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1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek)
    #21960498 - 07/18/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys I'm here extracting for the first time ever I'm at step 7 of Thick lights ACRB tek and i ready to decant the naphtha into a clean collection jar but my question what do i do with the bottom material after decanting the naphtha layer?


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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: PsychedelicScience]
    #21960510 - 07/18/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Haven't read this tek, is the bottom material the acrb/lye aqueous solution? If so, decant or siphon off
the naptha to a freeze precip dish and add more, fresh naptha to the acrb/lye water solution to do another pull.

Edit: I would not evaporate the naptha as this tek states. Instead, I would freeze precip from the very beginning.
In my own experience, I have found this method to produce a cleaner end product. Whatever floats your boat though will work


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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: natedawgnow] * 1
    #21960535 - 07/18/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks brotherman for the quick response so decant then do a freeze precip and repeat it for multiple pulls?


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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: PsychedelicScience]
    #21960554 - 07/18/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes. It doesn't take long to do pulls. I would save the naptha in an air tight vessel until you finish all the
pulls, then combine and freeze precip in a pyrex dish. Or freeze precip now and just repeat for future pulls. It's your choice.
I've found that you can usually get 3 good pulls if the levels were perfect. You could go for more but I usually don't


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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21960597 - 07/18/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sometimes if the freeze precipitation doesnt work you have to let the naphtha sit in front of a fan of sorts to let it evaporate a little more off before it can freeze precipitate.


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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: BoomerMan420]
    #21960637 - 07/18/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If you're extraction was crap and you didn't pull very much out and used a lot of naptha, this can be true. Although,
I have never personally run into this issue. If you do everything right, you should be able to freeze precip no problem,
and if you're worried about it, just use less naptha in your pulls.


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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: BoomerMan420]
    #21960694 - 07/18/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Sometimes if the freeze precipitation doesnt work you have to let the naphtha sit in front of a fan of sorts to let it evaporate a little more off before it can freeze precipitate.




I agree, it's best to evaporate some of the naptha as to leave it overly saturated before freeze precipitation.

Generally with thicklights tek the naptha will be cloudy and overly saturated as is, and will drop crystals to the bottom and sides of the jar. At which point I pour the naptha into another jar to freeze precipitate, or air-evaporate...scraping the crystals out of the original jar and leaving them out to dry, as soon as the don't smell like naptha they are smokeable, but recrystalization is always a better way to go if you have the time and energy...I eventually combine these with the freezer/air-dry crop in the end..

I prefer to just evaporate all my naptha, slow air evaporation gives big crystals...though most people 're-use their naptha so they prefer to freeze precipitate...

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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21960746 - 07/18/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I like to freeze precip because of this reason as well as I actually prefer smaller crystal clusters to large crystals.

I will say that I never use ACRB but my stuff always comes out pretty saturated and have never needed to evap to initiate precipitation. I don't know if this is common with ACRB or not.

I have experimented a lot over the years with MHRB and have found the perfect ratios and am able to tap my solution out in 3 pulls usually :shrug:
I almost never do more than 3.


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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21960901 - 07/18/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Yes. It doesn't take long to do pulls. I would save the naptha in an air tight vessel until you finish all the
pulls, then combine and freeze precip in a pyrex dish. Or freeze precip now and just repeat for future pulls. It's your choice.
I've found that you can usually get 3 good pulls if the levels were perfect. You could go for more but I usually don't



Yea man the decanting thing took me about 38 mins not too bad but damn it takes some patience and how long do i freeze precipitate for? I'm already seeing crystals forming at the bottom just a few though I'm no rush at all :biggrin:


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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: PsychedelicScience]
    #21960945 - 07/18/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Do at a bare minimum of 12 hours in the freezer. I usually do 24. The longer it takes to get to freezing temps, the bigger your crystals will be, fyi.

Also, I use a siphon to get the naptha out. Much faster than using a pipet or decanting.
A separatory funnel is the next best thing but it would be an expensive piece of lab ware.


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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: PsychedelicScience]
    #21960954 - 07/18/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Yes. It doesn't take long to do pulls. I would save the naptha in an air tight vessel until you finish all the
pulls, then combine and freeze precip in a pyrex dish. Or freeze precip now and just repeat for future pulls. It's your choice.
I've found that you can usually get 3 good pulls if the levels were perfect. You could go for more but I usually don't



Yea man the decanting thing took me about 38 mins not too bad but damn it takes some patience and how long do i freeze precipitate for? I'm already seeing crystals forming at the bottom just a few though I'm no rush at all :biggrin:




24 hours or more, the longer the better, and the colder the better, DMT is soluble in room temperature and hot naptha but completely insoluble in cold and freezing naptha. it also helps if you don't agitate the crystals once the begin to form, if you do this it will only take longer to complete.

If enough DMT falls to the bottom or sticks to the sides you can even transfer the naptha to a new vessel and collect these crystals ahead of time, I always do.

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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21960961 - 07/18/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Whoa, We posted at the exact same time, I didn't mean to repeat your advice.

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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21960982 - 07/18/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Haha great minds, eh? It happens, as long as it's more good advice being thrown out there, I'm not mad:thumbup:


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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21962690 - 07/18/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You are going to want to keep doing pulls on the basic soup until you stop pulling crystal.

I dont pre evaporate before freeze precip using this method. Its a waste of time, I usually see crystals falling out at room temp w this A/B tek
I do a few naptha pulls and put them into one jar, then into the freezer.
Then Ill do a few more pulls and put them into a second jar, and so on. I usually do like 6 pulls.

Aftr freeze precip, pour off the naptha and dry in front of fan.


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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: mushpunx]
    #21962746 - 07/18/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I usually tap my solution out in 3. I almost never do more than 3 as
I've noticed time and time again I get most if not all out in 3 pulls. Then again, I usually run 4 jugs with 100 gs of mhrb each, at a 1:1:15ml ratio. So I'm pulling smaller amounts total per jug but it all gets combined for the freeze precip.
But ya pull till there is nothing left to pull. I have just perfected a method and know there is no point in doing more:shrug:


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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21963326 - 07/19/15 02:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hey I didn't read the tek right and didn't see where it said I needed to put a closed dish in the freezer so I just stuck a big Pyrex dish in there I just covered it now does this degrade quality or could the batches be ruined?


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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: PsychedelicScience]
    #21963384 - 07/19/15 02:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

eh not a big deal. Don't worry about it I've done uncovered batches many  times


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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21964009 - 07/19/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: PsychedelicScience]
    #21964246 - 07/19/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Hey I didn't read the tek right and didn't see where it said I needed to put a closed dish in the freezer so I just stuck a big Pyrex dish in there I just covered it now does this degrade quality or could the batches be ruined?





It can get ice in there, makes it harder to dry a little

I'm gunna post up my own version of this tek because I dont like the way thick light finishes it out.

I dont pre evaporate or wrap a baking dish with saran wrap or anything.
I put my pulls direct into mason jars w lid and then right into the freezer.
After freeze precip I pour off naptha, fan dry and scrape it up.
Then I do a wash because Ive found this tek sometimes lets a little junk in

But ya next time put the pulls into a jar and cap


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Re: 1st DMT extraction need some help(Thick lights tek) [Re: mushpunx]
    #21966176 - 07/19/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I ended up with what seems to be a lot of Dmt goo it was white but while fan drying turned to goo from my first pull. I sampled some and ummm boy I was not ready for that!! Shit lasted a good 10 mins and hours later still feeling it just sort of scared me It feels how mushrooms do but more Alien I'm lost for words really and I barely smoked any at all there's a ton left and it's my first pull what do I do with it put it In a jar?


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