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are conservatives dying off
    #21961344 - 07/18/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

every year that passes i wonder if they're still out there

and some how they're population is thriving even tho 90 percent of them are geriatrics


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: moehd]
    #21961359 - 07/18/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They are a very loud minority. I like to think they are. I think Donald Trump is doing a good job of exposing the true ugliness of the party.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: nicechrisman]
    #21961379 - 07/18/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

yea hes showing how well they respond to racist statements


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: nicechrisman] * 7
    #21961382 - 07/18/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i think conservatism by its very nature requires a certain "dying off" period as society changes and people learn to accept those changes. but i don't think conservatism as a general approach to societal issues will ever go away, nor should it; it's good to have those who value tradition, even if they are sometimes wrong.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: millzy] * 4
    #21961393 - 07/18/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Fiscal Conservatives are abundant and actually the majority. On the contrary the majority of people are socially Liberal. So it's really a stretch to say Conservatives are dying off. Some old Conservative social ideas are dying out.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Magicman69]
    #21961404 - 07/18/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Fiscal Conservatives are abundant and actually the majority. On the contrary the majority of people are socially Liberal.




i'm not trying to contest your points, but just out of curiosity, how would you define a fiscal conservative?


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: millzy]
    #21961413 - 07/18/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Basically it means avoiding deficit by reducing government spending and not spending more than you make. Lowering our national debt. Small government.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Magicman69]
    #21961428 - 07/18/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

but imo i see conservatives as dead weight in the system

they hold on too religion and there believe systems so tightly that that wanna block other from breaking free

i think if this country was all liberal the war on drugs would be ended immediately


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: moehd]
    #21961452 - 07/18/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

conservatives shhservatives

it's all a bunch of baloney

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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: moehd] * 3
    #21961455 - 07/18/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

A Conservative is a fed up Liberal.

After 30 years of bullshit, if a Liberal didn't turn into a Conservative, he's probably high or crazy.

Being a Liberal is for young people that still have dreams, hope and ambition. It's a young man's game.

Conservativism is for older people that have become realist, mature and experienced. It comes through time.

Both exist to keep the other from going overboard. The Conservatives holds the Liberals to the ground to prevent them from flying off to Lalaland and while doing so, it distracts the Conservatives enough to prevent them from burning down government with everyone inside it. It's a symbiotic relatioship


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Patlal]
    #21961473 - 07/18/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

People turn conservative when they wise up, mature and gain life experience.  Liberals are typically young, shallow, immature and inexperienced.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Shins]
    #21961489 - 07/18/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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People turn conservative when they wise up, mature and gain life experience.  Liberals are typically young, shallow, immature and inexperienced.



Funny my grandfather was extremely successful and old and was a hardcore liberal. Also my mother is very successful and getting old and is still very liberal.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Shins]
    #21961496 - 07/18/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

that's funny. so anyone whom you see as any of those things will automatically be presumed to be a liberal, based on no real evidence. no?


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Shins]
    #21961501 - 07/18/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

thats why conservatives are always shit of social issues

like for instance they are anti obama care because they'er too brainwashed to see that the republican politicians they follow get bribed to go against it.

why would anyone be against diverting our tax money from war to helping out our fellow man


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: moehd]
    #21961504 - 07/18/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Because freedom


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Shins] * 4
    #21961507 - 07/18/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Why are people still identifying themselves with ANY political party?

"People turn conservative when they wise up, mature and gain life experience.  Liberals are typically young, shallow, immature and inexperienced."

Are you kidding me? Do you know how many young "conservatives" there are who don't know shit?

Mature and wising up? Comical. The average American adult watches more TV and spends more time "socializing" way too much on social media and has no idea what the fuck is going on around them.

And that's truth, because I said so. Just like you did.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21961524 - 07/18/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

A good government requires both Liberals and Conservatives.

Just like nature. When a forrest has lot of wolves, they eat more deer. When there aren't enough deer left for the entire pack, wolves start starving to death and suddenly there are less predators and the deer population shoots up again which means more wolves can be born, etc. Cycle of life.

Protons need electrons and electrons need protons. They are complete opposites, but they need each other to become greater than themselves in order to build molecules.

One without the other become unstable, reactive, then radio active and then everything blows up in your face and you're left wondering what went wrong...


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #21961531 - 07/18/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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A good government requires both Liberals and Conservatives.

Just like nature. When a forrest has lot of wolves, they eat more deer. When there aren't enough deer left for the entire pack, wolves start starving to death and suddenly there are less predators and the deer population shoots up again which means more wolves can be born, etc. Cycle of life.

Protons need electrons and electrons need protons. They are complete opposites, but they need each other to become greater than themselves in order to build molecules.

One without the other become unstable, reactive, then radio active and then everything blows up in your face and you're left wondering what went wrong...




or we could evolve and be like Switzerland


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Patlal]
    #21961537 - 07/18/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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A good government requires both Liberals and Conservatives.

Just like nature. When a forrest has lot of wolves, they eat more deer. When there aren't enough deer left for the entire pack, wolves start starving to death and suddenly there are less predators and the deer population shoots up again which means more wolves can be born, etc. Cycle of life.

Protons need electrons and electrons need protons. They are complete opposites, but they need each other to become greater than themselves in order to build molecules.

