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Patlal
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: moehd]
#21961549 - 07/18/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Patlal said: A good government requires both Liberals and Conservatives.
Just like nature. When a forrest has lot of wolves, they eat more deer. When there aren't enough deer left for the entire pack, wolves start starving to death and suddenly there are less predators and the deer population shoots up again which means more wolves can be born, etc. Cycle of life.
Protons need electrons and electrons need protons. They are complete opposites, but they need each other to become greater than themselves in order to build molecules.
One without the other become unstable, reactive, then radio active and then everything blows up in your face and you're left wondering what went wrong...
or we could evolve and be like Switzerland
Their country is the size of my car, they have a small population and they are surrounded by rich countries. North America doesn't have that luxury. Too big, too populated, we have 3 oceans and Mexico...
What a country becomes depends on it's surroundings.
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Patlal]
#21961556 - 07/18/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That doesn't mean we couldn't try instituting some similar policies. We may lack the resources per individual for it to succeed on the level it has for them, but that doesn't mean we should be afraid to move in that direction.
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moehd
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Patlal]
#21961560 - 07/18/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
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moehd said:
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Patlal said: A good government requires both Liberals and Conservatives.
Just like nature. When a forrest has lot of wolves, they eat more deer. When there aren't enough deer left for the entire pack, wolves start starving to death and suddenly there are less predators and the deer population shoots up again which means more wolves can be born, etc. Cycle of life.
Protons need electrons and electrons need protons. They are complete opposites, but they need each other to become greater than themselves in order to build molecules.
One without the other become unstable, reactive, then radio active and then everything blows up in your face and you're left wondering what went wrong...
or we could evolve and be like Switzerland
Their country is the size of my car, they have a small population and they are surrounded by rich countries. North America doesn't have that luxury. Too big, too populated, we have 3 oceans and Mexico...
What a country becomes depends on it's surroundings.
oceans just mean safety and you forgot about canada but any way it doesnt mean that we cant strive to copy they're model (we can still have guns )
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Patlal
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: moehd]
#21961608 - 07/18/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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moehd said:
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Patlal said:
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moehd said:
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Patlal said: A good government requires both Liberals and Conservatives.
Just like nature. When a forrest has lot of wolves, they eat more deer. When there aren't enough deer left for the entire pack, wolves start starving to death and suddenly there are less predators and the deer population shoots up again which means more wolves can be born, etc. Cycle of life.
Protons need electrons and electrons need protons. They are complete opposites, but they need each other to become greater than themselves in order to build molecules.
One without the other become unstable, reactive, then radio active and then everything blows up in your face and you're left wondering what went wrong...
or we could evolve and be like Switzerland
Their country is the size of my car, they have a small population and they are surrounded by rich countries. North America doesn't have that luxury. Too big, too populated, we have 3 oceans and Mexico...
What a country becomes depends on it's surroundings.
oceans just mean safety and you forgot about canada but any way it doesnt mean that we cant strive to copy they're model (we can still have guns )
North America. 3 oceans and Mexico.
That includes canada.
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Magicman69]
#21961816 - 07/18/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Magicman69 said: Fiscal Conservatives are abundant and actually the majority. On the contrary the majority of people are socially Liberal. So it's really a stretch to say Conservatives are dying off. Some old Conservative social ideas are dying out.
Idk.. based on your definition I would definitely say they aren't the majority. Considering (of course this is only a generalization) a lot of the minorities, i.e. the poor and middle class, want big government. And thats a large portion of the U.S.
