich pimping their race whine


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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21966559 - 07/19/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
You're welcome

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/07/19/obamas-awesome-new-race-database-even-more-awesome-than-you-imagined/


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We recently discussed a story that wasn’t particularly popular here (to be charitable) which dealt with a new White House plan to implement enforced neighborhood diversity in American towns and cities through the power and influence of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). The rest of the nation wasn’t exactly pleased with the idea either, but it did raise some interesting questions. One of the biggest among those was the puzzle of exactly how the federal government plans to figure out precisely how many people in each racial pigeonhole are living where and how they are interacting. Is that sort of data even available to be used in making such determinations, assuming you wanted to do it?

The short answer seems to be “no.” The longer – and apparently more accurate – answer is, “not yet.” But never fear, citizens! As Paul Sperry reports for the New York Post, the required data collection is on the way and it’s going to be mind blowing.

.................

I assumed at first that they would just be tapping into the census data, but that’s severely limited for this sort of preferential racial tracking. People tend to move around, so the big, decennial numbers tend to go stale after a while. Also, for the majority of respondents, they don’t tell you much more than a zip code to match up with the racial data – far less than you’d need for some of Obama’s ambitious plans. Sperry’s report breaks down some of the digital treasure troves which are being mined to fill in all of those gaps and it’s sounding more and more like The Central Scrutinizer from Joe’s Garage by Frank Zappa.

First there’s the Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing database which was announced in our previous coverage linked above. It breaks down every neighborhood by four racial groups and identifies the ones which are in need of correction. (If the ZIP code in question has less than 50% “non-white population” is fails to escape the category of being “segregated.”) But wait… there’s more! The Federal Housing Finance Agency will be tapped to provide individual credit scores (along with “all credit lines” of all types) and employment history. Loan approvals will be tested against racial data along with those other fiscal criteria to root out racism in that sector even if none is being alleged.

But don’t stop there. The new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (brainchild of Liz Warren) will be providing everyone’s credit card accounts sorted by race. (Side note: I don’t recall telling them my race when I got my last credit card. Odd.) Oh, and the banks will all need to tell Big Brother the race of everyone they hire as well as everyone who applies for a job. That should help them keep an eye on Wall Street, eh? Oh, and wait until you see what the Education Department is up to.

................

This is some groundbreaking stuff, folks. Has there ever been such an assemblage of personal, private data by the federal government? To what purpose will all of this be put? And apparently it can all be done by the stroke of a pen in the White House without any congressional action or involvement. I suppose the final question here is… is there any way to stop it?




More race pimping from racists who have gotten rich pimping their race whine




I know. It seems that is all that newspaper does.


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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: koods]
    #21966581 - 07/19/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Um the race pimp is Obama


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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21966592 - 07/19/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sure. Not the right wing media which injects race into everything. Not the conservative posters on this site who inject race into everything.


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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: koods]
    #21966615 - 07/19/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There is no right wing media forcing Obama to be a race baiting pimp.  They didn't force him to do anything and yet he does all over the place.  Remember the Gates fiasco?  The Beer Summit?  Remember him opening his idiot piehole in re Trayvon the Punk?  The man is a race huckster just like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.  There is not a sliver of space between them


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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: Asante]
    #21966783 - 07/19/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
How is collecting data Orwellian?  This article is Orwellian.





They are scared to death that the actual situation regarding race in the US is uncovered, that their bubble of "whites are the most persecuted group" is burst and that their white privilege gets quantified to an awkward extent.

They're so comfortable directly denying race yet indirectly blaming blacks, now that whole bullshit is going to cvome tumbling down.

Scares em to death. Blacks on the whole don't feel threatened by this information gathering.




"They are scared to death that the actual situation regarding race is uncovered"

:lol:  I don't think so, if the real truth about race was ever allowed to enter the MSM it wouldn't workout so well for minorities.

"Blacks on the whole don't feel threatened by this information gathering"

Of course they don't, we you blame others for a poor performance it really doesn't matter.


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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: qman]
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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21966818 - 07/19/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: Asante] * 1
    #21970830 - 07/20/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Asante said:
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moonrockmushy said:
How is collecting data Orwellian?  This article is Orwellian.





They are scared to death that the actual situation regarding race in the US is uncovered, that their bubble of "whites are the most persecuted group" is burst and that their white privilege gets quantified to an awkward extent.

They're so comfortable directly denying race yet indirectly blaming blacks, now that whole bullshit is going to cvome tumbling down.

Scares em to death. Blacks on the whole don't feel threatened by this information gathering.




I think some might, but that really goes to show that our country is not as divided along race lines as it once was, and as some people wish it would be again.  I think many people don't view him as our black president, but rather out president who happens to have this quality of blackness that we have realized doesn't matter.  That is why he was able to be elected, because most people don't care about that anymore, not because we need a black president for fairness.  Of course the internet does not reflect this, and there are still plenty of vestiges of institutional racism, but things are getting better.