One without the other become unstable, reactive, then radio active and then everything blows up in your face and you're left wondering what went wrong...




it's all bullshit

just people trying to manipulate the masses, that;s all it is really

politics is code name name for = control

poli, stands for police = control by force


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: moehd]
    #21961543 - 07/18/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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A good government requires both Liberals and Conservatives.

Just like nature. When a forrest has lot of wolves, they eat more deer. When there aren't enough deer left for the entire pack, wolves start starving to death and suddenly there are less predators and the deer population shoots up again which means more wolves can be born, etc. Cycle of life.

Protons need electrons and electrons need protons. They are complete opposites, but they need each other to become greater than themselves in order to build molecules.

One without the other become unstable, reactive, then radio active and then everything blows up in your face and you're left wondering what went wrong...




or we could evolve and be like Switzerland




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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: moehd]
    #21961549 - 07/18/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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A good government requires both Liberals and Conservatives.

Just like nature. When a forrest has lot of wolves, they eat more deer. When there aren't enough deer left for the entire pack, wolves start starving to death and suddenly there are less predators and the deer population shoots up again which means more wolves can be born, etc. Cycle of life.

Protons need electrons and electrons need protons. They are complete opposites, but they need each other to become greater than themselves in order to build molecules.

One without the other become unstable, reactive, then radio active and then everything blows up in your face and you're left wondering what went wrong...




or we could evolve and be like Switzerland




Their country is the size of my car, they have a small population and they are surrounded by rich countries. North America doesn't have that luxury. Too big, too populated, we have 3 oceans and Mexico...

What a country becomes depends on it's surroundings.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Patlal]
    #21961556 - 07/18/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That doesn't mean we couldn't try instituting some similar policies. We may lack the resources per individual for it to succeed on the level it has for them, but that doesn't mean we should be afraid to move in that direction.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Patlal]
    #21961560 - 07/18/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Patlal said:
A good government requires both Liberals and Conservatives.

Just like nature. When a forrest has lot of wolves, they eat more deer. When there aren't enough deer left for the entire pack, wolves start starving to death and suddenly there are less predators and the deer population shoots up again which means more wolves can be born, etc. Cycle of life.

Protons need electrons and electrons need protons. They are complete opposites, but they need each other to become greater than themselves in order to build molecules.

One without the other become unstable, reactive, then radio active and then everything blows up in your face and you're left wondering what went wrong...




or we could evolve and be like Switzerland




Their country is the size of my car, they have a small population and they are surrounded by rich countries. North America doesn't have that luxury. Too big, too populated, we have 3 oceans and Mexico...

What a country becomes depends on it's surroundings.



oceans just mean safety and you forgot about canada  but any way
it doesnt mean that we cant strive to copy they're model
(we can still have guns:awesome:)


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: moehd]
    #21961608 - 07/18/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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moehd said:
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Patlal said:
Quote:

moehd said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
A good government requires both Liberals and Conservatives.

Just like nature. When a forrest has lot of wolves, they eat more deer. When there aren't enough deer left for the entire pack, wolves start starving to death and suddenly there are less predators and the deer population shoots up again which means more wolves can be born, etc. Cycle of life.

Protons need electrons and electrons need protons. They are complete opposites, but they need each other to become greater than themselves in order to build molecules.

One without the other become unstable, reactive, then radio active and then everything blows up in your face and you're left wondering what went wrong...




or we could evolve and be like Switzerland




Their country is the size of my car, they have a small population and they are surrounded by rich countries. North America doesn't have that luxury. Too big, too populated, we have 3 oceans and Mexico...

What a country becomes depends on it's surroundings.



oceans just mean safety and you forgot about canada  but any way
it doesnt mean that we cant strive to copy they're model
(we can still have guns:awesome:)




North America. 3 oceans and Mexico.

That includes canada.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Magicman69]
    #21961816 - 07/18/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Fiscal Conservatives are abundant and actually the majority. On the contrary the majority of people are socially Liberal. So it's really a stretch to say Conservatives are dying off. Some old Conservative social ideas are dying out.




Idk.. based on your definition I would definitely say they aren't the majority. Considering (of course this is only a generalization) a lot of the minorities, i.e. the poor and middle class, want big government. And thats a large portion of the U.S.

Socially i'm in the middle i think, but fiscally I'm definitely a conservative


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Bambi] * 1
    #21962196 - 07/18/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Gonna stay out of this one, though I might come back and edit in some insight once I sober up a bit :lol:


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: moehd] * 1
    #21962221 - 07/18/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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but imo i see conservatives as dead weight in the system

they hold on too religion and there believe systems so tightly that that wanna block other from breaking free

i think if this country was all liberal the war on drugs would be ended immediately



I am as fiscally conservative as there is.  I'm an atheist and support abortion rights and women's rights and gay rights and trans rights.  I do not support bum rights and I do not support immigrant invader rights.  The dead weight is the assholes who don't fucking work


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21962305 - 07/18/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Social conservatism is definitely dying off and fuckin good riddance. Conservatives in general are fuckin evil and why people vote for them, I don't know. :shrug: I'm not saying that all the liberals are good but I've only seen 1 or 2 good republican politicians. Seriously, the republicans fucked Wisconsin


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21962313 - 07/18/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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but imo i see conservatives as dead weight in the system

they hold on too religion and there believe systems so tightly that that wanna block other from breaking free

i think if this country was all liberal the war on drugs would be ended immediately



