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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: thewanderer25]
#21960352 - 07/18/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: thewanderer25]
#21960355 - 07/18/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: You wasted $20.
Also, why are you only making $20 for 3 hours of work?
I make roughly $6.50 an hour after taxes.
6.50 dollars?? wtf, thats like 3 quid here!! i was on £7 (10.90 dollars) in my old deadbeat retail job!
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: Ran-D]
#21960365 - 07/18/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: Ok, what about the large population of homeless people that prefer to be homeless? Believe it or not some of them would rather ride around on their bikes all day doing drugs than having to worry about mortgages and car payments. Who can blame them? Nobody wants to be in the fucking rat race. If they want to collect cans and smoke crack then go right ahead, different strokes for different folks. I'm not going to feel sorry for them and give them money that I work for though.
Sure, some people need help and that's cool. But lots of them will lie and pretend to appreciate your help when in reality they view your kindness as weakness and they are taking advantage of it. I have dealt with and helped enough people in the past to realize this.
A disproportionate amount of homeless people are veterans or sufferers of mental illness, commonly schizophrenia. They're people, they differ from individual to individual, and while some may choose to continue the lifestyle because they have gotten acclimated to it, so many people are susceptible to slipping through the cracks and they don't have a safety net to pull them back or the necessary capabilities to go through the process of figuring out what kind of aid they can get from the government.
I had a homeless dude in my old neighborhood named chubz(he was built like a beanpole) who was very friendly and who my roommates and I paid to help tune up our bikes. If he saw some shady shit or knew that the person who stole my roommates bike lived down the street, he'd let us know. good guy.
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: daz01]
#21960375 - 07/18/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The united states is filled with greedy capitalists. Im guessing your from europe their chill down their free healthcare and everything.
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: thewanderer25]
#21960383 - 07/18/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just buy them a sandwich or a coffee or give food or warm gloves or whatever they need rather then money
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: pirate-blues]
#21960390 - 07/18/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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pirate-blues said: A disproportionate amount of homeless people are veterans or sufferers of mental illness, commonly schizophrenia.
Yea that's cool I've read stuff on websites too.
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: Ran-D]
#21960428 - 07/18/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've lived in houses where I'd walk out every wednesday morning and there'd be a dozen homeless men laying on and around my stoop waiting for the church across the street to open up so they could get meals. I've walked past homeless who were laying dead and shot to death in subway concourses(cops were already there, they couldn't shut down the entire subway though so people had to walk past). I've seen elderly people on the streets who had obviously had dementia and could not retain memories, even shorter-term stuff.
I haven't just read about this stuff, I've seen it.
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: thewanderer25]
#21960464 - 07/18/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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thewanderer25 said: The united states is filled with greedy capitalists. Im guessing your from europe their chill down their free healthcare and everything.
no, I'm most definitely American. And dude, I'd be totally cool with free healthcare, especially given the fact that the american government spends more per capita on healthcare than Canada or the UK. And especially because even if you have insurance, you could find yourself bankrupted by illness. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/22/1240522/-Health-care-in-America-is-funded-by-the-government-to-a-greater-extent-than-in-Canada
let me guess, you haven't had to go without insurance due to extenuating situations - like the fact that many people who work in retail are only hired part time(exception is the managers) and therefore do not qualify for benefits?
And no, I'm not talking about the atrocity that is obama care/the affordable care act.
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: Matt87]
#21960473 - 07/18/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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shLong said: I make approximately $9-9.25 an hour after taxes 
Also, if I had the means, I'd help someone who was sick like that.
Well, we can't all be smart with our dough. Lucky her, there's a sucker born every minute.
Lucky who? And who are you saying is smart with their dough?
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: pirate-blues]
#21960477 - 07/18/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ya I don't mean the people of america just the ones in charge. I love the people its the politicians and policies that piss me off.
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: Ran-D]
#21960490 - 07/18/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ran-D said:
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pirate-blues said: A disproportionate amount of homeless people are veterans or sufferers of mental illness, commonly schizophrenia.
