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OfflinePatlal
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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21960037 - 07/18/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Kirk Cameron and friends say it is magic








W0ow this guy is a fucking idiot


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: psi]
    #21960038 - 07/18/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I learned Mc Donalds used chemicals in their meat.




Plus the meat itself and all the other ingredients are made up of chemicals. Confusingly though neither of the options are from McDonalds.






lol...

tells us any single food product including organic foods that arent loaded with
chemicals, you cant and why is that? because they're made from chemicals, you
even season your food with chemicals, without chemicals you will die, suppose
you eliminate your intake of oxidane or hydroxic acid




Wow this never occurred to me, it's not like that was the exact point I was making.




shut your mouth, it's just the hydroxic acid talking


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21960054 - 07/18/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:smirk:


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: Patlal]
    #21960056 - 07/18/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Vitamin C occurs naturally in nature, but we have manages to synthesize the exact same molecule in a lab. Does that meanthat if we spray Vitamin C to foods that don't  produce it naturally that it suddenly becomes unhealthy because a chemical has been added? The answer is no. It's be enhanced

Same for food colouring. Oranges produce strong orange looking pigment under sun light. Naturally of course. Now once we extract the molecule that makes it orange and synthetize it in a lab, is it less natural? If Kraft dinner uses that molecule to make it's cheese bright orange, is that suddenly unhealthy for you? Well, I guess it's as unhealthy as eating it from an orange...


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: Patlal]
    #21960066 - 07/18/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Kirk Cameron and friends say it is magic








W0ow this guy is a fucking idiot




That dude isn't even peeling the banana properly.
Even monkeys know to peel from the opposite side of the stem...


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: Patlal]
    #21960074 - 07/18/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Kirk Cameron and friends say it is magic








W0ow this guy is a fucking idiot






if you study a well made penis you'll see that it fits perfectly in the hand and
the maker of the penis made it with a non slip surface, it curves pleasingly to
the mouth, while it wasnt made with a tab for opening it seems the maker of the
penis did want the contents to squirt you in the face


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: Acaterpillar] * 1
    #21960109 - 07/18/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What is funny about the banana video is that God didn't create that example banana, man did through selective breeding. I doubt the original land-race ancestors to the modern banana were so "perfectly designed for the human hand" etc.


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
    #21960111 - 07/18/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Mc Donalds messed up in making me a deluxe q. pounder recent. Before this, another time they mixed up me order. So this is why I no longer like Mc D.

Wendy's seems to have a fresh taste. A sure plus!


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: Lived_1978-2043]
    #21960133 - 07/18/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Mc Donalds messed up in making me a deluxe q. pounder recent. Before this, another time they mixed up me order. So this is why I no longer like Mc D.

Wendy's seems to have a fresh taste. A sure plus!




Very logical reasoning. Sounds like you're on the path to a healthier you. :thumbup:


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #21960237 - 07/18/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Because Super Size Me. Oh wait, that's McDonald's. This is completely untested territory.


I think they would probably both live long fullfilling lives as long as they didn't go nuts with the fountain drinks and catch diabeetus. I'd pick Wendy's though, BK tends to be pretty gross.





Morgan Spurlock is a hack urinalist, he made a mockumentary in which he set
rules that required him to gorge himself, he also made it a point to mislead
people which if you look, somehow 20 year old cheese burgers started popping
up, now who the fuck hangs onto a fast food burger for years?

here's one that didnt go with extra large with every meal

http://www.today.com/health/man-loses-56-pounds-after-eating-only-mcdonalds-six-months-2D79329158

here's another

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/this-guy-lost-100-pounds-eating-mcdonalds-and-became-a-1497812278


while most wont believe it, eating fast food is no less healthy than a typical
american meal, the south is known for unhealthy foods, especially the fried
foods. McDonalds fries dont retain nearly as much oil as the fries you cook at
home and the brugers are no different. there's plenty of people that eat
McDonalds or other fast foods every single day, some have done it for decades


the secret for not getting fat or being unhealthy on a fast food diet...

"get off your lazy ass" -McDonalds CEO Don Thompson (paraphrased)




Truth is, it is really relative. The cheese in fast food burgers is just average cheese. The meat they use is just lower quality meat. I believe they add some preservatives to thier bread and such. Mayo has some deadly seed-oils. So I would say that a whole-foods "health- nut" would see mcdinalds as lesser quality overall for those reasons. The food is generally much lower than the food we ate about 100 years ago (grassfed beef, full-fat unprocessed dairy, and whole grain sprouted bread etc.) But relative to the standard american diet, prisoner has a pretty good point there. It isn't much worse than stndard american food


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21960283 - 07/18/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Kirk Cameron and friends say it is magic








W0ow this guy is a fucking idiot






if you study a well made penis you'll see that it fits perfectly in the hand and
the maker of the penis made it with a non slip surface, it curves pleasingly to
the mouth, while it wasnt made with a tab for opening it seems the maker of the
penis did want the contents to squirt you in the face







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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: Salomon]
    #21960293 - 07/18/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Kirk Cameron and friends say it is magic








W0ow this guy is a fucking idiot






if you study a well made penis you'll see that it fits perfectly in the hand and
the maker of the penis made it with a non slip surface, it curves pleasingly to
the mouth, while it wasnt made with a tab for opening it seems the maker of the
penis did want the contents to squirt you in the face










Life is hard man...