I am as fiscally conservative as there is.  I'm an atheist and support abortion rights and women's rights and gay rights and trans rights.  I do not support bum rights and I do not support immigrant invader rights.  The dead weight is the assholes who don't fucking work




fair point fuck illegal immigrants but your party doesnt support any of that stuff and they're bought out shill(more so than democrats)


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: King Klick]
    #21962316 - 07/18/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Republicans are not conservatives and they haven't fucked Wisconsin,  Even FDR warned against public sector unions and they are fucking the taxpayer to death everywhere the exist in force.  Scott Walker is a hero.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: moehd]
    #21962430 - 07/18/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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thats why conservatives are always shit of social issues

like for instance they are anti obama care because they'er too brainwashed to see that the republican politicians they follow get bribed to go against it.

why would anyone be against diverting our tax money from war to helping out our fellow man




"anti obama care because they're too brainwashed to see the republican politicians they follow get bribed to go against it"

:huxleyfacepalm:  You're so beyond clueless, the D's and R's got paid off by the SAME corporate interests, it was theater and nothing more.  Who do you think gave the D's money in this legislation?


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: King Klick]
    #21962441 - 07/18/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Social conservatism is definitely dying off and fuckin good riddance. Conservatives in general are fuckin evil and why people vote for them, I don't know. :shrug: I'm not saying that all the liberals are good but I've only seen 1 or 2 good republican politicians. Seriously, the republicans fucked Wisconsin




There are no conservatives to vote for, so I don't know what the fuck you're even talking about.

Do you know who fucked Wisconsin?  The people who sent industry out of the US, go find them. :lol:


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: qman]
    #21962503 - 07/18/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

In theory, I agree with Patlal. However, in reality, its not a dichotomy. We have folks who want to spend more money on social programs and infastructure, and we have folks who want to cut taxes on the rich and spend more money on the military. I'm not sure which you'd consider more liberal or conservative.

Personally, I don't understand why anyone would vote republican. At least democrats try to create progress IE: here's a problem we ought to fix, lets do this. The GOP seems intent on impeding progress, destroying ala 'shrinking' government (while still happily taking their paychecks), and removing our rights; but they have no new ideas, they create no good.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Lynnch]
    #21962529 - 07/18/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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In theory, I agree with Patlal. However, in reality, its not a dichotomy. We have folks who want to spend more money on social programs and infastructure, and we have folks who want to cut taxes on the rich and spend more money on the military. I'm not sure which you'd consider more liberal or conservative.

Personally, I don't understand why anyone would vote republican. At least democrats try to create progress IE: here's a problem we ought to fix, lets do this. The GOP seems intent on impeding progress, destroying ala 'shrinking' government (while still happily taking their paychecks), and removing our rights; but they have no new ideas, they create no good.




Please explain to us how the largest income and wealth inequality in over 80 has occurred during Obama's term? 

Explain why government spending growth is the slowest rate in over 40 years?

You have fallen for the headline generalizations when it comes to political parties, do some research and find the truth.

Democrats aren't liberal and Republicans aren't conservative, they both serve the top regardless of party lines.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: qman]
    #21962547 - 07/18/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

why can't you just tell the truth, if you know it?


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    #21962564 - 07/18/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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why can't you just tell the truth, if you know it?




They might kill me if I say it.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: qman]
    #21962568 - 07/18/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Who are THEY?


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    #21962584 - 07/18/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Who are THEY?




Illuminati  :cookiemonster:


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: qman]
    #21962585 - 07/18/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Income inequality has been increasing since the "trickle down" policies of Reagan in the '80s.

Spending is down eh? I dunno, because of some obsession over reducing the debt. Or maybe because we finally ended an idiotic war, that ought to slow spending.

Unfortunately, these days it's possible to 'do research' and find any number or sources to back up your own ill-founded beliefs. I doubt that any of us know the real truth.

True that. So vote Bernie? Or what?


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Who are THEY?




Illuminati  :cookiemonster:



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    #21962593 - 07/18/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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    #21962595 - 07/18/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The Republican majority is Conservitive - they like conserving money for hundreds of generations all while  dressing Conservitive -which is funny. Dressing conservitive contradicts the defintion of conserving because dressing Conservitive means you dress wealthy--while Conserving means you save, which one is it ?

Imo,  conservitives are outdated white males who are old , racist, sexist, religious, rural ,and have no inner world expirence because they're stuck in an echo chamber where they only hear Conservitive self righteous assness. Conservitives have a conservitive agenda and therfore don't have ability to be free thinkers because they're conserving 50 year old policies and regurigitating it to conserve their bullshit , because that's all the white wing is.., bullshit. Old, dried , wrinkled, bullshit .


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    #21962599 - 07/18/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Income inequality has been increasing since the "trickle down" policies of Reagan in the '80s.

Spending is down eh? I dunno, because of some obsession over reducing the debt. Or maybe because we finally ended an idiotic war, that ought to slow spending.

Unfortunately, these days it's possible to 'do research' and find any number or sources to back up your own ill-founded beliefs. I doubt that any of us know the real truth.

True that. So vote Bernie? Or what?




The point is, having Obama in for 6 years was supposed to lift up the underprivileged and level out the playing field, the compete OPPOSITE has happened, the rich have gotten richer at the faster pace than ever before while the middle and lower classes have fallen down a few steps, so much for headline politics.


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    #21962608 - 07/18/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

MMMmm I dunno about all that dude. Obama was elected to end the fucking wars. ReElected to make some changes to the healthcare system.
The GOP gives him enough shit already for his executive orders- Any actual change is just as much up to the legislature as to him, if not more.