The whole argument "you can't speak for blacks" stems out of racism in my mind.  One can make statements about black people without it necessarily being racism, as long as the statements are qualified properly and take into account that racism is very real and still quite serious.  What really bothers me is when people want to talk shit about black people, then turn around and deny the existence of racism, or deny that black people have suffered and continue to suffer because of racism.

If you (not asante speaking generally here) think the only way to end racism is for black people to stop feeling bad for themselves, and pull themselves up by their bootstraps I wouldn't really hate you, but I think that is totally unrealistic and if you're that against having a diverse supportive community I don't think people should allow you to benefit from that community.  If you don't see the value in contributions of those who put the good of mankind above selfish desires, I think you're the primitive who needs to be oppressed.  Competition between two humans as equals should be allowed, but on a community level petty tribalism will be the end of us all if we let it control us.


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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21970878 - 07/20/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
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Asante said:
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moonrockmushy said:
How is collecting data Orwellian?  This article is Orwellian.





They are scared to death that the actual situation regarding race in the US is uncovered, that their bubble of "whites are the most persecuted group" is burst and that their white privilege gets quantified to an awkward extent.

They're so comfortable directly denying race yet indirectly blaming blacks, now that whole bullshit is going to cvome tumbling down.

Scares em to death. Blacks on the whole don't feel threatened by this information gathering.




I think some might, but that really goes to show that our country is not as divided along race lines as it once was, and as some people wish it would be again.  I think many people don't view him as our black president, but rather out president who happens to have this quality of blackness that we have realized doesn't matter.  That is why he was able to be elected, because most people don't care about that anymore, not because we need a black president for fairness.  Of course the internet does not reflect this, and there are still plenty of vestiges of institutional racism, but things are getting better.

The whole argument "you can't speak for blacks" stems out of racism in my mind.  One can make statements about black people without it necessarily being racism, as long as the statements are qualified properly and take into account that racism is very real and still quite serious.  What really bothers me is when people want to talk shit about black people, then turn around and deny the existence of racism, or deny that black people have suffered and continue to suffer because of racism.

If you (not asante speaking generally here) think the only way to end racism is for black people to stop feeling bad for themselves, and pull themselves up by their bootstraps I wouldn't really hate you, but I think that is totally unrealistic and if you're that against having a diverse supportive community I don't think people should allow you to benefit from that community.  If you don't see the value in contributions of those who put the good of mankind above selfish desires, I think you're the primitive who needs to be oppressed.  Competition between two humans as equals should be allowed, but on a community level petty tribalism will be the end of us all if we let it control us.



My complaint about Asante is not that he thinks he can speak for American Negroes.  It is that he thinks he has even the slightest notion, in spite of repeated effs, of what the USA is about or like.  He knows nothing.  The Negro has received and continues to receive preferential treatment and the doctrine of disparate impact is racist and unconstitutional.  Their failures are their own.  They have more than a critical mass needed to make their own way even if whitey ignores them.  Make your own company.  Hire your own people.  BET is a racist organization.  FUBU is a racist organization.  Whitey isn't making them have babies without families


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Re: Obama's Secret Race Database [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21970940 - 07/20/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
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Asante said:
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moonrockmushy said:
How is collecting data Orwellian?  This article is Orwellian.





They are scared to death that the actual situation regarding race in the US is uncovered, that their bubble of "whites are the most persecuted group" is burst and that their white privilege gets quantified to an awkward extent.

They're so comfortable directly denying race yet indirectly blaming blacks, now that whole bullshit is going to cvome tumbling down.

Scares em to death. Blacks on the whole don't feel threatened by this information gathering.




I think some might, but that really goes to show that our country is not as divided along race lines as it once was, and as some people wish it would be again.  I think many people don't view him as our black president, but rather out president who happens to have this quality of blackness that we have realized doesn't matter.  That is why he was able to be elected, because most people don't care about that anymore, not because we need a black president for fairness.  Of course the internet does not reflect this, and there are still plenty of vestiges of institutional racism, but things are getting better.

The whole argument "you can't speak for blacks" stems out of racism in my mind.  One can make statements about black people without it necessarily being racism, as long as the statements are qualified properly and take into account that racism is very real and still quite serious.  What really bothers me is when people want to talk shit about black people, then turn around and deny the existence of racism, or deny that black people have suffered and continue to suffer because of racism.

If you (not asante speaking generally here) think the only way to end racism is for black people to stop feeling bad for themselves, and pull themselves up by their bootstraps I wouldn't really hate you, but I think that is totally unrealistic and if you're that against having a diverse supportive community I don't think people should allow you to benefit from that community.  If you don't see the value in contributions of those who put the good of mankind above selfish desires, I think you're the primitive who needs to be oppressed.  Competition between two humans as equals should be allowed, but on a community level petty tribalism will be the end of us all if we let it control us.




"if you're that against having a diverse supportive community I don't think people should allow you to benefit"

Very nice, if I don't embrace cultural diversity to the level you want me to, I should suffer as a result. 

"Competition between two humans as equals should be allowed"

So blacks aren't equal in your mind because you're a big supporter of preferential treatment (AA), the truth finally comes out.


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