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21960300 - 07/18/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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why are you under the assumption that this would cause health problems




Is there really any question that eating fucking cheeseburgers every day is bad for you?



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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: Ran-D]
    #21960342 - 07/18/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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why are you under the assumption that this would cause health problems




Is there really any question that eating fucking cheeseburgers every day is bad for you?





The issue here is a number of things. First off, saturated fat isn't really as bad as people say it is. That whole "thing" has been disproven

Also, IMO I think that fast food isn't too many bars down from the Standard American Diet


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: topdog82]
    #21960364 - 07/18/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not even saying fast food. You could make organic grass-fed burgers in your kitchen all day every day and it would still be bad for you after a while. Nobody should eat that much beef, unless they like gout.


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: Ran-D]
    #21960372 - 07/18/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm not even saying fast food. You could make organic grass-fed burgers in your kitchen all day every day and it would still be bad for you after a while. Nobody should eat that much beef, unless they like gout.



There are quite a lot of soceities that have lived off lard, red meat and blubber. I think some of it could come down to genetics

I am asian, so I personally eat less meat as I feel better and l"lighter" that way. But for some induviduals, it is perfectly doable


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: topdog82]
    #21960409 - 07/18/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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There are quite a lot of soceities that have lived off lard, red meat and blubber. I think some of it could come down to genetics





Yea, Eskimos eating seal blubber isn't quite the same thing. And genetics definitely do play a role.


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: topdog82]
    #21960466 - 07/18/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i  staright up need dat protien, fat and calorie combination sometimes, it m akes me feel so much better, like a big ol fast food burger  or 4 with fries, the salt, would be better if mineral salts, but whatever, still help my brain to function better.

like after a long hard day biking and running through the woods, sweating my head into my headband and using up all the elements in my body, just to refresh tha basics, boom wendys, mc'd's, bk, whatever, all salty farty calorie  goodness.

when i cook burgers at home, i end up with like very little fat, basically all protiens. subsituted with bacon and cheese and what not.


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: Ran-D]
    #21960642 - 07/18/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i  staright up need dat protien, fat and calorie combination sometimes, it m akes me feel so much better, like a big ol fast food burger  or 4 with fries, the salt, would be better if mineral salts, but whatever, still help my brain to function better.

like after a long hard day biking and running through the woods, sweating my head into my headband and using up all the elements in my body, just to refresh tha basics, boom wendys, mc'd's, bk, whatever, all salty farty calorie  goodness.

when i cook burgers at home, i end up with like very little fat, basically all protiens. subsituted with bacon and cheese and what not.



I am trying being vegan at the moment. just trying diff things out

but what I did when I ate meat was grassbef beef burger cooked in my own house on sprouted grain bread, grass fed cheese. The burger was cooked in grass fed butter and olive oil, and seasoned with pink himilayan salt and turmeric. I sometimes add bacon into the mix or even double stack it with another piece of bread and patty,with some steamed veggies on the side

But I feel this. a heavy, fatty, salty meal really hits the spot sometimes
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There are quite a lot of soceities that have lived off lard, red meat and blubber. I think some of it could come down to genetics





Yea, Eskimos eating seal blubber isn't quite the same thing. And genetics definitely do play a role.



Exactly. I am just trying to point out the "this food is bad" paradigm isnt a logically consistent one. As long as you aren't eating processed foods, you are usually fine. Veggies dont really hurt either. People on the opposite end of the spectrum think "Societies lived off blubber and red meat. Therefore I will follow a paleo diet of only lard, butter and steak". I figure all that fat would be hard for you to digest


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Re: If 2 equally healthy people both went on a fast food burger diet... [Re: Matt87]
    #21960654 - 07/18/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So you're dieting huh?




I'm aiming to not eat much in fatty foods.

I'm not fat nor skinny in case U wonder. I do 2 exercises: Crunches and walking.



Fat is good for you. The healthiest comes from salmon and nuts.

Which one would be less likely to put me in the hospital is a terrible strategy for fueling your body.




fat = extra energy, correct? this can be good, but not too much.

too much sugar + too much fat = dio-beat-tease


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