Side note: I haven't been here in like a halfa year. How are you not all dead yet? Damn.


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The Republican majority is Conservitive - they like conserving money for hundreds of generations all while  dressing Conservitive -which is funny. Dressing conservitive contradicts the defintion of conserving because dressing Conservitive means you dress wealthy--while Conserving means you save, which one is it ?

Imo,  conservitives are outdated white males who are old , racist, sexist, religious, rural ,and have no inner world expirence because they're stuck in an echo chamber where they only hear Conservitive self righteous assness. Conservitives have a conservitive agenda and therfore don't have ability to be free thinkers because they're conserving 50 year old policies and regurigitating it to conserve their bullshit , because that's all the white wing is.., bullshit. Old, dried , wrinkled, bullshit .




There's plenty of ignorant conservative fucktards for sure, but it's the same thing for the loony left. 

The point is, you think it's only the old white Republican that sold your ass out, I got news for you, Obama, Hillary and the other Dems did the same dam thing, there're just better hypocrites than the right.


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    #21962614 - 07/18/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

until the the right get in office... than the tables will turn yet again. :cookiemonster:


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    #21962628 - 07/18/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

All I'm sayin is, folks on the left will talk about income inequality and what to do about it; the right? Fuck you, give tax breaks to the rich!


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Republicans are not conservatives and they haven't fucked Wisconsin,  Even FDR warned against public sector unions and they are fucking the taxpayer to death everywhere the exist in force.  Scott Walker is a hero.




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All I'm sayin is, folks on the left will talk about income inequality and what to do about it; the right? Fuck you, give tax breaks to the rich!




Talk is just talk, it's say one thing and then (wink,wink) do another, does it make you feel better having someone talk nice to you before sucker punching you in the face?

People forget who put Obama into office in 2008, the Banksters!!!  They don't talk about that fact in the MSM do they?  :rofl2:


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    #21962663 - 07/18/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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vote Bernie








werd.


The guy makes a lot of big promises(sound familiar?) but he by far has the most accountability, integrity, and consistency.

I will literally shit if we elect another Bush or Clinton to office.


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    #21962672 - 07/18/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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vote Bernie








werd.


The guy makes a lot of big promises(sound familiar?) but he by far has the most accountability, integrity, and consistency.

I will literally shit if we elect another Bush or Clinton to office.



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    #21962676 - 07/18/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Again, at least Democrats try to do something about it. Republicans are too busy demonizing immigrants and keeping wages down and removing our rights and impeding the political process to do anything about it (not that they want to). We could actually be fixing issues, but these fuckwits just want to continue the same old political distractions.

I'm pretty sure Mr. Obama overwhelmingly won the popular vote.


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    #21962696 - 07/18/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Again, at least Democrats try to do something about it. Republicans are too busy demonizing immigrants and keeping wages down and removing our rights and impeding the political process to do anything about it (not that they want to). We could actually be fixing issues, but these fuckwits just want to continue the same old political distractions.

I'm pretty sure Mr. Obama overwhelmingly won the popular vote.




Who do you think depresses wages, illegal immigrants!!!  Who passed NAFTA 20 years ago they killed jobs and wages in the US?  Clinton.

Who's promoting the largest trade deal (TPP) in US history?  You got it, your big liberal friend Obama.

I hate the break the news, but the D's sold us out a long time ago, people like you just keep buying into the rhetoric while getting fucked in the ass, I'm glad your at least enjoying it.  :lol:


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    #21962699 - 07/18/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i'd figure (as an impartial Canadian) that these guys try to work out a deal that will end up pleasing both sides, on paper, so to speak; but they end up upsetting one side while making the other side look like they are only in it for themselves. :shrug:


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i'd figure (as an impartial Canadian) that these guys try to work out a deal that will end up pleasing both sides, on paper, so to speak; but they end up upsetting one side while making the other side look like they are only in it for themselves. :shrug:




They are masters at creating the illusion that democracy is at work, peel back a few layers and we find we have a one party system.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: moehd]
    #21962724 - 07/18/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think it is true that almost everyone's political views change as they get older, but I don't think they change in one single direction. I think they just change in general. When I was younger, I had a hard time understanding where anyone else was coming from. Now, I understand where everyone is coming from, but I hate pretty much all politics in general. Of course, I keep up with it because I'm a politics junkie, but I'm inherently very distrustful of anything political.

The problem with politics is that it makes enemies out of people who would otherwise be friends. I try to keep out of politics as much as possible while still watching it. I'd way rather be friends with someone than argue with them about some stupid political thing. I like to watch things as a kind of neutral observer, like watching a game of chess or football. I can admire the plays on all sides without ever really being on any side.

Besides, my actual political beliefs are all over the map. Every party would hate me equally.

Oh, also, there are tons of conservatives. Visit Wyoming or Oklahoma or (most of) Texas some time. There are just as many conservatives as there are liberals.


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They are masters at creating the illusion that democracy is at work, peel back a few layers and we find we have a one party system.



what you say sounds sensible.


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    #21962735 - 07/18/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

But those are states with low Population density


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    #21962736 - 07/18/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Illegal immigration is nothing like the problem that republicans would like you to believe it is. Just a simple distraction.

Yep, the trade deals suck. Most liberals are pissed.

