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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21964570 - 07/19/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That means "transgender" is a slur as well


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21964586 - 07/19/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

they're all labels and someone is bound to find them offensive


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21964588 - 07/19/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
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BlindSophist said:
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Do you think a trans woman (born with male biological sex but transitioned to woman as an adult ) should be allowed to fight against non- trans women in the UFC/MMA?




Yes. Apparently the UFC agrees with me on this one, too.

Also, if you'd like to avoid offense, the proper term for "non trans women" is "cis women". I know you prefer to use more words than fewer, but try to make an exception for this in the future.




Cool.

http://www.libertynewsnow.com/transgender-female-mma-fighter-brutally-injures-female-opponent/article1545






rousey must be a trans woman as well





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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21964623 - 07/19/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
they're all labels and someone is bound to find them offensive




The difference is that most cis people do not find cis offensive. Also cis people don't typically get attacked by lynch mobs shouting "cissy"


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21964642 - 07/19/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I just called my girl a cis-woman and she got pretty offended. She said the correct term for a non-trans woman is just woman.





the very reason I get offended by the term 'cis'





When I said this, I actually called her cis-wife. She thought I was referring to sister-wife, as in FLDS culture. Regardless, I always hear of a woman referred to as a woman, not a cis-woman.

BS, I was just poking fun. I have nothing against trans-gender people or trans-women. If the hormone therapy and SRS helps you psychologically, then I am fully supportive.


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21964713 - 07/19/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
they're all labels and someone is bound to find them offensive




The difference is that most cis people do not find cis offensive. Also cis people don't typically get attacked by lynch mobs shouting "cissy"






so now you speak for all non transgendered people? do most gay people also
identify as being the sex that they are or do you believe they really identify
as the opposite sex? what of the zoophiles, I mean they dont identify as animals
while some people may identify as animals but have no attraction to animals,
wouldnt that make them trans species and is that any different than the trans
racial claims you've broken out the noose for

we pick and choose the words we decide are going to be offensive based on whom
we're talking to, we choose which words are going to hold power over us and
that's why we decide to allow them to be hurtful words because when we can say
"this offends me" we then have some control over that person that has been
showing control over us, but in doing so, we dont take control from them, we
simply give them more control, more power over us. this is no different than the
word 'nigga' an the word it was derived from in the black community, are they
really offended by it, no, if they were they wouldnt be throwing it around and
claiming it as 'a term of endearment' but they second a white man says it it's
suddenly offensive as fuck

why do you insist on labeling yourself and others, hese labels do nothing but
seaparate you from the rest of us, are you a woman or a trans woman, make a
fucking choice already and stop letting people who shouldnt have any power over
you reside in your head


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21964728 - 07/19/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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If you keep insisting on saying "tranny" while refusing to punish its use even though it is a slur which is deeply offensive to trans people, I should get to call you a cissy. It's only fair.



Do you prefer transexual American?


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21964764 - 07/19/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sigh


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21964765 - 07/19/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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BlindSophist said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
they're all labels and someone is bound to find them offensive




The difference is that most cis people do not find cis offensive. Also cis people don't typically get attacked by lynch mobs shouting "cissy"



Most cis people never heard of the fucking word.  It is a new creation.  Why not meta people?


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #21964777 - 07/19/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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BS, I was just poking fun. I have nothing against trans-gender people or trans-women. If the hormone therapy and SRS helps you psychologically, then I am fully supportive.




I've been talking with a girl in thailand for several months, her cousin is a
'ladyboy', the first photo I saw of the cousin was in a men's suit and she
looked almost like a wax statue because she was still wearing make up but it
wasnt effeminate. I made the comment on it and she told me that her cousin was
a ladyboy, she asked me my thoughts about it to which I responded "she was born
in the wrong body", the same answer that her father gave her. as I see it, if she
is a woman then she's a woman, I see it the same with BS and rose and any other
woman making that transition to the correct body


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21968272 - 07/20/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Cis in terms of gender is a fairly recently coined word and it is not well known.

Cisgender is in the OED now though, and it means what Soph said it means.

Sorry you feel so offended, Pris. I thought you were tougher than that.


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Rose]
    #21968334 - 07/20/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

maybe you missed the part where I said we all pick and choose what we
decide to be offended by, no different than the term tranny which can
also be found in dictionaries. lots of pejoratives can be found in
dictionaries

the question still stands, if others dont want to be labeled then why label others


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21968375 - 07/20/15 12:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am sure you could find better things to be offended by.

I don't particularly like being called a tranny ever since I got my ass beat for being one, according to the assailant... but whateves... if you wish to throw that out just to make your "cis" is SO offensive point, bully for you.


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Rose]
    #21968610 - 07/20/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

still using labels


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21968642 - 07/20/15 01:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Damn words and their fucking labeling ability. Especially nouns and adjectives... fuck them!!!


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Rose] * 1
    #21968677 - 07/20/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's almost as if language itself is nothing but a complex system of labels


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21968720 - 07/20/15 01:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Good to see you guys!

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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Rose] * 1
    #21968726 - 07/20/15 01:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Good to have you back. :hug:


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Rose] * 2
    #21968730 - 07/20/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

it's crazy how when you're name is mentioned you just show up after day, many many days of not being around

it's like you're a psycho or something


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Re: This chick is a man [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21968736 - 07/20/15 01:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think it's my fault


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