Socially i'm in the middle i think, but fiscally I'm definitely a conservative
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Bambi] 1
#21962196 - 07/18/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gonna stay out of this one, though I might come back and edit in some insight once I sober up a bit
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: moehd] 1
#21962221 - 07/18/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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moehd said: but imo i see conservatives as dead weight in the system
they hold on too religion and there believe systems so tightly that that wanna block other from breaking free
i think if this country was all liberal the war on drugs would be ended immediately
I am as fiscally conservative as there is. I'm an atheist and support abortion rights and women's rights and gay rights and trans rights. I do not support bum rights and I do not support immigrant invader rights. The dead weight is the assholes who don't fucking work
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: zappaisgod]
#21962305 - 07/18/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Social conservatism is definitely dying off and fuckin good riddance. Conservatives in general are fuckin evil and why people vote for them, I don't know. I'm not saying that all the liberals are good but I've only seen 1 or 2 good republican politicians. Seriously, the republicans fucked Wisconsin
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: zappaisgod]
#21962313 - 07/18/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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moehd said: but imo i see conservatives as dead weight in the system
they hold on too religion and there believe systems so tightly that that wanna block other from breaking free
i think if this country was all liberal the war on drugs would be ended immediately
I am as fiscally conservative as there is. I'm an atheist and support abortion rights and women's rights and gay rights and trans rights. I do not support bum rights and I do not support immigrant invader rights. The dead weight is the assholes who don't fucking work
fair point fuck illegal immigrants but your party doesnt support any of that stuff and they're bought out shill(more so than democrats)
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: King Klick]
#21962316 - 07/18/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Republicans are not conservatives and they haven't fucked Wisconsin, Even FDR warned against public sector unions and they are fucking the taxpayer to death everywhere the exist in force. Scott Walker is a hero.
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: moehd]
#21962430 - 07/18/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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moehd said: thats why conservatives are always shit of social issues
like for instance they are anti obama care because they'er too brainwashed to see that the republican politicians they follow get bribed to go against it.
why would anyone be against diverting our tax money from war to helping out our fellow man
"anti obama care because they're too brainwashed to see the republican politicians they follow get bribed to go against it"
You're so beyond clueless, the D's and R's got paid off by the SAME corporate interests, it was theater and nothing more. Who do you think gave the D's money in this legislation?
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: King Klick]
#21962441 - 07/18/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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King Klick said: Social conservatism is definitely dying off and fuckin good riddance. Conservatives in general are fuckin evil and why people vote for them, I don't know. I'm not saying that all the liberals are good but I've only seen 1 or 2 good republican politicians. Seriously, the republicans fucked Wisconsin
There are no conservatives to vote for, so I don't know what the fuck you're even talking about.
Do you know who fucked Wisconsin? The people who sent industry out of the US, go find them.
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: qman]
#21962503 - 07/18/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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In theory, I agree with Patlal. However, in reality, its not a dichotomy. We have folks who want to spend more money on social programs and infastructure, and we have folks who want to cut taxes on the rich and spend more money on the military. I'm not sure which you'd consider more liberal or conservative.
Personally, I don't understand why anyone would vote republican. At least democrats try to create progress IE: here's a problem we ought to fix, lets do this. The GOP seems intent on impeding progress, destroying ala 'shrinking' government (while still happily taking their paychecks), and removing our rights; but they have no new ideas, they create no good.
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: Lynnch]
#21962529 - 07/18/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lynnch said: In theory, I agree with Patlal. However, in reality, its not a dichotomy. We have folks who want to spend more money on social programs and infastructure, and we have folks who want to cut taxes on the rich and spend more money on the military. I'm not sure which you'd consider more liberal or conservative.
Personally, I don't understand why anyone would vote republican. At least democrats try to create progress IE: here's a problem we ought to fix, lets do this. The GOP seems intent on impeding progress, destroying ala 'shrinking' government (while still happily taking their paychecks), and removing our rights; but they have no new ideas, they create no good.
Please explain to us how the largest income and wealth inequality in over 80 has occurred during Obama's term?
Explain why government spending growth is the slowest rate in over 40 years?
You have fallen for the headline generalizations when it comes to political parties, do some research and find the truth.
Democrats aren't liberal and Republicans aren't conservative, they both serve the top regardless of party lines.
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: qman]
#21962547 - 07/18/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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why can't you just tell the truth, if you know it?
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: akira_akuma]
#21962564 - 07/18/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: why can't you just tell the truth, if you know it?
They might kill me if I say it.
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: qman]
#21962568 - 07/18/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Who are THEY?
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nicechrisman said: Who are THEY?
Illuminati
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: qman]
#21962585 - 07/18/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Income inequality has been increasing since the "trickle down" policies of Reagan in the '80s.
Spending is down eh? I dunno, because of some obsession over reducing the debt. Or maybe because we finally ended an idiotic war, that ought to slow spending.
Unfortunately, these days it's possible to 'do research' and find any number or sources to back up your own ill-founded beliefs. I doubt that any of us know the real truth.
True that. So vote Bernie? Or what?
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Re: are conservatives dying off [Re: qman]
#21962587 - 07/18/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Who are THEY?
Illuminati 
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