For the N'th time, at least the democrats work towards fixing some of the problems rather than fucking us even more like the republicans.

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    #21962739 - 07/18/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

the solution to what? you can't just taper off into another subject from previously mentioned and expect a concise and nuanced answer. no offence.



but to answer your wide ranging question, stop focusing on the fact that you're not able to provide...my answer would be to forget about the politics around you for now, and focus on yourself.

but that doesn't really solve anything, it just denotes less value on the abject failure that is American politics.


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Illegal immigration is nothing like the problem that republicans would like you to believe it is. Just a simple distraction.

Yep, the trade deals suck. Most liberals are pissed.

For the N'th time, at least the democrats work towards fixing some of the problems rather than fucking us even more like the republicans.

So what is the solution?



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    #21962780 - 07/18/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lol, meant to reply to Qman.

But i appreciate your response, it's one ive heard before. 'Fuck politics, work on your own world' is something I can get behind. Better than 'politics is fucked, the world is fucked' anyway.

We need more solutions, rather than finger pointing.


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    #21962822 - 07/18/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Laissez-faire Capitalism is my solution. though, i am inept at salesmanship. i cannot lie very well.


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    #21962940 - 07/18/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

corrupt democrats exist but that's only  because they have the  Republican Party to negotiate corruption with . Dems have to play the game too , if they don't,  they get fucked and the
re-pubic-hair-cunts re-Pube the cunt hair and win the fabulous cunt game.

Get rid of the Republican Party and watch the diseased nuts of the left drop  like the  pubescent nuts they are . By far , Republican conservitives have got to be the worse thing America has got going for it self. They are the problem and represent everything evil in this country. I love the republicans, because hate is bad

Have you ever watched a republican try to tell a joke , its terrible , they have no humor and Probually wouldn't beleive you when announcing  your child was missing but instead think its a celebration because they hate kids and would rather them be at war anyhow. Pro life ,pro war, life.

The only thing good Hillary Clinton has got going is Bill , her husband , a great president. Hlliairy is a money woman , so is Obama , they'd suck a million cocks for a million bocks, but they're still better than a Conserviing republican whos  goal is to go to war and conserve blood money

A democrat will call Obama out on his flaws while a republican will make a bunch of lies about flaws they wish Obama had , most republicans Probually still love George bush , love war , hate Mexicans and niggers , hate gays  but are the gayest people in the planet.


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republican's are not really that.


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We're all dying off.  Personally I am still concerned about fascist ideals taking hold and over entitled authoritarian manipulators.  I do have hope.  I don't think that the changes most of us would like to see will ever come to full fruition in our lifetime, but I am certain that everything we appreciate about our lives came out of the civil rights movement and people working together for common and selfless goals.

It really doesn't take a world full of assholes for shit to happen, it just takes a couple assholes and a population that is spineless and unknowing or uncaring of how bad things can get if we forget to look out for each-other.

I don't see why anyone would identify as conservative, and I find talking to them about politics seems like they're constantly playing a competitive game where they always want to turn everything I say back on me. 

Cultural diversity, civil rights, and humanism are all cancers to mankind.  The fact that some people are able to manipulate themselves into positions of unlimited financial and social influence is completely sacrosanct.  It is a fundamental disagreement regarding visions for humanity to me, and the fact that "conservatives" in most cases cannot just come out and say what they actually believe is frustrating to me, but hopefully a sign that they are on the defensive. 

I predict it is a matter of years before the first lesbian president is making out with her wife in the oval office and conservatives will meet in men's bathrooms to discuss Ayn Rand while they fantasize about the world was one big macho circle-jerk.


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Trump is just coming out and saying it and it is scaring the shit out of the rest of the party.


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    #21963668 - 07/19/15 07:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hillary Clinton is that lesbian, ...I'd watch.


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Income inequality has been increasing since the "trickle down" policies of Reagan in the '80s.

Spending is down eh? I dunno, because of some obsession over reducing the debt. Or maybe because we finally ended an idiotic war, that ought to slow spending.

Unfortunately, these days it's possible to 'do research' and find any number or sources to back up your own ill-founded beliefs. I doubt that any of us know the real truth.

True that. So vote Bernie? Or what?



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Being a Liberal is for young people that still have dreams, hope and ambition. It's a young man's game.

Conservativism is for older people who no longer dream, who's hope is aimed on retiring as soon as possible and whos ambition is to do that at whatever cost to others it takes.





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    #21965037 - 07/19/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Conservatism is for people who get handed the bill for liberalism.  As Maggie Thatcher said, eventually you run out of other people's money.  People who vote liberal are more often than not the unproductive bums of society.


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Being a Liberal is for young people that still have dreams, hope and ambition. It's a young man's game.

Conservativism is for older people who no longer dream, who's hope is aimed on retiring as soon as possible and whos ambition is to do that at whatever cost to others it takes.





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Tell that to Zappa, about Liberals.


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If they stop taking my money I won't think they are the enemy


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    #21965861 - 07/19/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yep they thankfully are. Hopefully we can move toward a more progressive society that values logic and reasoning and compassion over ignorance and stupidity. Conservatives are regressive selfish ego driven morons who care only about money and wealth and want to force America to turn to Jeezus. Not to mention they don't care about the environment, want to imprison drug users, are racists and backward and overall just ignorant.


