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Tell a true story
    #21960805 - 07/18/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

OK, I will start: Once I turned down the opportunity to 'party' with two fitness babes at the same time.

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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21960820 - 07/18/15 02:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i was out in the woods with friends when i was young (17 or so) and the cops came after a noise complaint. they emptied all the alcohol and went through backpacks. when they grabbed my backpack, which had an ounce of dried mushrooms in it (but thankfully nothing else), they shook it and thought it was empty so they didn't open it :laugh: a close call!

that's the only story i have :undecided:


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21960827 - 07/18/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I once turned down the opportunity to get naked with two drunk sisters aged 17 and 21, I was 29. :facepalm:


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Middleman]
    #21960847 - 07/18/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I never get the opportunity to turn down babes.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Middleman]
    #21960861 - 07/18/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I once turned down the opportunity to get naked with two drunk sisters aged 17 and 21, I was 29. :facepalm:






OC was 28 here with an 18 & 19 yo.

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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21960867 - 07/18/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I never get the opportunity to turn down babes.






GET OFF THE FUCKING INTERNET!


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21960989 - 07/18/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I meant to say I once turned down the opportunity to go to a hot tub party with the Swedish bikini team.



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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21960996 - 07/18/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Sun King said:
I never get the opportunity to turn down babes.






GET OFF THE FUCKING INTERNET!





Don't you mean: get out?

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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21961017 - 07/18/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I went on one date with 80's playboy bunny, Lillian Muller. A business partner thought he was doing me a favor though I never asked. She and I had zero connection. Not even a cool story.



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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21961024 - 07/18/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I went on one date with 80's playboy bunny, Lillian Muller.





I won't date women over 50.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21961053 - 07/18/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Not yet you won't, but...

I think Lillian was about 38 (DD) at the time.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21961307 - 07/18/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

She's from norway, I wonder if liquidlounge knows her.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21961351 - 07/18/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I once let a girl in who was hanging around outside my apartment in the middle of the night, and let her sleep in my bed, while I slept on my sofa. I have never met her before or since, she was twice as drunk as I was, and she insisted to pay with sex for the hospitality. But I stubbornly refused. That didn't do her already low self confidence any good, but… not my problem.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Rhizoid]
    #21961367 - 07/18/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21961670 - 07/18/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I unofficially hold the world record for fastest flight in a light aircraft from Manassas, VA to Charleston, SC.  3 hours 23 minutes 6 seconds in a Cessna 172 (with extended range tanks).  My dad is the official world record-holder, and I say unofficial for me because I was not yet eighteen at the time, which would have qualified me. :sad:  I think I was eleven.  This was done in the early nineties, and the record still stands.

Anyway, unofficial my ass I hold a world record.  :laugh:


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #21961744 - 07/18/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Its a revolution party

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Re: Tell a true story [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #21961849 - 07/18/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I unofficially hold the world record for fastest flight in a light aircraft from Manassas, VA to Charleston, SC.  3 hours 23 minutes 6 seconds in a Cessna 172 (with extended range tanks).  My dad is the official world record-holder, and I say unofficial for me because I was not yet eighteen at the time, which would have qualified me. :sad:  I think I was eleven.  This was done in the early nineties, and the record still stands.

Anyway, unofficial my ass I hold a world record.  :laugh:




How many people have attempted this feat?


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King] * 1
    #21961876 - 07/18/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just us. :thumbup:


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #21961923 - 07/18/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21962192 - 07/18/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have turned down so many opportunities that I wish I hadn't. Girls that I liked, interesting groups that I could have been a part of, knowledgeable people that I could have learnt from...



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Re: Tell a true story [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #21964163 - 07/19/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Just us. :thumbup:




Still a great accomplishment for an 11 yo.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21964234 - 07/19/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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She's from norway, I wonder if liquidlounge knows her.



I bet she likes cute members.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: liquidlounge]
    #21964524 - 07/19/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

LiquidLounge is stalking me.

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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21964615 - 07/19/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nice to finally have one person who cares about you.

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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21964661 - 07/19/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Personal attacks will not be tolerated

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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21964796 - 07/19/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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LiquidLounge is stalking me.

:cantwashthataway:



That's what you get for being the top prize in theme parks. :shakefist:


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21964946 - 07/19/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Nice to finally have one person who cares about you.

:pedrophile:




My Mom cares about me.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21965021 - 07/19/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Your mom has a moustache and a creepy smile? :whoa:


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21965045 - 07/19/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Your mom has a moustache and a creepy smile? :whoa:




What's your point?


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21965086 - 07/19/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:awwhellno:


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Khancious]
    #21965473 - 07/19/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Khancious said:
Personal attacks will not be tolerated

:blowmybrainsout:



I feel the OC and Son King overran us.