Yea that's cool I've read stuff on websites too.
Not trying to be a dick, but nobody is saying you need to give up your money to them. If you don't wanna, cool, but I wouldn't be looking down your nose at the folks who do give to them.
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: shLong]
#21960495 - 07/18/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I forgot we're not allowed to disagree with people on the Shroomery, sorry.
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: Ran-D]
#21960551 - 07/18/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: I forgot we're not allowed to disagree with people on the Shroomery, sorry.
I am more than willing to agree to disagree. I was correcting you on your assumption that no actual life experience has factored into my stance on this. Have you lived in areas with high homeless populations and high crime rate? It's not pleasant by any means, but when you interact with these people on the daily, you start realizing that they're human and they vary just as much as anyone else. There are a lot of shady assholes on the street, but most are people who would give anything for a job that could pay for housing(And no, not all homeless are unemployed, it's not uncommon for them to work minimum wage jobs, by a cheap gym membership to shower, and still live on the street), a huge portion are people who are simply not able to take care of themselves due to serious trauma and resulting ptsd, and mental illness of some kind.
I've been robbed at gun point in an area that was blocks from an ivy league university that still suffered some significant issues with crime, and have been a bystander to numerous violent crimes, two of which resulted to fatalities via gunshot wound(not the same instance as the dead homeless dude in subway, that was just the aftermath of another incident). I cannot begin to imagine what some of these people experience or see, I can tell you as a result of my own experiences, it can emotionally wreck you even further.
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: pirate-blues]
#21960575 - 07/18/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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PB didn't you say you lived in PA?
You should move if you're still there, I went to Philly once and it seemed to be pretty full of crazy retards. You shouldn't be subjected to a land where you walk outside and have to brush the dead hobos off your lawn before you water the flowers in the morning.
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: Sheekle] 1
#21960588 - 07/18/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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PA blows.
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: PLURAL]
#21960593 - 07/18/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Waiting for Obama to pass the No Junkie Left Behind Act.
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: PLURAL]
#21960605 - 07/18/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah, philly. philly is totally full of crazy retards, but I really dig it. There is a culture here that is very present and wonderful, the food, the music scene, the hustle and bustle. It's gritty, but it is the second largest city on the east coast, and I think that it's kind of beautiful in it's own retarded way. It's really come up in the last ten years, and it does have a lot to offer.
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Treant said: PA blows.
nah, only like 70% of it blows. Eastern pa, particular central/southeastern pa is really nice and usually quite wealthy. Pittsburgh is cooler than you'd think. The rest of it is filled with hillbillies, depressing coal mining towns, and the occasional weird artsy enclave of a town(usually any small town with a college in it is quite nice) smack dab in the middle of pennsyltucky.
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: Adden]
#21960618 - 07/18/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I must say though, I worked with a guy (he didn't last long) who would show up to work sick more often than not. Since he was in training and under my wing, my pay relied on our performance for jobs. I'd give him enough oxy 30's to get through 8 hours, but it was all for like *maybe* 10 days until he got arrested for violating probation with a firearm, drugs and failed piss test. There's no saving some people. I'd never give a heroin addict money, though.
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: pirate-blues]
#21960620 - 07/18/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah PA rocks, especially philly. Sucks for those that can't handle it. You ready for the pope? The whole world meeting of families thing is throwing a giant monkey wrench into things. Gonna be a pain in the ass that week.
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Re: Is It Wrong To Give Junkies Money? [Re: pirate-blues] 1
#21960630 - 07/18/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, NW PA is where I'm getting my data from.
I live like 5 minutes away from PA, it's not awesome here, but as soon I go over that border shit seems to go downhill for some reason.
Also, your gas and cigarette prices are garbage.
Driving/parking in Philly sucks, that's my main complaint with Philly...
Y U guys no have driveways?
Got 50 cars parked on the side of a road with a 60 degree incline, just begging for something bad to happen.
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