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    #21965907 - 07/19/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I honestly think we are fighting the wrong enemy. The enemy of humanity is authoritarianism, labels
Like conservative and liberal are extensions of this philosophy. Notice how liberals can be idiotic and are completely ok with the government controlling everything and taking power from the people. It's like their priorities are all mixed up and backwards. Conservatives on the other hand want to be in control of everything and want it all to themselves. If it was up to them everyone would be enslaved to their corporations and they would control everything with their economic power and basically monopolize life itself. Look at Monsanto, who is behind them and their supporters? Capitalist conservatives who are so greedy they basically want to patent food so they can monopolize humanities source of life. Conservatives are despicable while liberals are stupid and confused. Libertarianism is the only logical ideology, and I'm not talking about psycho extremist Sovereign Citizens. I'm talking about us freedom fighters.


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    #21965910 - 07/19/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Imprisoning drug users is completely bipartisan. Some of the biggest antidrug people were democrats, and some of the other biggest antidrug people were republicans. Liberals and democrats can be just as racist as anyone.

Just as many conservatives are atheist as liberals. In fact, Zappa here is an atheist, as are most of the other conservatives on these boards.

You claim that conservatives lack compassion, yet conservatives are the ones who argue for advocating freedom and democracy in other countries. Conservatives are the ones who bash countries like China for their outrageous violations of basic human freedoms.

Just because conservatives realize that much of their tax money is being wasted on corruption and worthless bullshit doesn't mean that they're "selfish ego driven morons who only care about money." It just means they're informed.

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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Janky Tits]
    #21965922 - 07/19/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It isn't logical to confiscate the property of people who produce to give to people who don't and it isn't logical to open the borders up to people from loser nations who thus depress the wages of our own citizens and depress their employment opportunities


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Janky Tits]
    #21965951 - 07/19/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Yep they thankfully are. Hopefully we can move toward a more progressive society that values logic and reasoning and compassion over ignorance and stupidity. Conservatives are regressive selfish ego driven morons who care only about money and wealth and want to force America to turn to Jeezus. Not to mention they don't care about the environment, want to imprison drug users, are racists and backward and overall just ignorant.





so liberals talk a good game about being for the people and the earth while in
practice they're worse than conservatives in every aspect that you just named, it
was after all the republicans that introduced passed every piece of legislation
that freed the slaves, gave blacks rights that allowed them to be treated as
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    #21965957 - 07/19/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I honestly think we are fighting the wrong enemy. The enemy of humanity is authoritarianism, labels






didnt you just label conservatives as ignorant racists


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    #21965974 - 07/19/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Conservative values are mostly ignorant,  I added to my comment to state liberals are just as stupid and misguided.


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    #21966002 - 07/19/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Conservative values are mostly ignorant,  I added to my comment to state liberals are just as stupid and misguided.





you really dont appear to even have a concept of what the values of either side are


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21966044 - 07/19/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It isn't logical to confiscate the property of people who produce to give to people who don't and it isn't logical to open the borders up to people from loser nations who thus depress the wages of our own citizens and depress their employment opportunities



I actually don't agree with immigration, especially to Europe which isn't able to handle mass immigration like the US. Charming and socially sound countries with progressive polices and values (secularism, drug tolerance, social liberalism) like The Netherlands and Scandinavian countries are being flooded by Muslim immigrants from Pakistan, Turkey, Indonesia, and Iraq, third world shitholes with backward people who believe in the words of a barbaric pedophile conquerer and a backwards book of lies that tells it's believers to kill and terrorize the non-believers. I'm not saying all are but a lot are. I'm not trying to be racist but really endless Somali and African immigrants to Europe can't possibly be a good thing but it's mostly the Muslims I have a problem with. France might as well be Africa or Iraq with how many Muslims and third world people are there and that isn't cool. Immigration is a good thing but not the way Western Europe is doing it, endless third world immigration to small secular countries like The Netherlands is not a good thing. A lot of Swedes are giving up on their own country, their government and society has become so liberal they are totally ok with letting in endless immigrants from Africa and The Middle East, there was even one such case were a Swedish attorney whose job is to protect the Swedish public didn't want to deport a Somali guy who raped a dead Swedish woman because he thought deporting him would endanger the Somalians in Somalia.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Janky Tits]
    #21966058 - 07/19/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

We can't handle it either.  Labor force participation is at the lowest level since the seventies before women entered the work force in huge numbers.  We don't need any illegal immigrants doing bullshit work.  We have our own unemployed morons


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    #21966062 - 07/19/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Conservative values are mostly ignorant,  I added to my comment to state liberals are just as stupid and misguided.





you really dont appear to even have a concept of what the values of either side are



I do, conservatives are all big business less government intervention into said big business aka Laissez Faire. Social conservatism is all for traditional values. There is a spectrum which ranges from people wanting no gun control at all to people who think their should be prayer in school and people who support a bunch of traditional old school beliefs. It's so expansive but a lot of the values are backwards and outdated and I honestly know few conservatives who don't support the war on drugs..
Liberalism Im not going to bother explaining


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Janky Tits]
    #21966067 - 07/19/15 04:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I actually don't agree with immigration, especially to Europe





so you're a heartless, racist, xenophobe

and a liberal, imagine that

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Charming and socially sound countries with progressive polices and values (secularism, drug tolerance, social liberalism) like The Netherlands and Scandinavian countries are being flooded by Muslim immigrants from Pakistan, Turkey, Indonesia, and Iraq, third world shitholes with backward people who believe in the words of a barbaric pedophile conquerer and a backwards book of lies that tells it's believers to kill and terrorize the non-believers.