Let's start our own club. Oh wait we already have won. :haha:

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Re: Tell a true story [Re: liquidlounge]
    #21965591 - 07/19/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21965745 - 07/19/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I thought you were cute... :sad:


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: liquidlounge]
    #21965831 - 07/19/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Fooled you.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21965870 - 07/19/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Why can't you be like Ted?

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Re: Tell a true story [Re: liquidlounge]
    #21966000 - 07/19/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am Ted.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21966015 - 07/19/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

True Enlightened Deity? :levitate:


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21966080 - 07/19/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, I used to ride a unicorn.



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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21966094 - 07/19/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I tried a sample at Panda Express - deep fried with sesame seeds and teriyaki sauce. Mmmm!


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21966112 - 07/19/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, that place is creepy.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21966389 - 07/19/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I am Ted.



I don't like Ted.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: liquidlounge]
    #21966459 - 07/19/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

How about ted in bed?  :studmuffin:

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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21966480 - 07/19/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I did an apprenticeship with this guy a long time ago. He was this pothead guy who was like a master electrician. He specialized in audio systems, mancaves, abnormal fixtures and shit like that he was really good at what he did. He was the worst perfectionist personality I ever seen but was young at heart and we had a lot in common otherwise, mostly talking mma between tasks, playing live stream ufc events while working and cracking electrical puns all day, shooting the shit, talking about life and our goals. He was cool and had a steady bit of work going, I liked working for him.

One day he tells me we are going to this multimillion dollar condo to rewire this guys bathroom who's like half blind and can't see well enough with his lights. So we ran to home depot, picked up some very strong spotlight grade bulbs, laughed thinking how we were probably destroying the last of the blind man's eyesight, and got over to the condo to start cutting out this guys ceiling. It was a chill job, easy enough. The house sitter there was this lady who was the owners secretary. She was housitting this dog though, this is the interesting part.

This dog was very, very small and old with a yoda like appearance and had a strangely advanced presence. It would sit in and seem to listen to our conversations. It stared at us with such a look of complete profundity that I began to feel ill at ease and wondered what it could possibly thinking about.

The secretary was convinced the dog was a human mind stuck in a dogs body. We couldnt disagree with the sentiment. It seemed to be able to understand what we were saying. It seemed to carry this incredible amount of existential pain. Its graveness reminded me of Nietzsche and while I found it funny at first, it became eerie after awhile and I was glad when we were done. I've never really known what to think of that


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: liquidlounge]
    #21966549 - 07/19/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Sun King said:
I am Ted.



I don't like Ted.




Ted likes you, sort of.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21966564 - 07/19/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I did an apprenticeship with this guy a long time ago. He was this pothead guy who was like a master electrician. He specialized in audio systems, mancaves, abnormal fixtures and shit like that he was really good at what he did. He was the worst perfectionist personality I ever seen but was young at heart and we had a lot in common otherwise, mostly talking mma between tasks, playing live stream ufc events while working and cracking electrical puns all day, shooting the shit, talking about life and our goals. He was cool and had a steady bit of work going, I liked working for him.

One day he tells me we are going to this multimillion dollar condo to rewire this guys bathroom who's like half blind and can't see well enough with his lights. So we ran to home depot, picked up some very strong spotlight grade bulbs, laughed thinking how we were probably destroying the last of the blind man's eyesight, and got over to the condo to start cutting out this guys ceiling. It was a chill job, easy enough. The house sitter there was this lady who was the owners secretary. She was housitting this dog though, this is the interesting part.

This dog was very, very small and old with a yoda like appearance and had a strangely advanced presence. It would sit in and seem to listen to our conversations. It stared at us with such a look of complete profundity that I began to feel ill at ease and wondered what it could possibly thinking about.

The secretary was convinced the dog was a human mind stuck in a dogs body. We couldnt disagree with the sentiment. It seemed to be able to understand what we were saying. It seemed to carry this incredible amount of existential pain. Its graveness reminded me of Nietzsche and while I found it funny at first, it became eerie after awhile and I was glad when we were done. I've never really known what to think of that




Was it the oracle?


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21966713 - 07/19/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I spent many days and nights trying to figure that out. By the time I understood the answer, I no longer even remotely gave a shit or remembered what had brought me to the question in the first place. Such is the nature of such things :tongue:


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: saenchai]
    #21966767 - 07/19/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I spent many days and nights trying to figure that out. By the time I understood the answer, I no longer even remotely gave a shit or remembered what had brought me to the question in the first place. Such is the nature of such things :tongue:




well, thanks for sharing that story.

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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21967090 - 07/19/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Wasted years? Nah, just chase them beers

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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Khancious]
    #21967345 - 07/19/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

An 18 year old girl I had never met before made me stop at wallgreens to buy duster cans and took turns between smoking crack and inhaling the duster in my back seat.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21967453 - 07/19/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Were you in an old Plymouth Duster?