this is surely helping to prove you arent a hearless racisist that's just
looking out for himself, I mean all these people are just trying to make a
better life


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I'm not saying all are but a lot are. I'm not trying to be racist but really endless Somali and African immigrants to Europe can't possibly be a good thing but it's mostly the Muslims I have a problem with. France might as well be Africa or Iraq with how many Muslims and third world people are there and that isn't cool. Immigration is a good thing but not the way Western Europe is doing it, endless third world immigration to small secular countries like The Netherlands is not a good thing. A lot of Swedes are giving up on their own country, their government and society has become so liberal they are totally ok with letting in endless immigrants from Africa and The Middle East, there was even one such case were a Swedish attorney whose job is to protect the Swedish public didn't want to deport a Somali guy who raped a dead Swedish woman because he thought deporting him would endanger the Somalians in Somalia.





so what you''re saying is that as a liberal, you decided to swear that
conservatives are just like you in your hate of brown people and africans
alike when in fact it's just you liberals


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Janky Tits]
    #21966075 - 07/19/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You don't have to explain liberalism and you seem to be acknowledging that there are many views under the conservatism tent.

Liberalism.  Take some people's money and give it to other people who you favor.  Power.  By the way, big business favoritism is not a feature of conservatism.  Its a feature of both parties and neither ideology.


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Janky Tits]
    #21966081 - 07/19/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Conservative values are mostly ignorant,  I added to my comment to state liberals are just as stupid and misguided.





you really dont appear to even have a concept of what the values of either side are



I do, conservatives are all big business less government intervention into said big business aka Laissez Faire. Social conservatism is all for traditional values. There is a spectrum which ranges from people wanting no gun control at all to people who think their should be prayer in school and people who support a bunch of traditional old school beliefs. It's so expansive but a lot of the values are backwards and outdated and I honestly know few conservatives who don't support the war on drugs..
Liberalism Im not going to bother explaining





once more you show you have no concept of either side, certainly not of the
conservatives, I'm just going out on a limb to say you get this info from other
liberals and blogs and shit and probably even make some of it up since it's
clear you must not know many conservatives because around here I see the few
conservatives calling for a complete repeal of drug legislation while the
liberals are insisting that only a few drugs be allowed as legal, a few even
feel that prohibition is a positive thing, we can see evidence in the liberal
stronghold of california where legalization was on the table and the liberal
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21966087 - 07/19/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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We can't handle it either.  Labor force participation is at the lowest level since the seventies before women entered the work force in huge numbers.  We don't need any illegal immigrants doing bullshit work.  We have our own unemployed morons



Well I don't think we need illegals either but it's not as bad as Western Europe. We have a huge ass country that can handle the wave of immigrant fret are taking in. That doesn't change the fact however that I don't agree with illegals coming here without papers.
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I actually don't agree with immigration, especially to Europe





so you're a heartless, racist, xenophobe

and a liberal, imagine that

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Charming and socially sound countries with progressive polices and values (secularism, drug tolerance, social liberalism) like The Netherlands and Scandinavian countries are being flooded by Muslim immigrants from Pakistan, Turkey, Indonesia, and Iraq, third world shitholes with backward people who believe in the words of a barbaric pedophile conquerer and a backwards book of lies that tells it's believers to kill and terrorize the non-believers.




this is surely helping to prove you arent a hearless racisist that's just
looking out for himself, I mean all these people are just trying to make a
better life


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I'm not saying all are but a lot are. I'm not trying to be racist but really endless Somali and African immigrants to Europe can't possibly be a good thing but it's mostly the Muslims I have a problem with. France might as well be Africa or Iraq with how many Muslims and third world people are there and that isn't cool. Immigration is a good thing but not the way Western Europe is doing it, endless third world immigration to small secular countries like The Netherlands is not a good thing. A lot of Swedes are giving up on their own country, their government and society has become so liberal they are totally ok with letting in endless immigrants from Africa and The Middle East, there was even one such case were a Swedish attorney whose job is to protect the Swedish public didn't want to deport a Somali guy who raped a dead Swedish woman because he thought deporting him would endanger the Somalians in Somalia.



.

so what you''re saying is that as a liberal, you decided to swear that
conservatives are just like you in your hate of brown people and africans
alike when in fact it's just you liberals




Not a liberal at all, and it's not racist to not want Muslims and Africans to take over your country as they please especially if they are backward and could ruin a utopia like Amsterdam or Copenhagen with their shitty beliefs and third world behavior. I'm ok with Mexicans and Hispanics and anyone coming to America because they aren't trouble like Muslims as long as the immigration doesn't go crazy. It's only fair to have control of how many foreign people enter your country. Especially people like Muslims who have dangerous beliefs.