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21968679 - 07/20/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

One night I was getting on when my guy offered to shoot heroine with him and his gf in a toilet. I also declined his offer to buy meth and subsequently never saw him again.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21970665 - 07/20/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Were you in an old Plymouth Duster?



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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21970711 - 07/20/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Never EVER try to make out in an old VW Beetle. :nono:

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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21970731 - 07/20/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've sold heroin to a pregnant girl around 20-30 times.  She was probably 19 or 20.  The sad thing is I don't feel strongly about it one way or another, I was just doing what I had to to survive.  Does that make me a bad person?


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21970745 - 07/20/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:whatwhatwhat:

Yes!

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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21970773 - 07/20/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:shrug:  Kid was going to get it from someone anyways.

She had another kid since then and he been in prison for a couple years.  She was fucked no matter what I did.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Khancious]
    #21970852 - 07/20/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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How about ted in bed?  :studmuffin:

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Ted plead guilty. :sad:


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Sun King]
    #21970863 - 07/20/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I am Ted.



I don't like Ted.




Ted likes you, sort of.



Teddy bears have no emotion, that movie was fake.


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: liquidlounge]
    #21971233 - 07/20/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

sure they do.


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    #21971962 - 07/20/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think I can tell a true story. This is deeply philosophical. Firstly, define "true". I can tell you the same sequence of events in a hundred ways. Which of the stories is the true one? :strokebeard:


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Kickle]
    #21972060 - 07/20/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The most interesting one!



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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21972100 - 07/20/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I saw a grizzly bear a little bit back. I turned and went the other way :smile:


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Kickle]
    #21972117 - 07/20/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I was in Yosemite Park one November and it was snowing lightly. I went into the men's restroom just as a 350 lb black bear was leaving the stall. Fortunately he ignored me. Whew!


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    #21972123 - 07/20/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Bears gotta #2 too :yesnod:


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: Kickle]
    #21972140 - 07/20/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

In the woods. IN THE WOODS!


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Re: Tell a true story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21972163 - 07/20/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What about in wardrobes? Or is that only lions and tigers?


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    #21972344 - 07/20/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I assume you mean it was a 350# Ursid and not a 350# Hairy homosexual black man.

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    #21972979 - 07/20/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Black bears with boundary issues:grrr:

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    #21973886 - 07/21/15 12:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Glad I live in Australia, there are no bears or any giant mammals that will instinctively maul and eat you. Just spiders n stuff that you can walk away from or step on.


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    #21974018 - 07/21/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

And no crazy people with guns that walk around shooting people.


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    #21974053 - 07/21/15 02:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, our police are pretty good too.


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    #21974934 - 07/21/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah as long as you are honest and cooperate with the police they are usually very easy to deal with.


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    #21976367 - 07/21/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

and they don't shoot you for being black.


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    #21976513 - 07/21/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

More whites are shot by cops than blacks in the USA.

Media BS.


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*And they don't shoot you for being 'suspicious'.


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    #21976761 - 07/21/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Per capita?


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    #21976774 - 07/21/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I once got drunk and smashed my car into a parked mustang on the side of a road in a neighborhood. Both of our cars were totaled. I ended up going to jail that night and had $2000 in fines from it


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    #21976809 - 07/21/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9LSHdDUr6As#t=48

"He dindu nuffin'!"

He was about to turn his life around and get his college degree and finally take care of his 13 absentee kids by multiple mothers.

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    #21976830 - 07/21/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I thought I saw a bear in Wyoming, but it was a cow.


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    #21976898 - 07/21/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



It was BigHoof!


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    #21977108 - 07/21/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sometimes the person gets shot for being an idiot, on the other hand there are also numerous cases of unprovoked shootings/attacks from officers in America who fear for their lives or do not know how to handle the situation.




There are cases of corruption and ignorance from police throughout America.
So many people have guns so it's no surprise police are so scared.


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    #21977762 - 07/21/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It was BigHoof!



:lol:
Never seen this pic before.

Americans do enjoy the ole' murder spree suicide.  I wonder if it has anything to do with the extremism which founded the country?  Or is it something else?

Also cops tend to give groups of people a hard time who are committing crimes.  I live in Cleveland, cops are scared for their lives when they go into poor black ghettos.  They get shot at on a regular basis.  It's incredibly dangerous.  If I was getting shot at on a regular basis I would beat the living fuck out of those criminals once I caught up with them.  People only hear one side of the story, the sob story black side.  They forget to mention these same people are waging war on the streets and killing people in record numbers.


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    #21977848 - 07/21/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Party in Detroit!
Highest murder rate of any US city.


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    #21977853 - 07/21/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm sure it's a war zone too.  I feel sorry for those innocent people growing up in that environment:sad:


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