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    #21966103 - 07/19/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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they are backward and could ruin a utopia like Amsterdam or Copenhagen






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    #21966120 - 07/19/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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    #21966122 - 07/19/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Conservative values are mostly ignorant,  I added to my comment to state liberals are just as stupid and misguided.





you really dont appear to even have a concept of what the values of either side are



I do, conservatives are all big business less government intervention into said big business aka Laissez Faire. Social conservatism is all for traditional values. There is a spectrum which ranges from people wanting no gun control at all to people who think their should be prayer in school and people who support a bunch of traditional old school beliefs. It's so expansive but a lot of the values are backwards and outdated and I honestly know few conservatives who don't support the war on drugs..
Liberalism Im not going to bother explaining





once more you show you have no concept of either side, certainly not of the
conservatives, I'm just going out on a limb to say you get this info from other
liberals and blogs and shit and probably even make some of it up since it's
clear you must not know many conservatives because around here I see the few
conservatives calling for a complete repeal of drug legislation while the
liberals are insisting that only a few drugs be allowed as legal, a few even
feel that prohibition is a positive thing, we can see evidence in the liberal
stronghold of california where legalization was on the table and the liberal
people of california voted it down



I wonder why you keep insisting I'm a liberal. I have a good grasp of what conservatism is and Repealing drug legislation is probably like the last thing on their list along with accepting gay marriage and abortion. Maybe it's because all politics are bullshit and corrupt that I don't bother to look at each side more closely and see what they've updated in their respective ideologies in an effort to stay relevant and popular among the idiots who are rooting for whatever thing they are rooting for at the time. If what you are saying is true and if these revisions have been made to each ideology then I guess it's 1860 all over again. The Republicans are the blacks, Quakers and the abolitionists and the KKK, the nativists, and the WASPS are all Democrats.


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    #21966127 - 07/19/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

In the end it doesn't matter. Both are shit and corrupt and I support neither.


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    #21966153 - 07/19/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I wonder why you keep insisting I'm a liberal. I have a good grasp of what conservatism is and Repealing drug legislation is probably like the last thing on their list along with accepting gay marriage and abortion. Maybe it's because all politics are bullshit and corrupt that I don't bother to look at each side more closely and see what they've updated in their respective ideologies in an effort to stay relevant and popular among the idiots who are rooting for whatever thing they are rooting for at the time. If what you are saying is true and if these revisions have been made to each ideology then I guess it's 1860 all over again. The Republicans are the blacks, Quakers and the abolitionists and the KKK, the nativists, and the WASPS are all Democrats.





spoken like a true liberal, I bet you call yourself a progressive though, even worse than a standard liberal


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    #21966168 - 07/19/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I wonder why you keep insisting I'm a liberal. I have a good grasp of what conservatism is and Repealing drug legislation is probably like the last thing on their list along with accepting gay marriage and abortion. Maybe it's because all politics are bullshit and corrupt that I don't bother to look at each side more closely and see what they've updated in their respective ideologies in an effort to stay relevant and popular among the idiots who are rooting for whatever thing they are rooting for at the time. If what you are saying is true and if these revisions have been made to each ideology then I guess it's 1860 all over again. The Republicans are the blacks, Quakers and the abolitionists and the KKK, the nativists, and the WASPS are all Democrats.





spoken like a true liberal, I bet you call yourself a progressive though, even worse than a standard liberal




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    #21966196 - 07/19/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

it's good to see you've finally embrace your liberalism and racism


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    #21966275 - 07/19/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It's hard to take a conservative psychedelic user seriously. That's an oxymoron but ok




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    #21966703 - 07/19/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

conservatives arent old and wise they're just old and ignorant


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: moehd]
    #21966756 - 07/19/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If you get the bill you will change your tune.  I got my own peeps to pay for.  The bums can go fuck themselves


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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21967930 - 07/19/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It looks like the Democrats are the party of angry old white people just look at their candidates.

And the Republican party is anything but conservative.  that's just a made-up bullshit label like Liberal is.  In any even, both the mainstream parties, are for Authoritarian Statism.  All the bullshit rhetoric about fairness and values and all that other shit is just telling people what they want to hear. 

Both parties are a big, festering canker sore in the asshole of the United States, Washington DC.  There probably aren't more than 15 or 2 honorable people in Congress--you can identify them as the ones that will get attack by the establishment mainstream parties of D and R.

And as far as 'liberalism is blah blah blah 'reason, logic' it is nothing of the sort. It is based on emotional feel-goodism.  I dont really give a fuck what other people do, i want to be left alone.  All this 'racism gay rights transgender blah blah blah bullshit is just a misdirection.

the real problem is the fucking monopoly money we are printing, the pimping off of americas future by tons of debt, the rapid destruction of the middle class that is brought about by the politicians, yes THEY are the ones responsbible, not corporations.

ANd in the end, it is all you clueless fucking tools on the right and left who keep voting them in because THE PEOPLE HAVE ABSOLUTE POWER TO THROW THEM OUT.  It isn't exercised--the people just vote for the same ole thing.

I will bet that we could vote in 535 clowns wearing studded dog collars and Congress wouldn't miss a beat.  In fact it would probably be an improvement. :awedisgust:


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    #21968360 - 07/20/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It is nearly impossible to change someone's mind when it comes to politics, but I thought I'd put this here just to make things easy and simple.

Conservatives are, as the name suggests, a party that wants to keep old values and old rules. America used to be a powerful warmonger that supported nothing but the bible and white men. Our country has come a long way since then do to progressive ideology

Liberals are the complete opposite. They see the need for change in the way our country works. Not every change is a good one, but we DO NEED some changes, that is undeniable.

Conservatives are ignorant

Liberals are stupid (although smart liberals, the ones who come up with the useful, non far fetched ideas are EXTREMELY beneficial)


At the end of the day, no one wins because neither is the right way, although it is only with left wing ideology that we can progress. Obviously some progressive moves are either bad or very controversial, but you can't just keep the same damn laws from 300 years ago (conservatism)


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